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There’s Something Deeply Wrong with the Birth Certificate Narrative
Horowitz's News Real ^ | 1/24/11 | Bookworm

Posted on 01/24/2011 11:09:07 AM PST by pissant

Something doesn’t add up here:

Back in June 2008, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned short form of his Hawaii birth certificate. When people questioned the scanning, a few carefully chosen media types were invited to attest to the underlying long-form document’s authenticity, including FactCheck.org:

FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

FactCheck included pictures of a real document purporting to be a genuine long-form Hawaiian “Barack Hussein Obama” birth certificate.

Recently, the new Hawaii governor announced that he’s now going to make publicly available to all Americans, not just a few media partisans, the original long form birth certificate. One problem: He says that he can’t find the darn thing. Fortunately for Abercrombie’s abortive effort, the New York Times has reminded him of the same law Obama relied on in 2008 to keep his originalbirth certificate out of sight: only the birth child himself can release a Hawaiian birth certificate.

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KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; certifigate; hawaii; hi; larrysinclairslover; naturalborncitizen; notnaturalborn; obama
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To: LucyT

— Gibbs snuck a jab at the so-called birthers who don’t believe Obama was born in Hawaii. “I think rational people have — have long ago, many when they first heard and saw the president, come to the conclusion of his citizenship,” he said.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0111/key_gibbs_takeaways_ef25f6e6-0d60-4f79-89bc-dfc5b86c0b3a.html

Now what does that mean? It makes no sense whatsoever! So we are supposed to believe everything about his past, regardless of how many lies he is caught in, etc......., based on first seeing him and hearing him. WTF!!! Seriously WTF? These people are effing nuts! That statement by Gibbs is so ridiculous I had to read it several times to make sure I was reading it correctly.


141 posted on 01/24/2011 10:46:47 PM PST by mojitojoe (In itÂ’s 1400 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: littleharbour
I suspect it’s the parentage that is the embarassment, although I would not be surprised if it was the birth place. Either way, Obama is not giving the straight goods. Amazing how a relatively young, “brilliant” man was able to get all those degrees without many people who would have been his classmates having any recollection of him.

Not being able to remember someone from college isn't really that surprising. I recently found out that a lab tech that I work with graduated from the same university I did, with the same major, at the same time (1994), making us former classmates. We not only do not remember each other from university, but we don't even remember the same professors. As I recall, there weren't all that many people with that major, maybe about 30.

The more surprising and unbelievable claim, to me, would be people who say they remember Obama from so many years ago. Wasn't there someone who claimed she remembers his mother giving birth at the hospital at the same time she was? Unless they're relatives or they've maintained a relationship all that time, why would anyone remember someone from that long ago?

142 posted on 01/24/2011 10:59:52 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: patriot08

... or Spawn of Satan.


143 posted on 01/25/2011 4:44:42 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Fantasywriter

Wasn’t it the Obama campaign that said he was 57 on his facebook account?


144 posted on 01/25/2011 4:50:39 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: pissant; BP2; Las Vegas Ron; bgill; thouworm; Beckwith; autumnraine; wintertime; Hotlanta Mike; ...
The posted blog adds absolutely nothing useful toward solving the nativity mystery. Index data previously revealed had demonstrated that there is no individual named "Soetoro" in the Hawaii birth records.
145 posted on 01/25/2011 6:17:53 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: netmilsmom

Nobody knows for sure when he was born. No documentation, remember?

All we have is his word, and we all know how good that is.


146 posted on 01/25/2011 6:23:19 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: pissant

Interesting, the link on this story is NO LONGER VALID !!!


147 posted on 01/25/2011 6:27:48 AM PST by Scythian
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To: antiRepublicrat

Wow.

You are easily convinced. No proof whatsoever for your “positive” opinion.


148 posted on 01/25/2011 6:28:31 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: surrey

Amen. I thought the same thing, then and now.


149 posted on 01/25/2011 6:30:08 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: Scythian
Interesting, the link on this story is NO LONGER VALID !!!

I just clicked on the link and got a virus. Something is definitely up. Am notifying the admins.

150 posted on 01/25/2011 6:53:47 AM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Jedidah

>>All we have is his word, and we all know how good that is.<<

You are right, pitifully so right.


151 posted on 01/25/2011 7:01:32 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: rswan6574
Why wouldn’t he mention his family in Hawaii?

Because Barak H. Obama never had a family in Hawaii until the Dunhams paid him off to "adopt" Barry in 1971.
152 posted on 01/25/2011 7:34:17 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: wideminded

Barak Obama was never married to Stanley Ann Dunham.

