Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Borepatch: I finally get my own gun
http://borepatch.blogspot.com ^ | 3 Dec 2010 | Borepatch

Posted on 12/04/2010 12:28:04 PM PST by smokingfrog

I just got my first gun.

Kim du Toit used to blog about how a .22 was a household commodity, like sugar or flour. However, the People's Republic of Massachusetts made things enough of a PITA that we never jumped through the required hoops. Now we're in Georgia, and breathe free air, so it's a different story.

Because I no longer live in Massachusetts, I don't need special licensing from the State to own a gun. Even without special papers, without fingerprinting and background checks, I can own one - and ammunition (!) -without becoming a felon. What this make me, in a psychologically important way, is a citizen. Not a subject, not someone who has to ask "please" from some Government Functionary, but a free citizen who can be entrusted with the tools of power.

Funny, I haven't had the urge to go shoot up a school. According to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun **--Ownership--** Violence, this no doubt will overtake me any day now.

The Winchester 190 was a semi-automatic plinking/varmint rifle manufactured in fairly large quantities. It's tube fed, and the tube magazine is probably big enough to make this an "assault rifle" in New Jersey. This one has a 2x scope, and looks like it would be sweet for clearing out small, unwelcome four-footed guests. And since the two-footed ones don't want to get shot (even with a .22), it might have some use there as well.

But the meaning goes beyond the (quite modest) firepower of the rifle. It's a statement of freedom, the mark of a citizen, not a subject. We could use more citizens, not more subjects.

(Excerpt) Read more at borepatch.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunlaws; winchester190
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-57 next last
This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...

My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

1 posted on 12/04/2010 12:28:06 PM PST by smokingfrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Congratulations on your emancipation...never let a construct of Man usurp it again.


2 posted on 12/04/2010 12:39:09 PM PST by dogcaller
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog; Envisioning; waterhill

Congratulations. I hope youy will continue to be (as most of us are) a responsible gun owner. Personally, I own several firearms, rifles, handguns, shotguns. I am 70 years of age, and have never shot up a school, church, or other facility.

“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” -A. E. van Vogt (The Weapon Shops of Isher).


3 posted on 12/04/2010 12:39:09 PM PST by ixtl (When people fear government, there is tyranny; when government fears people, there is liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Welcome to The South,where the SEC rules.

Don’t know where in Georgia you moved to,but it’s likely 8 0f 10 trucks you pass has a rifle,shotgun or pistol in it.Plus you can eat grits.


4 posted on 12/04/2010 12:43:12 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

I’d buy one a month just for the heck of it now ... I own about a dozen rifles (four semi-auto) and two handguns. The biggest problem is keeping them all fed.


5 posted on 12/04/2010 12:43:28 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ReverendJames

7.62 X 39 FMJ Warsaw rounds used to be about $54.00 per THOUSAND. I wonder what they are now...


6 posted on 12/04/2010 12:51:29 PM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Congratulations!!!!

Once you get used to having that .22, go out and get yourself some REAL fun in an AR15. You WILL NOT be sorry. They have to be one of the most fun guns to own and shoot there is. Ammo is ‘fairly’ inexpensive too.

For defense, think of different types of guns for various purposes and ranges. Buy accordingly.....And get yourself a good gun safe.(weighing at least 1,000lbs and fire rated)

My small collection:

AR15 - 5.56/.223REM
PTR91 - 7.62x51/.308 (HK91/G3 Clone)
Saiga12 - 12 Gauge mag/drum fed semi auto
Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge pump
Beretta 92FS - 9MM semi auto
HK USP45 Tactical - .45ACP
Springfield Armory XD40 - .40 Caliber semi auto

I still have a little work to do, but right now I can defend the castle from zombies, take it outside, short, medium, and longer ranges.


7 posted on 12/04/2010 12:55:27 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Huebolt

When I bought my mini-14, I bought a case of .223 for $80. Now that case sells for $450.


