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The repeal of DADT from a retired Senior NCO’s Point of View
Coach is Right ^ | December 26th, 2010 | Jim Emerson, staff writer

Posted on 12/26/2010 10:40:12 AM PST by darkwing104

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To: norton
it would virtually assure a return to the draft

Which the homosexuals will no longer be able to avoid because of their homosexuality. No more kiss the psychiatrist and a quick 4-F! Instead, it will be kiss the psychiatrist and they are in the infantry, the most dangerous MOS. Off to the combat zone and then a pine box. But they might just make it a fabulously decorated pine box.

Be careful what you wish for - you may just get it.

21 posted on 12/26/2010 12:08:06 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: downtownconservative
I served proudly in the Marine Corps for 7+ years

Navy salute! Thank you for serving. I hope the Navy and the Corps can survive this Obomination.

22 posted on 12/26/2010 12:13:53 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: darkwing104

Everything Obama does is designed to weaken us... this is no different.


23 posted on 12/26/2010 12:25:46 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: central_va
I don't know how this will turn out.

I have worked with gay folk in the military before. They were lebs and they kept to themselves, did a good job and so no hassle - if you know what I mean.

In a tour in remote part of the RoK, we had a woman try to commit suicide - cut her wrists. Seems her roomie was gay and hit on her day and night till she took what she saw was the only way out.

The CO knew what was going on but did nada (he was all but worthless overall) and so was canned, but by then it was too late. In a male barracks, a gay guy likely would have been found - beat senseless/DoA someplace off-base.

So, ya, I sure as hell would not be willing to share a barracks room with one.

As a civilian, I've worked with gays, I mean openly gay, drama Queen types. (shrug) They do their job, I do mine and go home at the end of the day - no problem. What they do off the job is none of my business, eh?

Then again, I hated when the guys brought their hookers in to the barracks to use the showers - while I was there showering.

In the end, we agreed on ‘hooker-free’ hours/days - so I suppose something could be worked out for the few places left with cattle car accommodations - there are a few.

The military - at least while I was active - put a premium on folks working things out peacefully, all kinds of issues - a good NCO has to be in part, a good negotiator.

I got out when little Billy Klinton took over, though I could have stayed several more years. Glad I left when I did.

Just IMO, since I have no dog in this fight, I'll let the active guys figure what they are willing to accept - or not.

24 posted on 12/26/2010 12:44:34 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Americanexpat

No problem, FRiend. BTW- I agree with your post #11. I wouldn’t want to see the return of the draft either. IMO- the military needs to remain a volunteer force, not one where the unwilling are forced to serve.


25 posted on 12/26/2010 12:47:07 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: central_va

I think a lot of people who would not serve voluntarily would not serve if there were a draft either. Because of this change in policy our Church counselors are advising our young men and women not to serve.

No young man in our Church would submit to a military commander that is a sodomite and should not submit.

It’s not like the civilian world where you can just leave and find another job. In the military you are forced to accept the officer in authority over you.


26 posted on 12/26/2010 12:50:03 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
No young man in our Church would submit to a military commander that is a sodomite and should not submit.

Sad, we are losing the best.

27 posted on 12/26/2010 12:53:32 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Specifically - I just don't see that in any large measure. Women, perhaps, male gays - not so much. The recent bruhaha with Horrible Holly might be instructive.

It is a matter of temperament I guess you would say. I just haven't met any gays (admittedly a very small number to sample from) - but they just didn't strike me as someone that would make a successful NCO.

Can't say for Officers, the ones I worked with 1v1 were fighter pilots in a FAC outfit - otherwise, I was pretty much able to keep my distance. Just for the record, I walked away from a E-9 stripe and retired. The military had become just too.....much. Too much PC, too much politics, too much BS - well, you know, you've been there, I would hazard to say.

28 posted on 12/26/2010 1:01:29 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: central_va
Sad, we are losing the best.

I know and I take no pleasure in it. America, is on it's way down i am afraid. This is what happens when too many liberals and RINOs have power for too long.

29 posted on 12/26/2010 1:01:45 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: FrankR
Do what he wants, take what he wants, and silence anyone who disagrees

You can say that about any Statest. Talk a good talk, silence opposition and don't deliver on promises. The Miltary and the Elderly are their current targets, The jackboots already got the schools.


30 posted on 12/26/2010 1:10:29 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: ASOC
In a tour in remote part of the RoK, we had a woman try to commit suicide - cut her wrists. Seems her roomie was gay and hit on her day and night till she took what she saw was the only way out.

Why the heck didn't she tell her supervisor about it? And if he/she didn't do something about it... go up the chain? If it had to go to the CO, then the whole d@mn chain of command failed her, not just the commander.

Half of the dang problems are simply caused because the Sailor/Soldier/Airman/Marine didn't speak up about them.

31 posted on 12/26/2010 2:22:03 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: darkwing104

the army takes care of their own if you know what i mean.


32 posted on 12/26/2010 3:09:05 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: central_va

I pray the same!


33 posted on 12/26/2010 3:34:27 PM PST by downtownconservative
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To: gogogodzilla

I became aware of it when the medics took her out in the C-9. This was before my time working as a medic.

Word was (FWIW) that she had gone directly to the CO (very small American contingent on a RoK base) and complained. And got nowhere. The CO was a stone waste of O2 - how he lasted as long as he did is still a wonder to me, all these years later.

A ran across a lot of ‘duds’ in my active time - you know the 15 year E5 types. From what I see now, just as glad to be out.

My son passed on re-enlisting in the Corps because of “all the silliness” when a hard-charger (former FAST team member) sees the Corps as ‘silly’ in too many areas, maybe things have gotten worse than I had imagined.

The next few years will be interesting - in the Chinese curse sort of interesting...


34 posted on 12/26/2010 6:08:00 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC

This wouldn’t have been in Daegu (Taegu) would it? I’ve spent 6 out of the last 14 years of service in South Korea (3 at Osan, 3 at Yongsan - detailed to a ROK base, though).

I’ve seen my share of worthless NCOs and officers. But in this case, there’s a chance I might have actually run across the lady at some point. (That is, if it was since 1999 - as that was when I finally exited training and went off to my first duty assignment)


35 posted on 12/27/2010 12:54:52 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: gogogodzilla

Check your freepmail


36 posted on 12/27/2010 8:02:06 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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