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Natural Born Citizen Discussions in the Late 1800's
http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/natural-born-citizen-discussions-in-th e-late-1800s/#more-4992 ^ | October 12, 2010 | Bridgette

Posted on 10/12/2010 10:42:48 AM PDT by Bridgetteb

“Looking Back at History” Natural Born Citizen Discussions in the Late 1800′s

The definition of Natural Born Citizen and the presidential eligibility issue were researched in the late 1800's. Multiple newspaper articles are presented to show how constitutionalists and scholars in the 19th century addressed the issues by responding to citizen's questions. Copies of articles are shown.

The first article below asks: If a person with American parents is born in a foreign country would he be eligible to the presidency? Note the answer states “parents” not the singular word “parent.”

May 27, 1888 Is a Citizen Born Abroad Eligible to Be President?

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TOPICS: History; Politics
KEYWORDS: aliens; articleii; birthcertificate; certifigate; citizen; eligibility; naturalborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamatruthfile
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1 posted on 10/12/2010 10:42:56 AM PDT by Bridgetteb
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To: Bridgetteb

Linky no worky


2 posted on 10/12/2010 10:48:46 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
New Link
3 posted on 10/12/2010 11:02:47 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: Bridgetteb

I was born in Germany on a USAF base of US parents. I believe I am eligible. More so than Obama.


4 posted on 10/12/2010 11:20:20 AM PDT by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: Bridgetteb

The mothers of the President and First Lady in the new NBC show, “The Event”, are Cuban immigrants. ;0)


5 posted on 10/12/2010 11:41:55 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: seemoAR

If the fictitious Cuban exile mother was naturalized at the time of the fictitious President’s birth, there is no problem. If she wasn’t, then there is.


6 posted on 10/12/2010 11:56:20 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: rfreedom4u; Bridgette

Does this mean that those born in the US by C-section are not eligible?


7 posted on 10/12/2010 11:56:46 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: rfreedom4u

Children of citizens ,be they born overseas( including )SHALL BE considered NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. Yes technically you are a Natural born citizen and can be President . obama was not born to American parents( both ) therefore he is not eligible to be President.


8 posted on 10/12/2010 12:32:49 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: GreyFriar

as long as their name is not MacBeth...


9 posted on 10/12/2010 12:37:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pennyfarmer

Penny, Thanks for adding a correct link!

I don’t know why those two links don’t work. They do get to the blog, and if one clicks on home, the article will be there.


10 posted on 10/12/2010 12:38:25 PM PDT by Bridgetteb
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To: Bridgetteb; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


11 posted on 10/12/2010 12:40:11 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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Ping.................

Could be interesting to compare nowadays.


12 posted on 10/12/2010 12:56:53 PM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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Ping...........

Workable links in #3.

Sorry about repeating the ping.


13 posted on 10/12/2010 12:59:16 PM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: GreyFriar

Depends on if it was a concert or a monster truck event.


14 posted on 10/12/2010 1:26:58 PM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: omegadawn

What are you quoting? If it’s a law and not the Constitution, it does not apply. This is a good article to demonstrate what scholars thought in the 1800s. Gives an idea what the terms meant back then, not now, when people try to reinterpret the plain words of the Constitution. The INTENT of the Founders is what matters. And the reason WHY they believed it crucial that no president have divided loyalties. Thus, born on US soil to US citizen parentS.


15 posted on 10/12/2010 1:31:04 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Bridgetteb

Interesting discussions. The gray border case is that of a child born abroad to citizen parent(s). The case of child born in the US where one parent is a non-citizen is not a gray border case, it is in the area of settled cases. Such a child may become a citizen by law, but is NOT a natural born citizen.

Thus Obama is ineligible under the Law and there is no remedy for his case.

A Constitutional Amendment to change the requirements for Office would be the only remedy, and that is is an extremely unlikely event.

The editors eventually themselves settled on the more restrictive case that would exclude John McCain, or any other child of citizen Americans posted abroad in the service of their country. The editors decided that only those born in the US to citizen parents would be natural born citizens, although they noted other experts disputed that situation.


16 posted on 10/12/2010 1:39:31 PM PDT by bvw
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It does work when you click on “We The People” box!!!


17 posted on 10/12/2010 1:44:27 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: Bridgetteb

That editorial discussion over the years 1880 through 1901 also corresponded to a mighty surge in immigration from the poorer areas of Europe, and the editorial stance must be taken as influenced by reactions to that surge.

See http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAEdecades.htm


18 posted on 10/12/2010 1:45:24 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Bridgetteb

From a blogger:

http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2010/01/obamas-make-believe-life.html


19 posted on 10/12/2010 1:47:57 PM PDT by danamco (")
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To: danamco

That’s a darned good one! Thanks for linking to it. factsnotfantasy, I mean.


20 posted on 10/12/2010 2:10:47 PM PDT by Greenperson
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