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NY Post: Pro-mosque Mike KOs compromise (StopThe911mosque.com responds)
StopThe911mosque ^ | August 25, 2010 | Editors

Posted on 08/25/2010 7:09:56 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg gave remarks last night at an Iftar dinner he hosted at Gracie Mansion, with Daisy Khan, wife of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, and Ground Zero mosque developer Sharif el-Gamal in attendance. In part, Bloomberg said this:

"If we say that a mosque and community center should not be built near the perimeter of the World Trade Center site ... we would undercut the values and principles that so many heroes died protecting. We would send a signal around the world that Muslim-Americans may be equal in the eyes of the law, but separate in the eyes of their countrymen. And we would hand a valuable propaganda tool to terrorist recruiters who spread the fallacy that America is at war with Islam."

Imam Rauf, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the rest of the Islamists advocate for discrimination; they all work to impose sharia law here is America. We should send a couple of signals. First, America will not tolerate a mosque and "cultural center" being built overlooking where like-minded Muslims slaughtered 2,752 people. And we will never incorporate discriminatory sharia law into our rule of law.

Just for the record: the heroes of 9/11 died saving lives, not "values and principles." In addition, it was Mayor Bloomberg who separated Muslims from Americans by calling them "Muslim-Americans." Have you ever heard anyone call Baptists "Baptist-Americans" or Episcopalians "Episcopalian-Americans?"


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: 911; bloomberg; gamal; groundzero; islam; khan; mosque; obama; rauf; wot

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1 posted on 08/25/2010 7:10:00 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim
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To: Sergeant Tim

Bubba redux. Keep on attacking us we’ll never respond.


2 posted on 08/25/2010 7:11:34 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Here’s my question for Mayor Bloomberg. If the mosque is built, will you allow them to use salt on their potluck dishes?


3 posted on 08/25/2010 7:11:50 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. -- Texas Eagle)
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To: sneakers; SoCalPol; sofaman; sofas dad; soloNYer; sono; Sparko; Springman; SRJeff; StarFan; ...

Ping!


4 posted on 08/25/2010 7:11:57 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

SOB is dumber than a box of old happy meal toys...


5 posted on 08/25/2010 7:14:38 AM PDT by dps.inspect (uttox)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Oh, how patriotic can one be? BARF YSOB


6 posted on 08/25/2010 7:14:45 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Sergeant Tim

What a moron.


7 posted on 08/25/2010 7:16:12 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (People tend to make better decisions when held to the ramifications of those decisions)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Daisy Khan cohosted an “iftar” dinner with a Jew?
Will she be back for Yom Kippur?


8 posted on 08/25/2010 7:16:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

“New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg gave remarks last night at an Iftar dinner he hosted at Gracie Mansion”

And his knees were knocking . . . how’s it feel to “host” people who’s ultimate aim is to destroy you, Mayor Bloomin’ Idiot?

We must not allow our laws and principles be used against us. This article makes a good point: Sharia law is discriminatory, and this must be publicly emphasized over and over.


9 posted on 08/25/2010 7:16:51 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: Sergeant Tim
Did that idiot make his money or did he inherit it?

He's a tool.

10 posted on 08/25/2010 7:18:12 AM PDT by McGavin999 (I'm sorry, your race card is overdrawn and no further charges can be accepted)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Oh I see... Mikey wants to build the mosque because he just loves America so darn much!


11 posted on 08/25/2010 7:19:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sergeant Tim

Classes, classes, classes.......it’s all about classes.

These people are just so intent on grouping everyone into classes.....Muslim-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Asian-Americans.....and then the eeeeeeeeeeeevil WASPs!

We are not questioning the right for people to worship; all we’re saying is don’t build the mosque at Ground Zero!

I mean, these people say we need to be “tolerant” towards Muslims.......well, when they allow us to build churches in Mecca, we’ll get back to them!


