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Shut down the Federal Government
Mark Levin Fan ^ | 2-16-2011 | Mark Levin

Posted on 02/16/2011 7:47:31 AM PST by MarkLevinFan

"We cannot allow our children and our grandchildren to be burdened with 65-85% tax rates. We cannot allow them to be burdened with a massive government-run health care system that doesn’t care for them nor provide them with health.

This isn’t about the Republican leadership and Barack Obama. This is about you and me; the citizens of this country. We’re not on the sidelines. We’re right in the middle of the stadium. We own the damn stadium and the whole field. This government belongs to us.

They’re talking about our future, the future of children and grandchildren. They’re talking about our money and their money. Money yet earned. They don’t get to make these decisions without our input and without our consent. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to consent to impoverish my children and grandchildren because Barack Obama insists on it.

And I don’t care how the Republican leadership responds to it. I care how WE respond to it. The Tea Party activists. The conservatives. Individuals who don’t know what the hell they are. Who cares? From coast to coast. We will not sit idly by and allow this society to be destroyed for our children and grandchildren. Period! I don’t give a damn who the President of the United States is or what he demands.

One day, all of these politicians will be gone. They’re here temporarily. And yet their damage will be everlasting. It will be perpetual unless we, the American people, take a stand.

And we cannot and we must not leave it up to Washington DC to straighten it out, because they got us in this mess to begin with. So, if it’s Obama’s position that this budget is what it needs to be; which does not address a single entitlement; which is larded with massive tax increases; which is larded with one massive deficit spending plan after another; then shut the damn government down.

Because if we don’t, Obama will destroy the whole thing."

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"This is what he (Obama) wants. He wants you eating out of his hand. He and his ilk. That is the Leftists, the Statists.

They want you reliant on your energy, on your food, on your survival, on your health care. Reliant on THEM. This is why we must draw the line now and say, “screw you!”"


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: governmentshutdown; marklevin; obama; spending
Tuesday, Mark Levin opened his radio show discussing President Obama’s intentions to blow out our children’s future with unrecoverable debt. Mark says it’s time to draw the line and shut the government down.

Follow the link to listen to the audio of Mark's lecture.

1 posted on 02/16/2011 7:47:33 AM PST by MarkLevinFan
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To: shanover; Shhhh They are watching Us; SilvieWaldorfMD; Sir Hailstone; Sisku Hanne; sissyjane; ...

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2 posted on 02/16/2011 7:49:23 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan
We cannot allow our children and our grandchildren

I continue to think this is a losing frame of the argument. I think people hear this and they think that means the problems won't hit until later so don't worry about it.

3 posted on 02/16/2011 7:52:14 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: Huck
I continue to think this is a losing frame of the argument. I think people hear this and they think that means the problems won't hit until later so don't worry about it.

You may be right, but do you have a better argument?

4 posted on 02/16/2011 7:53:58 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan
They want you reliant on your energy, on your food, on your survival, on your health care. Reliant on THEM. This is why we must draw the line now and say, “screw you!”"

Yes, the American people are beginning to understand that it's time to say "screw you" to the federal government. Screw you and all your welfare programs. Shut down Social Security! Shut down your Medicare and Medicaid! Shut down your department of education!

We will all be better off without federal "help" with our lives.

5 posted on 02/16/2011 7:54:07 AM PST by Walts Ice Pick ("I'm not going to shut up!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: MarkLevinFan
I'm convinced the ONLY way to put a stop to this crap is to have a NATIONWIDE TAX REVOLT.

It would take massive cooperation between citizens and businesses to say NO! No more filing IRS forms, and no more withholding.

We starve the beast, and put em out of business. They can't throw us all in jail.

6 posted on 02/16/2011 7:55:26 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MarkLevinFan

The better argument is focused on what it means to YOU (not your kids, grandkids, great-grandkids.) And it’s based on the SHORT term. What’s impending. Because that’s all most people care about. They’re like grazing cows. They hear “grandkids” and think, it’s safe now, and go back to chewing cud.


7 posted on 02/16/2011 7:57:41 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: unixfox
I'm convinced the ONLY way to put a stop to this crap is to have a NATIONWIDE TAX REVOLT. It would take massive cooperation between citizens and businesses to say NO! No more filing IRS forms, and no more withholding. We starve the beast, and put em out of business. They can't throw us all in jail.

That's easy to say, if you don't have a family to support.

8 posted on 02/16/2011 7:57:47 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan
That's easy to say, if you don't have a family to support.

Good thing our founders didn't think like that.

9 posted on 02/16/2011 8:01:14 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: MarkLevinFan

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Levin has totally misrepresented the situation.
We won’t shut down the government, the Democrats will.
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If he wants it shut down he should be encouraging the Dems to do so.

I’m surprised he’s letting his usually clear thinking be manipulated so badly!


10 posted on 02/16/2011 8:02:17 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: Walts Ice Pick

Yep, its do or die time..I’d rather have dirt roads than sell our childrens future into slavery..


11 posted on 02/16/2011 8:06:45 AM PST by aces
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To: mrsmith

What the heck are you talking about?

The Democrats will gladly pass Obama’s horrendous agenda. The Democrats will gladly work with Republicans on “compromise.”

But, there is one and only one way to actually stop Obama. Republicans must shut the government down. Period. What are you missing?


12 posted on 02/16/2011 8:06:59 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: unixfox

You shouldn’t tell me what everyone must do. Do it yourself then tell me to follow your example.


13 posted on 02/16/2011 8:10:06 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan

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The Democrats will shut down the government to block the House budget.

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I’ve no time for anyone too foolish to know that by now.


14 posted on 02/16/2011 8:10:06 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: MarkLevinFan

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The Democrats will shut down the government to block the House budget.