There is no marriage license. There is no marriage certificate.

There was no announcement, no wedding, no preacher/imam, no guests, no bride’s maids, no ushers, no flower girl, no ring bearer, no wedding cake, and no pictures.

Michelle Obama has been quoted and captured on video saying, about Onbama’s mother, she was “very young and very single when she had him.”

http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/VeryYoungVerySingleQuote.htm


153 posted on 01/25/2011 7:41:48 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: TXnMA

I’m glad you straightened me out on that.


154 posted on 01/25/2011 7:44:22 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: LucyT

Re: “The Soetoro adoption was annulled in 1971 when Obama Sr. complained he, the paternal parent, was not properly notified of adoption proceeding.”

Senior was notified. That’s why he traveled 20,000 miles to visit Hawaii in 1971 “on family business” at the Dunham’s expense.

Senior, who was hobbling around on cheap iron prosthetic legs was broke, out of favor with the government, and a full-time drunk. The Dunhams made him a deal he couldn’t refuse.

Senior went back to Kenya with a bag of money, and Barry Soetoro became Barack Hussein Obama II.

http://theobamafile.com/_family/Senior.htm#christmasvisit


155 posted on 01/25/2011 7:52:45 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
...and the cool thing is that neither of us posted a "<grin...>" with our remarks...

Ah -- what the heck... <grin...>

156 posted on 01/25/2011 8:02:57 AM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Beckwith
Barack Obama was never married to Stanley Ann Dunham.

There is no marriage license. There is no marriage certificate.

The Obama-Dunham divorce decree has been located and the divorce papers were in fact served on Barack Obama, Sr. and the divorce papers list a date for the marriage. It's not clear to me why Stanley Ann would have gone through this process and expense if she was not at least convinced herself that she was married.

Also why take the risk of involving the courts in a fraud? Also wouldn't either her lawyer or the courts have tried to locate her marriage license?

Also, if you look at the same website you linked to, you will see a note ("DoH Confirms Nuptual Record") saying that the State of Hawaii has in fact confirmed that the Obama-Dunham wedding IS listed in their marriage index. link

157 posted on 01/25/2011 10:18:13 AM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Without the actual marriage license or marriage registry by the minister/JotP, the date of the marriage could have been very different from the one Stanley Ann listed in the divorce suit.


158 posted on 01/25/2011 10:20:42 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: pissant; All
Wait, is this the same David Horowitz that back in 2008 wrote this:
December 8, 2008 4:00 A.M.
Obama Derangement Syndrome
Shut up about the birth certificate.

The continuing efforts of a fringe group of conservatives to deny Obama his victory and to lay the basis for the claim that he is not a legitimate president are embarrassing and destructive. The fact that these efforts are being led by Alan Keyes, a demagogue who lost a Senate election to the then-unknown Obama by 42 points, should be a warning in itself.

This tempest over whether Obama, the child of an American citizen, was born on American soil is tantamount to the Democrats’ seditious claim that Bush “stole” the election in Florida and hence was not the legitimate president. This delusion helped to create the Democrats’ Bush derangement syndrome and encouraged Democratic leaders to lie about the origins of the Iraq war, and regard it as illegitimate as Bush himself. It became “Bush’s War” rather than an American War — with destructive consequences for our troops and our cause. The birth-certificate zealots are essentially arguing that 64 million voters should be disenfranchised because of a contested technicality as to whether Obama was born on U.S. soil. (McCain narrowly escaped the problem by being born in the Panama Canal zone, which is no longer American.)

What difference does it make to the future of this country whether Obama was born on U.S. soil? Advocates of this destructive campaign will argue that the constitutional principle regarding the qualifications for president trumps all others. But how viable will our Constitution be if five Supreme Court justices should decide to void 64 million ballots?

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Now he, or whomever "BOOKWORM" the author of the article is, posts this "There’s Something Deeply Wrong with the Birth Certificate Narrative"??

Interesting.

159 posted on 01/25/2011 10:37:53 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: wideminded
Are you calling Michelle Obama a liar?

There is no marriage license, nor marriage certificate in that divorce decree or anywhere else on this planet.

My statement stands as correct.

Re: “...the State of Hawaii has in fact confirmed that the Obama-Dunham wedding IS listed in their marriage index.”

The State of Hawaii has also confirmed that they have Obama’s long-form birth certificate too.

160 posted on 01/25/2011 11:24:06 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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