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Lakin trial did not resolve original issue (Obama eligibility)
The Greeley Gazette ^ | December 24, 2010 | Jack Minor

Posted on 12/24/2010 12:22:02 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Greeley Tribune editorial one-sided as usual

Last week a local Greeley resident whose family has longstanding ties to the community was convicted of disobeying orders after trying unsuccessfully for over a year to get satisfactory answers to a simple question. Then attacked in a Greeley Tribune editorial as if Lakin were a two-headed monster; not a right-leaning local boy...did we mention right-leaning?

The question is one that every citizen should have the right to have answered, but especially members of our armed forces who place themselves in harm’s way to protect us.

Lt. Col. Lakin was sentenced to discharge from the Army, forfeiture of all pay allowances including retirement and six months confinement at Ft. Leavenworth. At present it remains to be seen if the base commander MGen Horst will reduce or commute his sentence.

Critics of Lakin say his conviction settles once and for all questions regarding the President’s eligibility. No less than Maureen Dowd, columnist for the New York Times, officially pronounced the issue dead based on the guilty plea. The sad reality of the case is that while Lakin suffers confinement, the issue is still unresolved by either side, thanks to the judge’s ruling.

When Judge Denise Lind ruled that Lakin would not be permitted discovery of documents or witnesses regarding Obama’s eligibility, she ensured the issue would remain unsettled. Many, including Lakin’s attorney, have said that her ruling was correct insomuch as it is irrelevant that Lakin did disobey orders. However, saying they are irrelevant to those charges is not the same as ruling that Obama is in fact eligible.

The vast multitudes of lawsuits that have been filed have been dismissed on technical issues such as “standing” claiming the American people have no fundamental right to challenge a sitting President’s status because they are not harmed by his actions. Other rulings have pointed the finger at others regarding the eligibility issue. Courts have ruled it is Congress or the electors responsibility to vet a candidate while Congress has said it is either the courts or individual party's responsibility. In fact, a Congressional report was released admitting there is currently no requirement for any agency to properly verify the constitutional eligibility of any presidential candidate.

That is a long cry from a definitive ruling on Obama’s eligibility; it is simply passing the buck. Black pastor James Manning, who was present at the trial, said “the American people are wondering why this is still an issue after two years.” He is absolutely correct. The longer it goes on with Obama refusing to release his long form birth certificate featuring the doctor’s signature and hospital where he was born citizens should be suspicious. The former Hawaiian director of Public Health assured us that such a document exists, we at The Gazette would ask to trot that document out then. What? ...Silence? Strange.

At that time, only two years after Hawaii became the 50th state, Hawaii allowed foreign born children to have their births registered. Additionally, the state of Hawaii has never verified the authenticity of the several certifications of live birth forms presented by the campaign and circulating on the Internet, a fact that even critics of “birthers” have admitted.

Today, a good man sits in prison for asking a question of his superiors and being rebuffed. It was telling that everyone sitting on the court martial board agreed that it was an important and basic right for military men to have questions answered.

Sadly the issue will never be resolved satisfactorily until one particular branch of government or agency will step up to the plate and take responsibility for this issue. It is a shame because the issue could be resolved so quickly by simply producing a piece of paper. When even a CNN poll (left) reveals that only 42 percent of the American people definitely believe Obama was born in this country we have a serious problem especially when all of the major media including Fox have done everything to say there is no issue.

The timing of the trial which was pushed back more than once to coincide with right before Christmas makes the message loud and clear to the common soldier, Obama’s eligibility is never to be questioned. With a military engaged in multiple wars it is vital they be able to have the utmost confidence in their commander-in-chief. Lakin stated his questions were never answered. If he is going to do time in prison, we believe he at least deserves to have an answer to his question.

Courts ruling that citizens have no right to know if their president is constitutionally qualified is simply treasonous; and citizens can no longer hold our government accountable. Our founding fathers have written this would happen, immediately followed by the country suffering a mortal, self-inflicted wound. "There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." -- John Adams, 1814.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; kangaroocourt; naturalborncitizen; obama; politicalprisoner; terrylakin

1 posted on 12/24/2010 12:22:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Free Lakin! Free the BC!


2 posted on 12/24/2010 12:25:09 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama’s first political prisoner.


3 posted on 12/24/2010 12:42:58 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

“Obama’s first political prisoner.”
The entire country is a political prisoner.
Until he provides proof, he is not to be trusted.
His word means nothing.
Try to get a drivers on your word. Oh wait, bad example.
Buy a home...er never mind.
There is no need for positive identification, except for the poor tax paying bastards that have to support the democRATS and their socialized voter party.


4 posted on 12/24/2010 12:48:36 PM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race)
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To: bgill

I want the bumper sticker, the sweatshirt and the ball cap with just that on it: Free Lakin!

Only one way this will ever get resolved. Although I do not believe Barry Soetoro will run for a second term, if he does, there will be one brave Secretary of State somewhere in this country who will demand the proof. If Obama doesn’t provide appropriate proof next go-around, he should not be allowed on the ballot and should have to forfeit all the bennies that go with being POTUS because he is an imposter. The burden of proof is and always has been on Obama. My nation is no longer a nation of laws but the rule of seedy moronic tyrants. This was the goal of Barry all along.


