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Steve Forbes Wants A Replacement Of The HCR Bill With One That Would Be Like The Food Stamp Program?
1/4/2010 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 01/04/2011 8:22:45 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

I was watching Forbes on Fox yesterday, and I could have sworn that I heard Steve Forbes say that a potential repeal and replace of Obama Care could be accomplished by Republicans pushing for a repeal and a replacement with a Health Care bill that would be similar to the food stamp program - and it would be set up on a sliding scale basis.

This got me to thinking...

How could Dems possibly be against this?

First of all, it could be set up as being voluntary - no individual mandate. No one is required to sign up for food stamps, and no one would be required to sign up for this, either. Those that want to keep their private coverage could. Obama himself said when campaigning against Hillary Clinton for the Democrat nomination that you couldn't mandate health care coverage anymore than you could mandate home ownership.

Secondly, costs could be kept down with allowing competition across state lines, tort reform, and requiring that when people moved up the economic ladder that they pay back what they used under this system.

This proposal would box Obama in as this would force him to say that he would be against a HCR system that is similar to the food stamp program, would force him to continue to support the individual mandate when it would no longer be necessary, and force him to have to let go of the gov't having total control that it will have under Obama Care.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: congress; deathpanels; foxnews; healthcare; obama; obamacare; steveforbes
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1 posted on 01/04/2011 8:22:51 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What say you?


2 posted on 01/04/2011 8:23:24 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I swear I am just going to liquidify, quit working and get on the dole.


3 posted on 01/04/2011 8:25:03 AM PST by riri
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I would rather have what Forbes suggested that have Obama Care. I can tell you that...


4 posted on 01/04/2011 8:25:54 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Obama isn’t about healthcare....he’s about control...so of course he will be against anything except control.


5 posted on 01/04/2011 8:26:46 AM PST by lonestar
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To: riri

“I swear I am just going to liquidify, quit working and get on the dole.”

I’m with you ... the Republicans will care for us.


6 posted on 01/04/2011 8:26:46 AM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Still digesting the idea. Not sure I even want to see the Fed government get that involved. The old camel nose into the tent metaphor. That said, the government already IS involved too much, and we probably aren’t going change that.

I wish Forbes would run for President. His economic leadership would be very attractive to the folks that overwhelmingly voted GOP last November.


7 posted on 01/04/2011 8:26:56 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Stevie Forbes just ANOTHER RINO New York Trust Fund “know-it-all” POS.


8 posted on 01/04/2011 8:26:56 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

When Steve Forbes can introduce legislation get back to me.


9 posted on 01/04/2011 8:27:14 AM PST by Artemis Webb (What, if not a bagel and coffee, confirms the existence of a just and loving God?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Well, for one thing, the Food Stamps program doesn’t require you to pay back what you used once you move up the economic ladder.

What other errors of fact are there?

Besides, as far as I can tell, the Libs want people dependent on them, not making free choices. That kills the idea right there.


10 posted on 01/04/2011 8:28:09 AM PST by Old Student
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m confused. Is this supposed to be a replacement for MediCaid?


11 posted on 01/04/2011 8:28:12 AM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Sounds good.


12 posted on 01/04/2011 8:28:51 AM PST by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say F*** NO! Repeal the bill and leave medicine alone.


13 posted on 01/04/2011 8:29:08 AM PST by calex59
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t like the food stamp system either. Easily scammed. Wasteful.


14 posted on 01/04/2011 8:30:06 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

So we’ve gone from “Compassionate Conservatism” to “Simple Socialism”?

Having said that, it’s probably as good as it’s going to get. The food stamp system does work pretty well at doing what it does: committing violence against the Constitution by picking pockets to give to those less fortunate.

Steve should address the question: Where in the Constitution does it authorize the Federal government to do what he is proposing? (Or is he proposing this be a state initiative, which I’d have much less trouble with?)


15 posted on 01/04/2011 8:31:08 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
The purist in me screams HELL NO.

The pragmatist in me sighs, it's the best we can expect.

16 posted on 01/04/2011 8:31:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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In line with food-stamps, there's a nationwide quick-care network being rapidly developed that has its first clinics set up in Wal-Marts with a full grocery facility on the premises.

Hmm.

17 posted on 01/04/2011 8:32:49 AM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: GeronL

Food stamps are less easily scammed than you might imagine. i’d go into that in some depth but having worked with those folks over the years off and on to improve the security of the program I probably shouldn’t. Odds are good I’d give away something.


18 posted on 01/04/2011 8:34:50 AM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: Artemis Webb

Forbes can suggest legislatuion, though.


19 posted on 01/04/2011 8:35:29 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Folks... this would probably be a lot better than the Medicare system in place today.

Because it would introduce price competition back into the equation. Consumers could shop around for medical services based on price and quality of service.

Prices would be set by the market instead of insurance company middlemen.

Choice + Competition = a Market that works.


20 posted on 01/04/2011 8:35:56 AM PST by o2bfree
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