8 posted on 12/04/2010 12:56:59 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: silentreignofheroes
Several of those trucks will have all three ~ rifle, shotgun and pistol ~ and some will have different sizes as well.

For some of those drivers there's very little wiggle room up front.

But it's not just the Souf'` ~ we were going up I65 from Seymour Indiana to Indy and lo and behold some guys in a pickup behind us passed on that causeway/levee at FlatRock about 85 MPH only to pull over as soon as they got all the way across. They jumped out, shotguns (slugs) in hand and started running through the muck towards what looked like a HERD of deer ~ Oh, my goodness ~ and a couple of 18 wheelers saw them and they pulled over, jumped out with shotguns in hand (slugs) and they also began mucking across the muck.

In some parts of this country there's no excuse for not having handy the right device to hunt ~ or whatever else you might want to do.

9 posted on 12/04/2010 1:01:36 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ixtl
I am 70 years of age, and have never shot up a school, church, or other facility.

Yes, but what if one of your guns finds its way into an SUV, the two conspire, go rogue together, and shoot up a whole kindergarten???

10 posted on 12/04/2010 1:02:55 PM PST by libstripper (uite eff)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: silentreignofheroes
Plus you can eat grits.

Grits, both a food and a spackle...
just kidding - sort of - ;-p

11 posted on 12/04/2010 1:03:48 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog
I received my first rifle at age 15. It was a .22 Mossberg target rifle (Model 144LS)with a 7-round magazine. Having been carefully instructed in its safe handling and care, I was deemed sufficiently responsible to have it. It as a big day for me. Bigger than the first time my folks turned me loose with family car. I kept it on a horizontal gun rack mounted over my bed. The rack had a small storage drawer for the rifle's cleaning kit...and ammo. In today's world, my parent's would have been criminally charged with child endangerment. I parted with that rifle at the age of 40 (times where tight and I needed the money). I sure do miss that rifle. It was a real tack driver. Got me a spot on the varsity rifle team with it, beating out competitors using Anschutz rifles costing thousands of dollars. I wish I'd never parted with it.
12 posted on 12/04/2010 1:04:27 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah

LOL , reckon we’re everywhere.


13 posted on 12/04/2010 1:06:25 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Huebolt

Not sure - I do go to our local gun show once a month ...I see pallets of 7.62 stuff in sealed cans but since I don’t own a gun that uses that round .... but to me, any ammo from the East is pretty dirty esp. Wolf ... several rounds went up the barrel of my Marlin .45 Campgun, jammed (without me realizing it) - changed mags. and blew up the barrel with a US made round ...cracked the furniture too ... Marlin did the non-warranty repair for just $75 ...


14 posted on 12/04/2010 1:07:21 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only a lawyer and a painter can change black to white)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: IYAS9YAS

Add more cheese for spackle.


15 posted on 12/04/2010 1:07:53 PM PST by silentreignofheroes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Now that you own a firearm, please remember to do two things:

1) Practice with it. Truly this is an act of “being and becoming”, as you get used to using your firearm, then become comfortable with it.

2) Clean it, and clean it some more. Your firearm will be a happy firearm.


16 posted on 12/04/2010 1:15:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Excellent!! Put lots of rounds through it and keep plenty of ammo on hand. The way things are going here, you’ll need that rifle to take the local wildlife for food. I just hope we can stop short of taking the local cats and dogs. Although Col. Benjamin Martin did observe that “Dog makes a fine meal.”


17 posted on 12/04/2010 1:16:09 PM PST by Dick Bachert (11/2 was a good start. Onward to '12. U Pubbies be strong or next time we send in the libertarians!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ez
"Now that case sells for $450."

Maybe two years ago when everyone was running scared of 0bama. Right now, you can buy cases of .223 'range ammo' all day long for around $250-$300 per 1,000rnds. Now's the time to stock up!

