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Obama Isn’t Carter, He Is Nixon
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| 11/22/2010
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Posted on 11/22/2010 10:26:37 AM PST by Shout Bits
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To: wagglebee
Iran WAS an economic success. The Shah was one of America's most loyal allies, then Carter betrayed him for no reason at all. Iran was a mess. The Iranian people hated the Shah and his secret police, and there was an active revolutionary movement that had broad support among the population. Moreover, radical Islam had already found its foothold there, before Carter abandoned Iran.
Carter certainly made things worse ... but he didn't create the problem.
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posted on
11/22/2010 11:30:35 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: samtheman
Nixon was a patriot. Perhaps ... but he was also paranoid and crooked. In that, he's very much like Obama.
I don't see why the author insists on an either/or comparoson, though. Obama is very much like Carter, as well.
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posted on
11/22/2010 11:38:50 AM PST
by
r9etb
To: VanDeKoik
I'm not sure I'd describe Nixon as a progressive.
However, he was definitely a Keynesian in economic policy.
Plus he had some of the same utopian foreign policy ideas as Woodrow Wilson, but not as bad.
To understand Nixon, you need to understand the same Northeast/New England RINO wing of the party who gave us Tom Dewey, Eisenhower, the Rockerfeller family, the Romney family, the Bush family, etc.
Remember, Nixon chose to base himself in New York post presidency, so he would be close to this group. Where do you think he got Henry Kissinger, Melvin Laird and most of his non-California appointments?
Still, he was not the evil persona created by the DNC stenographer pool. Plus he had a sense of shame, something Obama never had and never will.
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posted on
11/22/2010 11:41:46 AM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
To: r9etb
The Iranian people hated the Shah and his secret police, and there was an active revolutionary movement that had broad support among the population. I never disputed any of that. The fact remains that Iran was an economic success.
Moreover, radical Islam had already found its foothold there, before Carter abandoned Iran.
The Shah may have fallen even with American support, but Iran's fate was sealed when Carter betrayed him.
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posted on
11/22/2010 11:46:36 AM PST
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: Snickering Hound
As Walter Sobchak would shout, “Hey, you’re over the foul line, man!”
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posted on
11/22/2010 12:27:54 PM PST
by
Erasmus
(Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
To: pnh102
I agree, and deplore all these efforts to compare Obama to some President from our past. We have had socialists before (Wilson, FDR, Johnson, Carter) and some of them had fascist tendencies, but we've never had one that was a foreigner who hated us, while trying to rule us. For a valid comparison, you'd have to find a nation that was conquered and had socialism imposed on it. Poland, perhaps, or Cuba. We were conquered from within, with help from international socialism, just as Nicaragua, Cuba, China, Venezuela were.
The best comparison is to Chavez.
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posted on
11/22/2010 12:33:45 PM PST
by
Defiant
(I'm a Fabian Constitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
To: Kartographer
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posted on
11/22/2010 12:37:56 PM PST
by
Defiant
(I'm a Fabian Constitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
To: pnh102
"Totally insulting to Nixon. Nixon at the very least loved the USA... and he helped save Israel during the 1973 War."
DITTO on that!
OBAMA is Hugo Chavez without the military experience.
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posted on
11/22/2010 1:02:19 PM PST
by
wmileo
To: r9etb
"In that, he's very much like OBAMA."
Nixon was not the Pied Piper type at all. OBAMA is. That is why our kids, over pampered and uneducated due to Public Schools and the so called 'Teacher's' Unions will make easy followers.
This type of scoundrel would never have been this successful if he were dealing with the Greatest Generation instead of their grandchildren.
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posted on
11/22/2010 1:11:02 PM PST
by
wmileo
To: Shout Bits
Richard is laughing at the nescient fool.
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