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Jeff Kuhner of WashTimes: Top Democrats & Top Senior Editors Concerned about Obama's Eligibility
Birther Report: Obama Release Your Records ^ | DECEMBER 31, 2010 | Obama Release Your Records

Posted on 12/31/2010 3:34:20 AM PST by RobinMasters

Video: Jeff Kuhner of the Washington Times: People around the White House and in democratic circles including senior top editors afraid to pursue Obama's Eligibility and records concealment.

Kuhner says the Media's abdicating their responsibility to pursue the truth and hold our politicians accountable. Kuhner goes on to say that All know there is something there, saying "where there's smoke, there's fire," and says the Controversy is gaining traction and momentum. This is an excellent interview with Jeff Kuhner.

Via MrTimotheus85; Steve Malzberg Interviews Jeff Kuhner - If The Truth Got Out About Obama There Would Be A Civil War.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; harvardresumefraud; kagan; kaganresumefraud; naturalborncitizen; noaccountability; nobirthcertificate; nocredentials; nodocumentation; nothesis; notransparency; noveritas; obama; obamaseligibility; resumefraud
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To: Danae

HE IS NOT BRITISH.

Find an exception to the law at the time that would have allowed him to be British when he was born out of wedlock.

Unless,perhaps he was born in Canada.


141 posted on 01/01/2011 8:36:02 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

According to the information we have, he is British. Unless of course you can get a DNA Sample and can prove his father was an American.

The information we have is that Ann was married to Obama Sr. when Barack was born. That makes him the son of a Britiah man, and he inherits his fathers citizenship.

Now, we HAVE to go with what we know. Now what we speculate about. Is it possible all the above is NOT true? Sure it is, but it is all information that would have to be gathered against the cretin’s will, because his will right now is what we see. Yes that makes me barf.

So based on what Obama has told us, he is as british as he is American at the time of his birth, and this means he was not ever, nor could he ever be a Natural Born Citizen.

That is the relevant point.


142 posted on 01/01/2011 9:27:28 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: PA-RIVER

Well-stated.

It all adds up.


143 posted on 01/01/2011 9:31:41 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Danae

The son does NOT inherit the british citizenship in an out of wedlock birth.

Sr was already married.

There could be no legal marriage to Ann.

Barry was born a bastard.

Unless you want to claim that Obama, SR was never married..and you have to go with what you know at this point..and all evidence points to the fact that he was ALREADY married.

Why did Ann get a divorce instead of an annulment IF THERE EVER REALLY WAS A MARRIAGE.

Lolo’s FOIA shows why. A divorce decree was imperative for the next phase as her backstory was that she was married..and an annulment would have shown that one or both lied in the first marriage..which would screw up the plans of Obama, Sr.


144 posted on 01/01/2011 9:33:31 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: EBH

This is the perfect time....everyone has pretty much been burned by this administration....so to end it would only ‘cause a ripple effect.


145 posted on 01/01/2011 9:39:58 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Candor7
If your Irish Setter had received ballot clearance in all "57" states (despite his father reportedly possibly a Chihuahua), received 53% of the popular vote (despite the AKC papers clearly stating the sire's provenance), and then received majority of the votes of the Electoral College as certified by the President of the Senate, (who certainly should have known better) was then sworn in by the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS (a "conservative," I hear tell, and he swore him in, not once but Twice!), why then I would have to say that that dog is indeed The "setting" POTUS.

Once so elected, certified, and sworn, the man's ineligibility becomes at least a bit moot, wouldn't you say? The very Constitution he violated now protects the SOB, who can only be "removed" by Congress. BTW, you and I, accompanied by about 50 million fellow citizens, think the guy is ineligible. So what? We ain't a court... except of Public Opinion. Even if a majority were to feel he's ineligible, we still ain't the court, and we're certainly not Congress.

An impostor claiming a throne, or the Papacy, or reaching the North Pole, is certainly not unknown in History. It has even happened here in the Presidency of Chester Arthur, who as it now turns out, was not a "Natural Born Citizen," either! Are you going to tell me that the states admitted during his Presidency must now revert to territorial status?

Obama's ineligibility was known since he first burst upon the scene in 2005, especially by him. The question remains at the end of the day, "so waddawe do now?"

Obama controls that answer, depending upon whether or not he chooses to run in 2012. If he does, I believe our remedy may lie at the state level.

Logic, Law, and Patriotism make a heady mix ... but the cognitive dissonance we face in this case is that they do not mix at all. Obama is NOT eligible. He IS the sitting POTUS.

If we were already Latin America (coming to a country near you sooner than you think) the shooting would have started 2 years ago. We are not, so it will not. You and I, patriots or not, are stuck with this dude until at least 2012.

146 posted on 01/01/2011 9:46:55 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
are stuck with this dude
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This isn't about getting rid of Obama.

It is about the Constitution and the rule of law.

147 posted on 01/01/2011 9:52:30 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: RummyChick; james777
The Indonesian thingamabob is just another "red herring." That is an element of confusion and dust in the eyes of those following the trail.

If Obama were an American Citizen by virtue of birth in Hawaii, any subsequent shenanigans by Stanley and Lolo could not remove that from him. Yes, Lolo could have signed him up for an Indonesian passport, or even Indonesian Citizenship. He adopted him? Still does not remove his American citizenship, if that part of the legend is true.

However as an adult, if he were actually of Hawaiian birth and had a valid Hawaiian BC, he could claim American citizenship. All of this fou-faraw has NOTHING to do with "Natural Born Citizenship." At best, if all he says about Hawaii is true, all he CAN be is a NATIVE born citizen.

One nexus of the legal battle is the question, is a NATIVE a NATURAL? I say "No." Lots of other people say "Yes." What counts is what the SCOTUS says ...some day soon, may it please the Lord.