12 posted on 08/25/2010 7:19:28 AM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN 2012! AMERICA WILL SHINE AGAIN!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Not a one of the victims of 9/11, or the thousands of soldiers who have died in its aftermath, have died to defend the slaughter of innocent Americans by muslime fanatics, or to protect their right to build sanctuaries where such slaughters can be planned.

This is not about religion. It is about embracing our enemies while they reach for the dagger they will use to cut our throats.

STOP THE HOUSE OF HATE!


13 posted on 08/25/2010 7:20:26 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Sergeant Tim
I'm glad to see a web site devoted to this issue, but keep in mind Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs has been the go to place for the latest on Islam's war against civilization.
14 posted on 08/25/2010 7:20:51 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Sergeant Tim

We can honor Ground Zero best by opposing this Victory Mosque/Headquarters/Recruitment Center being built ANYWHERE in New York, not just Ground Zero-—for me 6 or 60 blocks away amounts possibly to an even bigger “win” for Rauf and his team. They can then publicly lick their wounds while being seen as moderates willing to compromise. THey are anything BUT moderates, though they might be willing to play the part of moderates to get what they want.
The biggest NEW NEWS right now, is that , lacking any real details about Rauf’s prospective sources of funding (the biggest talking point heretofore), FOX news is now after his developer El-Gamal, following him everywhere and trying to get information as to where this ex-waiter got so much money to make a big splash into the world of New York Real Estate. THe FOX news report exposed a lot, and this guy Gamal, looks like TOny Reszko on super-steroids, and with an
Islamic Stealth-Jihad ambition. Keep tabs on that! THAT is going to be the big story; exposing Gamal, and ALSO his possible connections to Hollywood Celebs, who he hobnobbed with as a waiter, could bring EVERYTHING crashing down.


15 posted on 08/25/2010 7:26:38 AM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Every election is like an advance auction sale of stolen goods"--H.L.Mencken)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Muslims always change the name of the cities they capture. I wonder what the Islamofascist have in mind for NYC.


16 posted on 08/25/2010 7:30:23 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: McGavin999

He made it himself. He is far from a stupid man. He’s just wrong on too many issues, this one in particular.


17 posted on 08/25/2010 7:38:47 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Sergeant Tim

Bloomberg reminds me of the Jews who helped the Nazis round up other Jews for the railway cars in the hope they would be left alone.


18 posted on 08/25/2010 7:39:22 AM PDT by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: supremedoctrine

Then we completely agree.


19 posted on 08/25/2010 7:42:04 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: EDINVA

Bloomb seems to be of the opinion that 9/11 was an attack on New York City. There are enough Americans already who despise everything that New York City stands for without its mayor adding fuel to the fire.


20 posted on 08/25/2010 7:53:51 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Melchior

There are a lot of good people in NYC; I am related to a few of them and friends with lots of them.


21 posted on 08/25/2010 7:57:38 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim (In the War on Terror, there is no place to run from here.)
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To: Sergeant Tim

Ground 0


22 posted on 08/25/2010 8:12:03 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Sergeant Tim

They own 45-47 and have the lease from con ed till 2071,right ? and this lease will be honored by con ed and they will reappraise the property and sell it.

Does anyone think it’s remotely possible that they’ve already established their mosque ?
don’t mean to start rumours but why would they be holding on to empty unused square footage ?
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According to the article, “Sharif El-Gamal, the head of Soho Properties, first came forward in 2006 seeking to buy the empty building at 45-47 Park Place, said Melvin Pomerantz, whose family owned the property.

Pomerantz said El-Gamal eventually raised $4.8 million cash for 45-47 Park Place. El- Gamal paid an extra $700,000 to take over the lease with Con Ed for the building next door. The lease expires in 2071.”

http://batteryparkcity.com/news/soho-properties-sharif-el-gamal-park51-mosque-con-edison/

Con Ed said El-Gamal told the utility in February that he wanted to exercise the purchase option in his $33,000- a-year lease for the former substation.

http://weaselzippers.us/2010/08/08/taqiyya-ground-zero-mosque-developers-only-own-half-the-site/

Doesn’t look good and what are they doing with this property right now and since 2006 ?