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I’ve no time for anyone too foolish to know that by now.


15 posted on 02/16/2011 8:10:19 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

Run along then...


16 posted on 02/16/2011 8:11:23 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan
Mark says it’s time to draw the line and shut the government down.

Mark's monologue on this last night was brilliant. The pubbies should start burning down the media with every single argument they can think of as to why 0bama is wrong and they are right. They should not sut up until the people are on their side and the problem is solved. Nothing is more important than this right now.

But they won't, will they?

 

17 posted on 02/16/2011 8:12:07 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Huck
You're quite right that the argument shouldn't focus on future generations. Obama’s profligacy is never going to result in a tax burden radically different from the one we have now for the simple reason that the American people won't pay much more than they are paying now. They won't elect representatives who would vote for much higher taxes. If their representatives surprise them and vote for higher taxes anyway, they'll elect replacements. In the mean time, they'll evade the taxes.

Our fiscal burdens aren't leading to astronomical taxes. They're leading to default. It may be an open default or it may be default disguised by high rates of inflation, but default is the only way out. Our government, at all levels, is about to come acropper. The whole system will have to be redesigned to be sustainable.

Levin, and others should stop talking about unrealistic tax rates in the distant future and start talking about the fact that we can't finance the federal government without monetizing the debt.

Another thing bothers me about focusing on the taxes children and grandchildren are likely to pay decades hence. That tactic implicitly accepts the leftist idea that government's income is infinitely elastic. Government doesn't raise what it wants, it raises what free people are willing to give it. You can take more only by shooting people, which is ultimately self-defeating because you can't terrorize people into productivity. Our level of taxation is already probably above the revenue maximizing point. Government can't increase its income to match its expenditures. It has to reduce its expenditures to match its income. Conservatives shouldn't be making any argument that helps obscure that reality.

18 posted on 02/16/2011 8:40:49 AM PST by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: MarkLevinFan

if for no other reason than this: nothing else has worked


19 posted on 02/16/2011 9:13:54 AM PST by sloop (don't touch my junk)
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To: MarkLevinFan
The government is far too big and intrusive. Parts of it should be shut down and parts of it should be selectively defunded to stop the dumb things they do.

However, the government includes such entities as the military, the Coast Guard and the FAA. There are others. Do we really want those completely shut down and all of their activities halted, even for a week or so, while our politicians try to make political hay as a prelude to getting down to business and actually looking at and doing something useful about what the various governmental entities do, good, bad, necessary and unnecessary?

There would be worse than the personal inconvenience, for example, of all air travel within, to and from the United States being halted: without air traffic control, that would likely happen. There are presumably ongoing military operations and they would have to be halted midstream. How about Coast Guard search and rescue missions?

With the entire government shut down, could there even be votes to get it running again? I don't know but maybe not.

Perhaps we should all just cut off our noses to protest against governmental idiocy.
20 posted on 02/16/2011 9:17:31 AM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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To: fluffdaddy

Levin said more than that. I didn’t want to transcribe his entire monologue. Just the last couple minutes. Why don’t you listen to the full audio?


21 posted on 02/16/2011 9:18:21 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: DanMiller

You do know it’s happened before, right?


22 posted on 02/16/2011 9:20:38 AM PST by MarkLevinFan (Thank me!)
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To: MarkLevinFan

The citizens of the U.S. need to “go Egypt,” but they are too chickenshi’ite to do it.

Congress needs to be cancelled out, and the squatters and freeloaders occupying our White House and spending our money as if it were theirs need to be thrown out now.


23 posted on 02/16/2011 9:57:52 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: MarkLevinFan
I heard the whole thing live. His main point was that the GOP shouldn't fear a government shutdown, which is true as far as it goes. But Mark just isn't realistic about how this play is going to unfold. We aren't going to have astronomical tax rates; we are going to have a fiscal crisis and Republicans should be planning for it.

Within the next two years the federal government will no longer be able to beg, borrow or steal the money to fund its operations at current levels. The fed won't be able to close the gap by buying more government debt at absurdly low rates because inflation will be starting to run out of control. Government borrowing costs will rise sharply and we wont’ be able to borrow as much as the politicians want to spend at any price. Both the government and the economy will be in an unholy mess.

Obama will argue that the mess is all a result of Republican budget cutting. He's already started rolling that argument out. Republicans need to lay the foundation for a strong counter attack. Our political future depends on which party gets blamed for the fiscal crisis of 2012.

Levin's whole monologue attached far too much importance to trivial budget cutting and totally ignored the larger strategic picture. Any cuts the GOP is prepared to consider now are going to be grossly inadequate. In the scheme of things, it doesn't really matter much whether we spend $3.6 T or $3.7 T. Whatever happens in DC this year, we're in for a bumpy ride and the important thing is how we come out at the end. It would be nice to hear a bit more recognition of that reality from the “Great One.”

24 posted on 02/16/2011 10:24:05 AM PST by fluffdaddy (Is anyone else missing Fred Thompson about now?)
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To: fluffdaddy

I’m all for the shutdown. Of course it isn’t a total shutdown, we will just be forced to live off the current incoming proceeds. I think that is 75% of the current spend rate.

I highly doubt that there is any plan on what programs will be supported and what will not. On March 3rd the government will suddenly panic and try to figure it out to no avail. Will it be madness or is there an established process?


25 posted on 02/16/2011 10:39:10 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: MarkLevinFan

As Usual ... GOP is...

SNATCHING DEFEAT from the JAWS of VICTORY!!!


26 posted on 02/16/2011 12:17:49 PM PST by gwilhelm56 (Egypt 2011 = Iran 1979)
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To: gwilhelm56

The Obama government shutdown...


27 posted on 02/16/2011 12:29:52 PM PST by Freddd
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