Posted on 11/09/2010 9:14:02 AM PST by patriotgal71
Last night on the “Tonight Show”, California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger responded to host Jay Leno’s question about the failure of Proposition 19, a measure on the California ballot to legalize the recreational use of marijuana. Schwarzenegger responded that the measure failed in part, because he had already decriminalized the use of less than 1 oz of pot, and also because, “No one cares if you smoke a joint.”
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RE: “Ummm, I believe the guy in the other car does.”
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LOL — my ultra lib, self described ‘Progressive’ Obama-loving and very annoying
neighbors, are having a hissy fit because the neighbor next to them sits in her convertible at night with a friend or two, smoking pot. The smoker is in her late forties and the complainers are in their late fifties.
It seems the complainers have a teen daughter whose bedroom is near the pot smoking site and they want to shield her from that. Funny??? I thought so!
These same people, known for infringing on the rights and property of others (loud when outdoors, barking dogs that never stop, trampling over others’ lawns, etc.) have ALWAYS indicated they felt people should “live and let live.”
I once pointed out to them that it seemed their stance was really more like “WE do what we want and YOU have to tolerate it.” Needless to say, there are few words between us anymore, thank heavens.
I hear the arguments that we already have enough problems, so why legalize one more drug. That's a silly argument, however, because it implies that there aren't any benefits to legalizing marijuana. For one, legalizing it will provide one less excuse to California law enforcement to run roughshod over the 4th amendment rights of citizens in an attempt to get their hands on an ounce or two of marijuana. It will also reduce the influence of foreign cartels in the California marijuana market. This is a stupid issue because California already has de facto legalization already. Anybody with any sort of ailment (minor lower back pain or clinical depression, for example) can go to a family doctor in California and get a medical marijuana card.
From my recollections of a decade ago (using marijuana in college and having our apartment smell like it all of the time), marijuana smoke is far more pleasant to be around than tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke has an acrid odor that is quite unappealing to those of us that don’t smoke, and even to this day, living in a college town with its share of potheads, I still find the smell of marijuana easier to tolerate.
I completely agree with you, however, that's whole different argument. A completely valid argument, mind you,but different nonetheless.
But back to my main point. We could save at least 75,000 lives a year if we banned alcohol, right? I mean no one would use it if it was illegal, and there's no way that the Mexican cartels who supply us with our marijuana, cocaine and heroin would ever consider supplying us with alcohol, right? Surely they'd respect our new alcohol laws and leave us alone.
Let’s also ban tobacco and fatty foods because they kill more people a day than marijuana kills in a lifetime. I don’t foresee any problems with these bans. People will obey the laws. /s
Why are you trying to make this into something that the article/thread isn't about? Perhaps you should start a new thread on this very subject? I am just say'n.
If I had my druthers, I don't want them driving impaired at all. And, for the record, I am 14yrs sober.
Well, I am sure we'll all rest easy knowing you don't have a problem with it.
You're beginning to take on the appearance of a kook.
First off, my comment was in response to the gov's statement, nothing more, ok? You are the one who added your little manifesto about the legalization, etc etc.
Second, my wife is a 2 time breast cancer survivor who, as the only way to stop the violent nausea, smoked pot. So don't tell me about inventing ANYTHING, got it? You don't know me, and have absolutely NO IDEA what I am about or what I have been through.
So, take your all knowing attitude and shove it...freak'n kook.
Your wife’s story is completely irrelevant to this story. Sorry to hear she went through all of that but that has nothing to do with the issue you posted about, which is impaired driving. I responded to that and told you it was a slippery slope argument because everyone knows impaired driving occurs in California even now, with marijuana decriminalized yet not legalized. The appeal to pity fallacy has no place here. I wasn’t debating the issue of medical marijuana which is the issue your emotional post deals with.
I mentioned the off-topic issue because you mentioned one as well. Marijuana usage itself is a victimless crime. You’re conflating it with impaired driving which in itself is already a crime in California and will likely always remain a crime. Even if marijuana is legalized, it will still be illegal to drive under the influence. Do I think that everyone will obey the law? No. But people don’t obey it now, so it’s not really relevant to the issue of marijuana legalization/criminalization, which is what this thread is about.
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