5 posted on 12/24/2010 12:49:26 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Congress could probably free Lakin if they had the will and courage to pursue this mystery that surrounds O’s BC. Hopefully, the new Congress will.


6 posted on 12/24/2010 12:55:20 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Lakin is locked up tighter than Barry’s Burf Certificate/long form. Maybe they can share a cell.


7 posted on 12/24/2010 1:08:44 PM PST by SERKIT (We need more of Barry's "Wet Diaper" news conferences. He gets smaller and smaller each time.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PING!


8 posted on 12/24/2010 1:56:07 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two reflections on this travisty of Justice.

First, the words of Justice Clarence Thomas keep ringing in my ears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6OiTiua08

Second, way back in 2008, there was a report by the Editor of African Press International that Michelle Obama had called him in a fit of rage after he filed a report questioning the eligibility of Obama. In the dressing-down by Michelle, she allegedly stated to the editor that she was appalled that a black editor would attack her husband. She went on to state that there was no law that was going to keep her husband from the presidency. While the story was ridiculed and eventually driven into the ground, I personally believe that the call took place because it fits Michelle's character to a tee. It also is a telling revelation with respect to the non-eligibility of Obama.

9 posted on 12/24/2010 2:45:31 PM PST by iontheball
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In response to the military’s decision and hoping to show gratitude for his taking on a formidable task , I sent a small contribution to the ‘ Terry Lakin Action Fund’. I’m hoping that there will be many, many people who were looking for eligibility answers and who will also contribute to the fund. By so doing there will be a huge support for Lakin as to livelihood that has now been denied him as well telling the USA there are many,many patriotic people who believe our Constitution is above and supreme over any judge and jury condescending to a usurper of POTUSA


10 posted on 12/24/2010 4:38:55 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In response to the military’s decision and hoping to show gratitude for his taking on a formidable task , I sent a small contribution to the ‘ Terry Lakin Action Fund’. I’m hoping that there will be many, many people who were looking for eligibility answers and who will also contribute to the fund. By so doing there will be a huge support for Lakin as to livelihood that has now been denied him as well telling the USA there are many,many patriotic people who believe our Constitution is above and supreme over any judge and jury condescending to a usurper of POTUSA


11 posted on 12/24/2010 4:39:14 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is he a two headed monster???

Just for asking to see the original BC?

Wow.

Thanks, Greenfield ...


12 posted on 12/25/2010 6:26:46 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Critics of Lakin say his conviction settles once and for all questions regarding the President’s eligibility.

This is a patently false assertion. Lakin's violation of the UCMJ and Obummer's eligibility have always been two separate issues. The former has been resolved; the latter has not been resolved.

13 posted on 12/25/2010 8:07:40 AM PST by verity
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To: verity
True, communists can separate moral Principal and technical facts with ease. Just orders. Yes Sir.
14 posted on 12/25/2010 8:18:22 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
You can neither reason nor spell worth a damn,you hick.
15 posted on 12/25/2010 8:32:58 PM PST by verity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“When Judge Denise Lind ruled that Larkin would not be permitted discovery of documents or witnesses regarding Obama’s eligibility, she ensured the issue would remain unsettled. “

This is the defining moment for me. I am not a lawyer, but the inability of Larkin to defend himself AND how it was NOT allowed, speaks volumes to me.

It was all turned into a kangaroo court, and the whole issue of TheZero’s eligibility IS PROVED BY THE ACTIONS OF THIS COURT!!!

If we allow the left to tie us into knots, well, there goes the country.

It is plain now, standing was there and NOT ALLOWED and DEFENSE WAS NOT ALLOWED.

TheZero is a fraud and the demonrats know it. And so do the Rino’s. And the conservatives. And the courts.

So, what are you going to do, America??? Slaves can’t ask questions of their owners, can they? Illegals have more rights than YOU DO.

How long will this go on???

OZOMBIE IS A FRAUD AND ALL OF HIS “LAWS” THAT HE SIGNED ARE BOGUS!!!!!


16 posted on 12/25/2010 8:33:40 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: TruthConquers
Unfortunately, your assertions are only your opinion (and they are similar to my own), because there is as yet not one shred of credible evidence one way or the other. There is mounting cicumstantial evidence that the bastard soiling the oval office is not anything like what the media has constructed, at someone very power's bidding. BArry the bastard is a ghost, so far.

What we are witnessing is the elites protecting barry the bastard because of his race and because he is directing the last days of the American Republic. The elites (in both parties) don't care if he was ineligible now that they have their 'leader' in place to accomplish what the democrap party has lusted for lo these several decades since the criminal Lyndon Johnson.

17 posted on 12/25/2010 8:45:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

“the elites protecting barry ... because he is directing the last days of the American Republic.”

This is the real reason.

But the string of unanswered questions do lead an honest person to come to the conclusion that Ozombie is ineligible PRECISELY because there has been NO effort to put this issue to rest. NONE. NO STANDING, NO DEFENSE. That speaks volumes.


18 posted on 12/25/2010 8:58:27 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: MHGinTN

The official meaning of Natural Born( used by Congress and the Supreme Court ) for over 200 years is :

CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN

There is ,nor ever has been any question that obama is in violation of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution.

The only question is, why was he ever allowed to run for the office of the President?

Lakin is not guilty of disobeying orders because there never was a legal order given. obama has no authority over the American military.


19 posted on 12/26/2010 9:15:57 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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