18 posted on 12/04/2010 1:18:38 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog
?Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life. So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

Related: National Anthem's Second Verse

19 posted on 12/04/2010 1:19:03 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PowderMonkey
This one?

Mosseberg 44US

20 posted on 12/04/2010 1:20:53 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Nailbiter

for later read


21 posted on 12/04/2010 1:24:54 PM PST by Nailbiter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IYAS9YAS

Hey now - how many foods with just a wee bit of accessorizing can be used as breakfast, dessert or dinner? HMMMMM?


22 posted on 12/04/2010 1:26:50 PM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: sanjoaquinvalley

Pickles.
Hotdogs.
Sishi.
Bacon.
More Bacon.


23 posted on 12/04/2010 1:33:27 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Huebolt

$219.00. Postage paid from Ammoman.com


24 posted on 12/04/2010 1:38:56 PM PST by Renegade
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: OneWingedShark

Bacon-wrapped bacon!


25 posted on 12/04/2010 1:39:42 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: KoRn
I need to get some real guns. All I own are:

the worst M1911 clone Auto Ordnance could excrete from its foul, union-run dungeons,

a sawed off Mosinka-Dubinka (1959 Bulgarian attempt at making low-cost billyclubs for concentration camp guards) that probably shoots better if you put the ammo in backwards,

a Marlin 3000 (a 336 made for big box stores without any of that fancy nonsense such as accuracy or production quality) complete with a Kmart scope,

a Czech autojammer in Tokarev caliber that loves to drop the hammer when I put on the safety, and separate into two components whenever I put it in the holster,

and a Ruger 10/22 that was reworked by an amateur gunsmith to ensure removal of what little accuracy or quality Ruger may have accidentally installed.

I'm praying for a break in so that I can write them all off on my insurance and buy some Colts, Remingtons, and Henrys.
26 posted on 12/04/2010 1:46:47 PM PST by struwwelpeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Congrats! Now go get a pistol and a carry license. Its easy and another statement to our want to be rules! Georgia has pretty good gun laws. A few still need to be changed but overall not bad.
I LOVE it here!


27 posted on 12/04/2010 1:52:44 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KoRn

Thanks. I’ll check again.


28 posted on 12/04/2010 1:53:20 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog
That's a beauty! Worth every penny too. Mine was the successor to that one. The 144LS had a straight bolt handle, Lyman sights, and an adjustable fore end stop. The stock was American walnut. The Mossberg line of my day was largely overlooked by 3-position small bore competitors, but with a total cost of around $50 I could hold my own in rifle matches with nationally ranked teams. No, hooked butt plates, diopters, or fancy gew-gaws or doo-dads. It was simply a finely made rifle with iron peep sights. You became a marksman by learning its strengths and weakness; becoming intimately familiar with its trigger pull; learned to time the shot between heart beats. That rifle could group ten rounds into an area the size of shirt button. I sold it for $75. Yes it still hurts whenever I think about that.
29 posted on 12/04/2010 2:07:50 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

Congrats on finally experiencing a relatively FREE part of the country. I would not do well in peoples’ republic states like Mass or Kalifornia. And the thugocracy which runs those states would not have much fun trying to take my guns from me.


30 posted on 12/04/2010 2:14:06 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: dogcaller; All

FYI

I’m not “Borepatch” - I just posted from his blog.


31 posted on 12/04/2010 2:29:46 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: struwwelpeter

How could anyone ruin a Ruger 10/22? I have one that’s 35 years old (no plastic parts) and it still works great. Thinking about getting a target barrel for it though.


32 posted on 12/04/2010 2:33:04 PM PST by smokingfrog ( ><{{{{{(0>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: silentreignofheroes

Welcome to Georgia. Guns n grits forever.


33 posted on 12/04/2010 3:00:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: struwwelpeter

Call your local PD and see who or where the next gun “buy-back” is happening.


34 posted on 12/04/2010 3:08:37 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: PowderMonkey
"learned to time the shot between heart beats"

I haven't heard that in ages! Who was your coach?