23 posted on 08/25/2010 8:15:41 AM PDT by catroina54
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To: Sergeant Tim
It is hard to figure how Bloomberg can say this and bear down on it. It a load of pure crap.

This is not the issue and never was the issue. He is diverting on to this issue, as are many, President, and Imam/s etc. It has NOTHING to do with freedom of religion. Say NO! to sharia law. NEVER Sharia.

Notice! do not fall for this absurd excuse for making this issue be about religious FREEDOM.

It is the Islamic style/habit to build/obliterate right on top of other religion's sites; and then claiming the site had always been theirs.

24 posted on 08/25/2010 8:20:45 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Melchior

“Bloomb seems to be of the opinion that 9/11 was an attack on New York City.”

It was an attack on NYC insofar as NYC has long been the financial capital of the US (and at least formerly the world). 9/11 was a brilliantly coordinated attack on the US. The most visible, of course, was the WTC. They used OUR technology (planes) to attack OUR targets. Bloomie seems to forget the Pentagon was also hit, tho not so dramatically captured on film. We will never know for sure the target of FLt #93.

In any case, tho born in MA, Bloomie is a typically chauvinistic NYer, who truly believes the world ends at the Hudson River. Or at least anything IMPORTANT in the world.
(that said as a 5th generation born NYer)


25 posted on 08/25/2010 8:41:07 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Sergeant Tim

they already have their mosque at 45-47—

“”The following is what I understand the building to be about.... The existing building at 45-47 Park Place in New York City’s Lower Manhattan district is the building causing all the commotion these days. It is located a few blocks from Ground Zero and dates back to the late 1850s. A Muslim outreach group the Cordoba Initiative, has been using it for Friday prayers since late last year. The space has been open Monday through Friday between noon and 10 p.m., according to a source familiar with the project. According to the Park 51 website, the facility “will be dedicated to pluralism, service, arts and culture, education and empowerment, appreciation for our city and respect for our planet. Park51 will join New York to the world, offering a welcoming community center with multiple points of entry.”””

http://www.measuredreasons.com/BlogPF%20Ground%20Zero.html
under July23


26 posted on 08/25/2010 11:23:18 PM PDT by catroina54
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To: geologist
The New York Times has a charming little story today about Little Syria having been near Ground Zero. "No one has a definitive claim on any part of town."

Sure, that's what the mosque opponents have been claiming: non-Muslims have a definitive claim on that part of town. They will say anything, no matter how feebleminded, to bolster the lazy liberal sentiments of those who are still paying good money for their desperate propaganda sheet.

27 posted on 08/25/2010 11:45:39 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand; All
A few years ago, the realization came clear to me that just as amorous men of all ages, tell winsome females what they want to hear ... all for the satisfaction of the moment, when they do not actually mean it: likewise our politicians do the same: tell us what they know we want to hear without any intention of keeping their word. SAD!

Again and again people will believe what it is we want to be told. We are stupidly trusting of what it is politicians say, promise, and declare to be truth. NOT SO. Once in office they rarely hold to any of their campaign promises. Corruption, or being cooped becomes standard Mo for most of them. A SAD state of affairs. Political Correctness has made us practically defenseless. Our youth have no idea of America's history, founding, principles, greatness or Constitution. The lawyers have undermined it step by step and incrementally, until it is barely recognizable.

I despair of our current conditions. If we do not oust every incumbent running in this next election, we are lost indeed.
We have fallen too far. As Thomas Sowell stated in his new book, "The Dismantling of America". We will be past reclaiming our power and our Constitution, our rule of law, and our purpose of liberty, freedom, private property, prosperity, traveling freely, and practicing our choice of profession, etc. We will be totally under the thumb of the massive government, bankrupting us at this moment. The elite and the enslaved. Which are you?

Father God, help us in our day, forgive us Father for turning our face away from You, and doing whatever we pleased. Nothing is impossible for You, We repent and seek mercy, in Jesus name, amen.

28 posted on 08/27/2010 8:21:21 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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