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AZ Shooter of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords a Wack Job (Afghan vet/Muslim convert?)
Dakota Voice ^ | January 8, 2011 | Bob Ellis

Posted on 01/08/2011 3:24:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Though Leftist blogs and commentators wasted absolutely no time in declaring the gunman who shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) was a Tea Party conservative (before anyone even knew his name), I held off on making any comments until a little more was known.

Now details are starting to trickle in.

Fox News reports his name is Jared Loughner, though some other accounts now say it is Jared Laughner.

Business Insider reports he is an Arizona native and an Afghanistan war vet.

Some of the information coming out about him could fit in the profile of a conservative, but most of it fits the profile of a liberal…if not an outright wackjob that defies political categorization.

Business Insider also reports that his YouTube profile lists some of his favorite books including Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451, Communist Manifesto, and Mein Kampf. (Though I’ve read all those, I don’t think I’d call ANY of them my favorite).

Another report says one of his videos contains railing about a “second United States Constitution,” and something about currency. He says he won’t pay debts with a currency not backed by gold or silver, and that he does not trust in God.

Another video below shows him in what appears to be Islamic garb and burning an American flag. That same video also contains an obnoxious heavy metal song that says something about “bodies.”

Still another of his videos talks about mind control and also says that religion is a form of mind control. The video has background music that sounds like a hip-hop version of some sort of Islamic beat.

This guy seems to be thoroughly nuts. I don’t know of any remotely sane liberal or conservative who would approve of shooting innocent people as he has done. So blaming people who had nothing to do with the crime as Leftists have rushed to do is of limited, at best, genuine value.

However, Leftists do in fact realize that, if they can spit it right and spin it often enough and consistently enough, they hope to successfully brand conservatives and Tea Party patriots as being responsible for this crime. They will (and already are) saying that because conservatives have refused to go along with their socialist agenda, we have been “divisive” and “full of hate” and have thus created a “climate of hostility” that has fostered such crimes.

Never mind that conservatives are always the first to champion the law-abiding cause. Never mind that conservatives are always the first to lift up the value of innocent human life. Never mind that conservatives are always the most reliable advocates of law and order. Never mind that conservatives are always the ones who are toughest on crime.

No, facts and logic are unimportant (are liabilities, really) when liberals see something they believe they can spin to put their ideological enemies at a disadvantage.

Remember when Republicans swept congress in 1994 and the Democrats lost control of the entire congress for the first time in 40 years? They were beside themselves. And when that nutjob Timothy McVeigh bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City, what was the first blame-game played by the Clintonistas and other Leftists: blame the conservatives. Blame Rush Limbaugh and “hate radio.” Blame all those evil Right-wingers who refused to acquiesce quietly to their socialist agenda.

Back then, it worked. It stopped the conservative agenda cold, and turned a Republican congress that was finally turning the United States back to its freedom and limited government roots into…a bunch of impotent ninnies afraid of their own shadow, lest someone call them names.

Of course, back then, Fox News was just getting off the ground, there was no real internet community to speak of, no blogosphere and no conservative news conduit. That kind of crap isn’t going to fly today. Oh, the Left will definitely try (they already are), but conservatives aren’t going to cower in the corner and give up like we did in 1995.

So if you’d like to change your mind and start acting responsibly, you liberals, and blame the person who committed this terrible act, fine. But if you want to shamelessly use the blood of innocent people to fuel your vehicle to try and shut down people you cannot best in an ideological contest of wits, go for it. Show yourselves for the shallow, shameless curs that you are. And get ready to have your nose bloodied bad, because conservatives aren’t going to meekly put up with it this time.

(VIDEOS AT LINK)


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Local News; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; giffords; internet; jaredloughner
What a strange young man.
1 posted on 01/08/2011 3:24:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Piss poor analysis IMO...


2 posted on 01/08/2011 3:40:27 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Shooter IS NOT a military veteran.
3 posted on 01/08/2011 3:46:52 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I Google News’d this guy and stumbled across a link that took me to the latest Tweets about this guy.

A Saudi (based on the outfit) Sheik had Tweeted something about this guy spending a month on an Islamic learning tour (or words to that effect).

I wished I had saved it, but I kept reading the new Tweets.

I tried to recover it, but Google drops off the older Tweets after 20, or so.

I could kick my ass.

4 posted on 01/08/2011 3:49:57 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: smokingfrog
Shooter IS NOT a military veteran.

Thank God.
5 posted on 01/08/2011 3:51:11 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This nut attached himself to the left, but it could have been the right. He is mentally ill and not a political football.


6 posted on 01/08/2011 3:57:48 PM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: smokingfrog; 2ndDivisionVet
Shooter IS NOT a military veteran.

My guess too.

I think he was a left wing loon coming down
from Meth and SSRIs


7 posted on 01/08/2011 3:58:39 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another video below shows him in what appears to be Islamic garb and burning an American flag. That same video also contains an obnoxious heavy metal song that says something about “bodies.”

Lyrics: “Let the bodies hit the floor.”
8 posted on 01/08/2011 4:08:03 PM PST by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground - the Hogwarts of Stupid.)
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To: darkwing104

It’s important that we point out the fact that the Left immediately jumped on the “this is the Tea Party’s fault” bandwagon and debunk that bunk. This column does that.

The piece is not meant to be an in-depth analysis, because we don’t have much information yet. This is a heading-off-at-pass counter-punch to all the leftist vomit accusing us of causing the shooting.

We’re not going to stand by and let the left get away with that crap this time.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 4:21:56 PM PST by WXRGina
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To: oldbrowser

oldbrowser;

Sorry, but his actions as well as his politcs are a valid target-recall if you will, that “liberalism is a mental illness”.

He appears to be a far leftist/communist/muslim America hater....

He shot the congresswoman apparently because she was not “left” enough. He murdered 6 others for what? Puncuation marks.

His politics must be turned out as public fare-that is what his motivation was, apparently.

Hopefully, Congresswoman Gifford survives and is able to return to her office, maybe she will see the left for what it truly is.... anarchy for totalitarianism....

Regards;


10 posted on 01/08/2011 4:43:31 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: smokingfrog
Shooter IS NOT a military veteran. Shooter CAN NOT BE a military veteran. In many places I have read that he had a drug arrest record at age 19. Not eligible.
11 posted on 01/08/2011 5:30:09 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... Iowa 61)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If anything this guy is a Leftist so it is the LEFTIST ideology that is to blame. They should be ashamed of themselves for promoting this kind of violence along with many others like it.

Ex. (The riots in Greece, Britain, Russian Communist, Chinese Communist and Cuban murders of millions of human beings).

The left are guilty and have these murders on their hands (for being apologists for this), and for promoting an anti-God, Christian hating ideology that led this strange young man and millions of others in their way of thinking (especially at the university level).

J.S.


12 posted on 01/08/2011 6:19:02 PM PST by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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