148 posted on 01/01/2011 9:58:52 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: wintertime
This isn't about getting rid of Obama.
It is about the Constitution and the rule of law.

Precisely. What I am saying is that we keep the "getting rid of Obama" talk to the VFW bar. Instead, we really have to concentrate on the Republic surviving the rest of an illegitimate administration.

149 posted on 01/01/2011 10:06:06 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America can survive fools in office. It cannot long survive the fools who elect them.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The Indonesiasn thingamabob is crucial to this whole scenario because it helps put the pieces together....

People can argue the merits of Native and Natural Born until they are blue in the face..but NOTHING is ever going to happen to Obama that his handlers don’t want to happen. Clinton is just as tight with Soros as Obama.

All you have to do is start with the fact that his history is full of lies, and black holes, and weird stories...and black holes..and realize that there aren’t too many people that could accomplish that. Not even the Russians.

From there..you just have to fit in the pieces as best as you can.

It should no longer be about where Obama was born.

It should be the WHO is doing this to us and WHY????

And what can someone do to stop it.

And it won’t be a court that will stop it.

It will have to be an insider.

Obama is a product of the CIA. Whether or not HE worked with them is unclear. But it sure looks like his family was involved with the spooks.


150 posted on 01/01/2011 10:15:21 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: PA-RIVER
8. Obama imprisons a man rather than produce a BC. This is the most damning fact to date.
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Absolutely! Geeze! With a nod of his head, Obama could have prevented that. ( What a guy!/s)

151 posted on 01/01/2011 10:26:23 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: wintertime

Some guy dies after a Passport break in...and some of Ann’s passport applications have disappeared...such as the one for 1965 that might have been a renewal for one before that.


152 posted on 01/01/2011 10:30:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Kenny Bunk
Republic surviving the rest of an illegitimate administration.
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Sorry! But, I am not giving up. Every legal avenue ( as well as the pressure of public opinion) must squeeze Obama to prove that he is a natural born citizen.

If we just roll over on this issue the rule of law and the Constitution is further damaged.

Birthers are fully capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. They can pursue this natural born citizenship issue **and** work on other issues as well.

153 posted on 01/01/2011 10:30:52 AM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: butterdezillion
I did not mean to leave our conversation so abruptly last night, but my wife unplugged the computer at 11:45 p.m. and told me I was going to spend the last 15 minutes of 2010 and the first hour of 2011 with her. I gladly complied. LOL The reason your proposed law will attacked as unconstitutional is that it places an extra-constitutional requirement and limitation on the ability to urn for President. It will be a legal argument similiar to the argument made regarding term limits passed by various states for federal offices (US Senator & Representative) when SCOTUS declared them to be unconstitutional in the 90’s. I am not saying it is slam dunk for that ruling, but the prevailing legal sentiment certainly supports the view that requiring 2 citizens-parent, if the person is born in the USA, to be a unconstitutional infringement. As I said in a previous post, Your proposed law will certainly get that issue into the courts, I just don't think Scotus will weigh in the the issue if the lower courts find the law to be unconstitutional. But it is probably your best bet for some type of judicial resolution.
154 posted on 01/01/2011 11:01:28 AM PST by TNTNT
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To: Danae
Do you see anyone in Congress or in the media addressing this two citizen-parent theory? No one outside of the blogshphere even acknowledges it's existence nor believe it is a constitutional requirement to be President. I have said this to other posters, that until this ii made an issue by someone in authority to hold hearings, etc. this issue is going nowhere. The only issue in the public’s mind is whether Obama was born in Hawaii or not.
155 posted on 01/01/2011 11:17:34 AM PST by TNTNT
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To: browniexyz
Then get someone outside of the blogsphere to support your point of view. I have suggested Congressman and Senators to others, how about even one Conservative Constitutional Legal Foundation (there are dozens) get behind your efforts.
156 posted on 01/01/2011 11:24:05 AM PST by TNTNT
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To: bushpilot1
Obots state it is a bogus issue.

Well, it isn't exactly "bogus", but neither is it as self-evident as you seem to believe.

One definition of NBC is, two citizen parents, but unless 5 justices of the USSC are willing to hear a case and to adopt that definition (or unless Congress passes a law and Obama signs it), it really doesn't matter.

The "birther" movement started out with the premise that NBC=born in the USA, and if it is ever proven that the person who calls himself "Barack Obama" was born in Hawaii after 1959, that will really be the end of it.

157 posted on 01/01/2011 11:25:39 AM PST by Jim Noble (Re-elect Palin 2016)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I am sorry you received such a poor education. Did you go to public schools? I also was ion grade school in the 60’s and was taught the opposite, that if you were born in the USA you could someday be elected President. Isn't anecdotal evidence wonderful.
158 posted on 01/01/2011 11:28:10 AM PST by TNTNT
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; TNTNT
Well it was taught as fact during social studies, back when I was in grade school in the 60s.

I also was taught that you had to be (a) born in the U.S. of (b) two U.S. citizen parents, in order to be eligible for the Presidency.

159 posted on 01/01/2011 11:31:52 AM PST by thecodont
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To: Jim Noble

You posted nonsense. It does not matter where Obama was born he can never be a natural born citizen based on the foreign citizenship of his father. Many of us believe the birth certificate is a ruse to distract from the NBC issue, born on US soil and citizen parents.

We want to see the original birth certificate to see the father, if it is Barak, Barack or another name.

There is another matter that needs to be addressed..the 14th Amendment and the “subject to jurisdiction”. If a parent is a foreign citizen..does that qualify a child born in the US to be a citizen. We believe it does not.

So..Obama fails citizenship and natural born citizenship.


160 posted on 01/01/2011 11:40:08 AM PST by bushpilot1
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