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Posted on 12/03/2010 11:27:44 AM PST by RandysRight

Just to make it easier for the moonbats, google…. “David DeGerolamo” “Judson Phillips” “14th amendment” and look at all the hits, chuckle.

Now the actual radio show in it’s “full” content is at link below (Nov 16th show)

(NATIONAL) — Are some Tea Party Leaders sending trial balloons up the party flagpole? Trial balloons testing the waters to see if the timing is right to bring to the table of public discourse the question of ending voting rights for those who are not property owners?

Of doing away with four amendments to the U.S. Constitution?

A Kansas City based human rights watch group that in October released the results of a year long probe into the Tea Party movement, has released a statement blasting Tea Party Nation President Judson Phillips for stating in a radio broadcast that renters – non-property owners – do not have the same “vested interest” in a community, and by extension the same inalienable right to vote, that property owners do.

On the November 17 edition of his Tea Party Nation Internet radio program, Phillips said:

“The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn’t you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you’re a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you’re not a property owner, you know, I’m sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community.”

A recording of his statement can be heard HERE

The “FreedomWorks Tea Party head Dick Armey has attempted to paint the Tea Parties as a movement by “real” Americans concerned (only) about fiscal policy and government debt,” said Devin Burghart of the The Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights based in Kansas City.

“He has pooh-poohed evidence of hard-core racists in his movement. And he has pretended that there is not an anti-democratic (small d) bone in the Tea Party body……(yet) in a stunning set of declarations aimed at the Tea Party faithful, however, Tea Party Nation President Judson Phillips sounded more like an economic and political royalist,” added Burghart.

The IREHR is a national organization that observes and reports on what it views as racist, anti-Semitic, white nationalist and far-right social movements, “analyzing their intersection with civil society and social policy.”

The group’s stated mission is educating the public about such groups and assisting in the protection and extension of human rights.

In October the group released the result of a one-year investigation into the Tea Party movement.

The report said it found the movement has ties to white nationalist groups and the militia movement. It used Tea Party literature and websites, government documents, campaign finance reports and visits to Tea Party meetings to reach its conclusions.

The IREHR asserts Judson Philips has also established himself among the “birther” movement crowd after articulating “his own theories on President Obama’s birth.”


The comment about non-property owners not being as vested in a community came during part of a larger exchange between Philips and another Tea Party Leader, David DeGerolama of NC Freedom.

DeGerolamo is the founder of North Carolina Freedom. NC Freedom is the statewide umbrella for Tea Party, 9-12, and “patriot” groups in North Carolina.

During their on air conversation the two men discussed which amendments to the U.S. Constitution they would like to see done away with or changed.

These include the 14th, 16th, 17th and 26th Amendments to the Constitution.

The 14th Amendment was ratified on July 9, 1868, and granted citizenship to “all persons born or naturalized in the United States,” which included former slaves recently freed.

In addition, it forbids states from denying any person “life, liberty or property, without due process of law” or to “deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

By directly mentioning the role of the states, the 14th Amendment greatly expanded the protection of civil rights to all Americans and is cited in more litigation than any other amendment.

Repealing the 14th amendment – in essence taking the country rights-wise back to before July 9, 1868 for the practical purposes of the protections the amendment guaranteed – could have a modern day effect of launching a direct attack on civil rights and due process of law as well as equal protection under the law.

You can listen to the conversation where Philips and DeGerolamo discuss getting rid of, or altering the amendments HERE

If the audio link is broken, the text is below:

Judson Phillips: “Of course, when people talk, three Amendments that really are the only ones that seriously get talked about getting repealed: the 16th Amendment, for the income tax, and we can only hope that happens; the 17th Amendment for having the appointment of Senators got back to state legislatures; and the 26th Amendment, I believe it is.

Do you know which one that is, David?”

David DeGerolamo: “No, but I know which one I want repealed.”

Judson Phillips: “Which one is that?”

David DeGerolamo: “I want the 14th Amendment repealed.”

Judson Phillips: “At least modified, but yeah…”


The IREHR and Burghart point out this is not the first time DeGerolamo’s group has promoted the view that the Fourteenth Amendment should be repealed.

“As noted in IREHR’s Tea Party Nationalism Special Report, NC Freedom publicized a series of seminars conducted by a group calling itself the North-Carolina American Republic. These workshops, entitled “Restore our Republics,” promoted the notion that individuals can declare themselves citizens of the North-Carolina Republic–the “real government” that was taken away by the Reconstruction Acts after the Civil War. By these lights, the Fourteenth Amendment is considered unconstitutional. These ideas are derived from the warped constitutionalism of the Posse Comitatus in the 1980s, and groups such as the Freemen and Republic of Texas in the 1990s,” said Burghart.

IREHR reports that 39 of the 51 members of the Tea Party Caucus in the last Congress wanted to end birthright citizenship as it is found in the Fourteenth Amendment.

A news report about the IREHR’s investigation into the Tea Party’s ties to white nationalists groups can be found HERE

The report itself can be read HERE

Details on all 27 amendments to the Constituton can be found HERE

All amendments explained on one page can be found HERE

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1 posted on 12/03/2010 11:27:47 AM PST by RandysRight
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To: RandysRight

David DeGerolamo” “Judson Phillips”
time for these huckleberries to go back to the grassroots and disappear from the limelight. Who appointed them? Join another teaparty.

2 posted on 12/03/2010 11:39:41 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
How about you take your newbie huckleberry backside off to learn about about the US Constitution and why the Franchise was restricted to property owners.

These guys are dead on right with what they're saying. No society that has a universal warm body 'right' to vote can survive. The moochers rapidly outvote the producers and before you know it we're where we are today.


3 posted on 12/03/2010 11:49:41 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
The debate about property ownership, renters and PROPERTY TAX has been around a very long time.

There is a legitimate debate ~ not sure it has much to do with "voting" although there are situations that involve ONLY PROPERTY OWNERS ~ and you end up having funny little foreign guys, minors, and people who don't even live in the community getting the vote.

A simple solution to the debate was proposed when the income tax was adopted ~ abolish property taxes.

In the end no one ended property taxes, nor excise taxes, nor even poll taxes so the income tax could be the be-all end-all of taxation.

I don't think these guys here have thought all that much about the consequences of bringing back a Property Ownership standard for all voting because you'd have People With Earned Income garnering the vote just to themselves!

Now that'd be a yuck-yuck!

4 posted on 12/03/2010 11:55:04 AM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Lurker
Lurker: "How about you take your newbie huckleberry backside off to learn about about the US Constitution"

somewhere there are guidelines about "making it personal". So you wanna test them out? How 'bout this: "Hey Lurker, go screw yourself!"
5 posted on 12/03/2010 12:05:06 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: campaignPete R-CT
It's not personal, I treat all the huckleberry noobs who spout stupid stuff exactly the same way.

Now how about this: Go read the US Constitution nimrod. Then scan The Federalist and Anti-Federalists writings and see what they said on the subject.

When you're done you can come back and spout all the stupid anti-TP crap you like.

6 posted on 12/03/2010 12:11:07 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

actually they both are doing just fine where their at. Most of this story is lies and misrepresentation. Study history more carefully how the 14th amendment was passed under duress of the conquered south by federal troops.

7 posted on 12/03/2010 8:06:32 PM PST by RandysRight
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To: campaignPete R-CT

‘somewhere there are guidelines about “making it personal”’

Yes there are, on the Religion Forum, but this is not the Religion Forum. On News/Activism threads we ‘make it personal’ all of the time, although rather more than I like.

8 posted on 12/03/2010 8:15:48 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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