Posted on 12/31/2010 3:34:20 AM PST by RobinMasters
HE IS NOT BRITISH.
Find an exception to the law at the time that would have allowed him to be British when he was born out of wedlock.
Unless,perhaps he was born in Canada.
According to the information we have, he is British. Unless of course you can get a DNA Sample and can prove his father was an American.
The information we have is that Ann was married to Obama Sr. when Barack was born. That makes him the son of a Britiah man, and he inherits his fathers citizenship.
Now, we HAVE to go with what we know. Now what we speculate about. Is it possible all the above is NOT true? Sure it is, but it is all information that would have to be gathered against the cretin’s will, because his will right now is what we see. Yes that makes me barf.
So based on what Obama has told us, he is as british as he is American at the time of his birth, and this means he was not ever, nor could he ever be a Natural Born Citizen.
That is the relevant point.
Well-stated.
It all adds up.
The son does NOT inherit the british citizenship in an out of wedlock birth.
Sr was already married.
There could be no legal marriage to Ann.
Barry was born a bastard.
Unless you want to claim that Obama, SR was never married..and you have to go with what you know at this point..and all evidence points to the fact that he was ALREADY married.
Why did Ann get a divorce instead of an annulment IF THERE EVER REALLY WAS A MARRIAGE.
Lolo’s FOIA shows why. A divorce decree was imperative for the next phase as her backstory was that she was married..and an annulment would have shown that one or both lied in the first marriage..which would screw up the plans of Obama, Sr.
This is the perfect time....everyone has pretty much been burned by this administration....so to end it would only ‘cause a ripple effect.
Once so elected, certified, and sworn, the man's ineligibility becomes at least a bit moot, wouldn't you say? The very Constitution he violated now protects the SOB, who can only be "removed" by Congress. BTW, you and I, accompanied by about 50 million fellow citizens, think the guy is ineligible. So what? We ain't a court... except of Public Opinion. Even if a majority were to feel he's ineligible, we still ain't the court, and we're certainly not Congress.
An impostor claiming a throne, or the Papacy, or reaching the North Pole, is certainly not unknown in History. It has even happened here in the Presidency of Chester Arthur, who as it now turns out, was not a "Natural Born Citizen," either! Are you going to tell me that the states admitted during his Presidency must now revert to territorial status?
Obama's ineligibility was known since he first burst upon the scene in 2005, especially by him. The question remains at the end of the day, "so waddawe do now?"
Obama controls that answer, depending upon whether or not he chooses to run in 2012. If he does, I believe our remedy may lie at the state level.
Logic, Law, and Patriotism make a heady mix ... but the cognitive dissonance we face in this case is that they do not mix at all. Obama is NOT eligible. He IS the sitting POTUS.
If we were already Latin America (coming to a country near you sooner than you think) the shooting would have started 2 years ago. We are not, so it will not. You and I, patriots or not, are stuck with this dude until at least 2012.
This isn't about getting rid of Obama.
It is about the Constitution and the rule of law.
If Obama were an American Citizen by virtue of birth in Hawaii, any subsequent shenanigans by Stanley and Lolo could not remove that from him. Yes, Lolo could have signed him up for an Indonesian passport, or even Indonesian Citizenship. He adopted him? Still does not remove his American citizenship, if that part of the legend is true.
However as an adult, if he were actually of Hawaiian birth and had a valid Hawaiian BC, he could claim American citizenship. All of this fou-faraw has NOTHING to do with "Natural Born Citizenship." At best, if all he says about Hawaii is true, all he CAN be is a NATIVE born citizen.
One nexus of the legal battle is the question, is a NATIVE a NATURAL? I say "No." Lots of other people say "Yes." What counts is what the SCOTUS says ...some day soon, may it please the Lord.
Precisely. What I am saying is that we keep the "getting rid of Obama" talk to the VFW bar. Instead, we really have to concentrate on the Republic surviving the rest of an illegitimate administration.
The Indonesiasn thingamabob is crucial to this whole scenario because it helps put the pieces together....
People can argue the merits of Native and Natural Born until they are blue in the face..but NOTHING is ever going to happen to Obama that his handlers don’t want to happen. Clinton is just as tight with Soros as Obama.
All you have to do is start with the fact that his history is full of lies, and black holes, and weird stories...and black holes..and realize that there aren’t too many people that could accomplish that. Not even the Russians.
From there..you just have to fit in the pieces as best as you can.
It should no longer be about where Obama was born.
It should be the WHO is doing this to us and WHY????
And what can someone do to stop it.
And it won’t be a court that will stop it.
It will have to be an insider.
Obama is a product of the CIA. Whether or not HE worked with them is unclear. But it sure looks like his family was involved with the spooks.
Absolutely! Geeze! With a nod of his head, Obama could have prevented that. ( What a guy!/s)
Some guy dies after a Passport break in...and some of Ann’s passport applications have disappeared...such as the one for 1965 that might have been a renewal for one before that.
Sorry! But, I am not giving up. Every legal avenue ( as well as the pressure of public opinion) must squeeze Obama to prove that he is a natural born citizen.
If we just roll over on this issue the rule of law and the Constitution is further damaged.
Birthers are fully capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. They can pursue this natural born citizenship issue **and** work on other issues as well.
Well, it isn't exactly "bogus", but neither is it as self-evident as you seem to believe.
One definition of NBC is, two citizen parents, but unless 5 justices of the USSC are willing to hear a case and to adopt that definition (or unless Congress passes a law and Obama signs it), it really doesn't matter.
The "birther" movement started out with the premise that NBC=born in the USA, and if it is ever proven that the person who calls himself "Barack Obama" was born in Hawaii after 1959, that will really be the end of it.
I also was taught that you had to be (a) born in the U.S. of (b) two U.S. citizen parents, in order to be eligible for the Presidency.
You posted nonsense. It does not matter where Obama was born he can never be a natural born citizen based on the foreign citizenship of his father. Many of us believe the birth certificate is a ruse to distract from the NBC issue, born on US soil and citizen parents.
We want to see the original birth certificate to see the father, if it is Barak, Barack or another name.
There is another matter that needs to be addressed..the 14th Amendment and the “subject to jurisdiction”. If a parent is a foreign citizen..does that qualify a child born in the US to be a citizen. We believe it does not.
So..Obama fails citizenship and natural born citizenship.
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