Posted on 12/04/2010 4:38:14 AM PST by marktwain
Today, U.S. District Court Judge Morrison England dismissed both suits brought against the State of California challenging their restrictions on handgun ammunition that go into effect on February 1, 2011. In both suits, he ruled that the claims failed on ripeness grounds. In virtually identical opinions, Judge England said:
Plaintiffs claims are not ripe for review. They cannot demonstrate any current harm or a sufficiently immediate concern. No one can yet anticipate how Californias bill will affect Plaintiffs and/or their business. No case or controversy exists at this time. Therefore, Plaintiffs case is DISMISSED without prejudice, and Defendants Motion to Dismiss ... is DENIED as moot.
AB 962, the Anti-Gang Neighborhood Protection Act of 2009, is a California law that bans anything other than face-to-face transactions in handgun ammunition starting on February 1st.
The first suit brought against this law was State Ammunition et al v. Lindley which challenged the law on the grounds that it was impermissably vague, that it interfered with interstate commerce, and that it violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. A version of this lawsuit had been brought prior to the McDonald decision. That version was voluntarily dismissed and then refiled in July to take advantage of the McDonald decision.
The second suit, Owner-Operators Independent Drivers Association et al v. Lindley, also alleged that AB 962 interfered with interstate commerce. However, they took a fairly innovative approach when they argued that the law violated the Federal Aviation Administration Authorization Act, which prohibits states and local municipalities from interfering with carriers rates, routes, or services.
A third suit, Sheriff Clay Parker et al v. State of California, was filed in state court and is not effected by Judge England's orders.
In his orders, Judge England noted that ripeness claims are a question of timing. He cited Supreme Court precedent regarding ripeness:
The Supreme Court has consistently held that the ripeness doctrine aims to prevent the courts, through premature adjudication, from entangling themselves in abstract disagreements. Thomas v. Union Carbide Agric. Prod. Co., 473 U.S. 568, 580 (1985) (citing Abbott Lab. v. Gardner, 387 U.S. 136, 148 (1967)).
He goes on to add that while the Declaratory Judgment Act does grant Federal courts the power to "declare rights and other legal relationships" in cases within its jurisdiction, the case must be constitutionally ripe. That is, "that is the facts demonstrate there is a controversy 'of sufficient immediacy and reality.' " He concluded that it was too early to judge the impact of AB 962 and therefore dismissed the cases.
I would anticipate that after February 1, 2011 when the law becomes effective, both of these cases will be reintroduced in Federal court challenging AB 962. Until then, it is up to the state courts to deal with this matter.
The order dismissing State Ammunition et al v. Lindley can be found here and the order dismissing OOIDA et al v. Lindley can be found here.
UPDATE: Dave Hardy of Arms and the Law blog had this to say about the ruling in an e-mail he gave me permission to share:
Rather strange ruling. Ripeness doesn't key upon "is the law presently applicable?" It's more along the lines of whether the rule is presently ambiguous and delay might clarify the issues by,for example, letting the agency administering do some interpretation of it, or giving the court a more concrete setting. Where the statute is clear, there's no difference between deciding its constitutionality now and doing so in a couple of months. The very brevity of the court's order is suggestive ... while I like short rulings, the present fad is to hand down 20-30 page opinions on almost any ruling. List facts in excruciating detail, summarize everyone's arguments, devote a few pages to the standards for a motion to dismiss which everyone knows and are probably cut and pasted from a stock ruling, and then after 10-15 pages, finally explain the decision.
Then there's the practical end -- appeal an error and spend a year and a beaucoup of money and time, or just re-file in two months
Solution: take your money and your guns and move out of that failed state while you still can.
i wonder what the business licencing requirements are for ammo sales? will people start discount ammo shops?
right now a lot of people in california get their bulk ammo from phone or internet purchases and then UPS drops it at the front door. i guess that no longer will be possible. but ammo at the local gun store is usually around 40% to 100% more. you can still buy ammo at gun shows, i guess thats face to face, if you can find a gun show.
but will there be new discount ammo places popping up?
dont you find it bizarre that in california marijuana “clubs” are sprouting up everywhere, while the number of sporting goods stores serving the hunting and shooting sports is shrinking?
i bet it works out like gun purchases. if you buy a gun from out of state it has to be shipped to a FFL, you pay a fee, maybe $50, and pick up the gun from the FFL licence guy. I bet the ammo shipments are the same, you have it shipped to the dealer and then pick it up.
just a guess.
But then again,the 1st doesn't say “no law infringing on the right to breath” either when exercising the stated right to free speech.
It doesn't have to the symbiosis is implicit.
A frivolous silly and dangerous ban that no ambitious judge wants to touch until they know if Obama is a one-termer or not.
If they rule in favor of the ammo ban and Obama is reelected they stand a better chance of being promoted.
If they throw out the ban not so much.
The evil Left has totally converted once serious constitutional jurists into cynical and corrupt opinion pole watchers
(Sheesh! I hope the Polish Anti-Defamation League doesn't come after me.)
[cynical and corrupt opinion pole watchers]
You were right the first time, they are idol worshipers who covet power and money.
I buy all my ammo online and in Reno, NV. Our govt is so friggin stupid. We will always find a way around these stupid laws that only punish law abiding citizens.
Federal judges are for all practical purposes, politicians. Unelected and unaccountable for life.
This is one of the glaring weaknesses of the U.S. constitution. I understand the rationale for lifetime appointments, but it's somewhat naive and idealistic, and was instituted when men were more honorable.
To correct it would require an amendment requiring judges to stand for election, just like other federal offices. I don't know about other states, but judges in Texas are all elected, even Supreme Court justices.
Sounds like he pulled that one out of his @$$.
>....ripeness grounds....
>Sounds like he pulled that one out of his @$$.
Explaining the ripeness of the ruling...
;)
Onr reason why I left CA in 1978.
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