35 posted on 12/04/2010 3:17:07 PM PST by An Old Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: struwwelpeter

Maybe you can make a trade at your gun show or through private parties to get one quality firearm. Maybe not a kimber or Colt, but something like a newer 10-22 or Rossi?

One that you can trust to fire beats several that you can’t.

And if you’re re building your collection, consider consolodating calibers, too.

I decided that I didn’t really need 9mm or .40 cal so I traded/sold them off so I had fewer calibers to keep stocked.

That was, of course, before the tragic incident where I lost all my equipment in a boating accident.


36 posted on 12/04/2010 3:22:38 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Eagle Eye

Thanks, sounds like a good idea. Especially consolidating calibers.


37 posted on 12/04/2010 4:54:33 PM PST by struwwelpeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: ez

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Herters-Rifle-Ammunition-Tins/706333.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch%2F%3FN%3D%26No%3D60%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3D223%2Bammo%26Ntx%3Dmode%252Bmatchall%26WTz_stype%3DSP%26form_state%3DsearchForm%26search%3D223%2Bammo&Ntt=223+ammo


38 posted on 12/04/2010 5:01:44 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: An Old Man

His name was U.S. Army Col. Kenneth Potter. Audie Murphy’s CO himself.


39 posted on 12/04/2010 5:02:09 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: ez
When I bought my mini-14, I bought a case of .223 for $80. Now that case sells for $450

I have the ranch rifle. I wanted a mini-14 but the seller talked me into the mini-30, I think they call it. Ammo is pretty cheap if you get the Russian made stuff. Someone posted it's $240 a case.

If the ammo is good enough for the red army, I suppose it's mostly ok...

40 posted on 12/04/2010 5:24:57 PM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: struwwelpeter

Yeah, for a while I thought it cool to have something in every caliber but when ammo went short I thought it best to just keep a few standard calibers. Not saying I don’t still have ammo in the off calibers ‘just in case’, but .38/357 and .45 are about it.

And of course, .22LR. IMO .22LR is the rodney dangerfield of calibers. Half of what I have is .22. Aint nobody wanting to get hit with .22.

Oops. That was before the boating accident.


41 posted on 12/04/2010 5:31:01 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Huebolt

Mini 30 will heat up quickly if you rapid fire.


42 posted on 12/04/2010 5:33:14 PM PST by Eagle Eye (A blind clock finds a nut at least twice a day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: KoRn
I just got my son this t shirt:

Nothing helps a shy teenager's confidence like having the coolest t shirts in class.

43 posted on 12/04/2010 5:43:29 PM PST by Pan_Yan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Pan_Yan

Hehe Nice!!!


44 posted on 12/04/2010 5:44:22 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Huebolt; Renegade

Cheaperthandirt has surplus cans of 640 rounds for $127.89. Not nearly as cheap as $54 for 1000, but certainly not as expensive as feeding some of the fancier models.


45 posted on 12/04/2010 5:48:58 PM PST by Pan_Yan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Eagle Eye
If I could find a nice carbine in .45 ACP (other than a Thompson), I'd be happy with just that and a good M1911.

Any ideas on a good .22 rifle or pistol? I'm fond of lever-action, but if you know of any recoil-operated guns that can digest what passes for .22 ammo these days, I'd appreciate the knowledge :-)
46 posted on 12/04/2010 5:50:40 PM PST by struwwelpeter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: IYAS9YAS
Grits, both a food and a spackle...

You can eat grits?

47 posted on 12/04/2010 6:18:07 PM PST by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

I bought a Mossberg 4 US from CMP for $165


48 posted on 12/04/2010 6:27:54 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: smokingfrog

I bought a Mossberg 44 US from CMP for $165


49 posted on 12/04/2010 6:28:03 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: struwwelpeter

Geez, you’ve had a bad stretch of luck with those piss poor “firearms”.


50 posted on 12/04/2010 6:30:12 PM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson