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Memo to Democrats: It's time to end the Wisconsin Insurrection
examiner.com ^ | 2/19/2011 | Joe Newby

Posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:26 AM PST by FredJake

Dictionary.com defines insurrection as "an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government."

"Insurrection" aptly defines what is happening in Wisconsin.

Worse yet, the chief executive officer of the nation - President Obama - appears to tacitly approve of the insurrection. His campaign arm - Organizing for America, and the Democratic National Committee - are involved in planning and supporting the insurrection, even going so far as to bus protesters in an effort to undermine the lawful government of that state.

Thousands of protesters - many carrying signs comparing Governor Scott Walker to Adolf Hitler - stormed the Capitol in an effort to shut down the legislature. This is not a mere redress of grievance; this is outright revolt.

All 14 Senate Democrats have fled to parts unknown to prevent a vote on a bill meant to keep the state solvent.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the AWOL Democrats plan to remain out of the state until the governor caves in to their demands:

"When we go back is ultimately up to the governor's willingness to sit down and talk about this and come up with some sort of resolution," said Sen. Jon Erpenbach, who fled with 13 colleagues on Thursday to deprive Republicans of the needed quorum to pass the measure. He spoke by phone from a Chicago hotel, where he planned to stay Friday night.

But Governor Walker has had enough of the Democrats antics. According to a post at Hot Air, the Governor is playing hardball with the Senators:

“The protesters have every right to have their voices heard, but I’m not going to be intimidated into thinking I should ignore the voices of the five-and-a-half million taxpayers,” said Republican Gov. Scott Walker…

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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Wow! Insurrection? Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war.
1 posted on 02/19/2011 8:23:33 AM PST by FredJake
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To: FredJake
Americans who, in 2008, voted for abstract, fill-in-the-blanks concepts of "hope" and "change" might have dug a little deeper into the philosophy upon which those concepts were based. They might have explored the associations and the voting record of the one who promised, instead of substituting their own hopes and dreams for his illusory promises.

The ideas of Mao, Marx, and Lenin, implemented with the strategies of Alinsky, cannot be expected to yield liberty, opportunity, and plenty. On the other hand, a pledge of return to the principles of liberty expressed in America's Declaration of Independence, the 1787 Constitution, and the 200-year history of American freedom, accompanied by a record of study of those ideas and a voting record which supported the promise, would have been a better foundation for measuring a leader worthy of the role.

"I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple, applying all the possible savings of the public revenue to the discharge of the national debt; and not for a multiplication of officers and salaries merely to make partisans, and for increasing by every device the public debt on the principle of its being a public blessing." --Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799. ME 10:77

2 posted on 02/19/2011 8:26:51 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: FredJake

“Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war. “

I bet they’ll be outgunned.


3 posted on 02/19/2011 8:27:22 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: loveliberty2

As the Wall Street Journal pointed out, campaign contributions by government-sector unions, collected through mandatory dues, help elect the public officials who are then supposed to negotiate with them: “The unions sit, in effect, on both sides of the bargaining table.”

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/02/wisconsin-its-unions-vs-people-0#ixzz1EQBpNTkc


4 posted on 02/19/2011 8:30:54 AM PST by oldbrowser (Blaming the prince of fools shouldn't blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that elected him)
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To: FredJake

It seems like government salaries and benefits could simply be tied to some essential economic indicator or relative to private sector income.


5 posted on 02/19/2011 8:33:37 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: FredJake

An attempt to overthrow a duly elected state government.


6 posted on 02/19/2011 8:33:56 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FredJake

Haven’t you seen the signs in Wisconin, “Tax the Rich” and “Class War is Here” really stood out to me. Greedy mooching bastards. What a bunch of useful idiots. Liberalism has destroyed this country.


7 posted on 02/19/2011 8:35:34 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: FredJake

These ‘Rats need to review the definition of sedition.


8 posted on 02/19/2011 8:38:45 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: KansasGirl
Liberalism has destroyed this country.

Liberalism is communism.

9 posted on 02/19/2011 8:41:58 AM PST by Logical me
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To: oldbrowser

Say, is that anything like when the Mafia extorts protection money from you to protect you from the Mafia? Why wouldn’t RICO apply here... I’m sure with just a little investigation, it can be shown that union bosses have used mobster tactics and even committed mobster style crimes to achieve their political power and personal wealth... hell, the President himself acts like a mobster kingpin...


10 posted on 02/19/2011 8:41:58 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: KansasGirl
Liberalism has destroyed this country.

Liberalism is communism.

11 posted on 02/19/2011 8:42:29 AM PST by Logical me
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To: dps.inspect
"Why wouldn’t RICO apply here"

It's likely that these guys have screwed up their tax returns too.

12 posted on 02/19/2011 8:43:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: cripplecreek

Wisconsin,Arizona,Texas agrees who’s next?.


13 posted on 02/19/2011 8:45:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: FredJake

“Wow! Insurrection? Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war.” —————

Their behavior is a gift to conservatives! They are losing in the court of public opinion, single handedly destroying Obama’s chances for re-election, proving to be everything the conservatives said they were and imploding from within the union.

When your opposition is busy setting themselves on fire, we must NOT interfere. What a gift!


14 posted on 02/19/2011 8:46:05 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: Paladin2

These guys are such punks, and their punk President too...


15 posted on 02/19/2011 8:49:32 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: FredJake
The Wall Street Journal reports that the AWOL Democrats plan to remain out of the state until the governor caves in to their demands:

I was wrong, I admit.

I've always thought that all Democrats -- and all who vote for them -- were intellectually adolescent.

Now I see that they're actually infantile.

16 posted on 02/19/2011 8:51:51 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: FredJake
Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war.

...O.K. with me.....lets get it on.

..the fact is that the only way some situations can get resolved is extreme force.

If we are to be a nanny, socialist, big govt, perpetually broke, tyranny country, lets find out by fighting it out......the sooner the better.

Here is an "oldie but goody"...not out an out CWII, but a more peaceful solution:

It's Time to Part Company

Hurrah for the Republic of Texas....

17 posted on 02/19/2011 8:52:15 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: KansasGirl

“Tax the Rich” and “Class War is Here” really stood out to me. Greedy mooching bastards. What a bunch of useful idiots. Liberalism has destroyed this country.” -——

I know, isn’t it wonderful! This is called self destructing.
The Independents who will decide the next election will be remembering this, everything they are seeing, seered into their brain, that Obama was on the side of unions/marxist-communists/socialism, and sent in the DNC, the OFA to generally orchestrate the chaos.

The Tea Party set the standard in behavior, so you see this crowd of communists are well behaved having been told to not harm the historic structure of the Capitol nor its grounds. Notable, but Independents are said to be turning against the union 3 to 1, according to Frank Luntz, Republican pollster.


18 posted on 02/19/2011 8:53:28 AM PST by RitaOK
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To: driftdiver

Impeach the bastards for Sedition! —And that include the bastard in the White House!


19 posted on 02/19/2011 8:54:13 AM PST by Matthew James (SPEARHEAD!)
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To: Matthew James

Impeaching them does no good. They need a 2/3 majority for that.


20 posted on 02/19/2011 8:56:17 AM PST by Ingtar (Together we go broke (from a Pookie18 post))
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To: FredJake
WIS CHICKENS
21 posted on 02/19/2011 8:57:51 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: driftdiver

“I bet they’ll be outgunned.”

Community organizers and SEIU are paid soldiers. Protesting is their job. Actual people have real jobs and responsibilities. Us actual people don’t grab our tea-party signs and rush down to counter-protest against thugs who will be backed up by union police and other government paid workers with guns, riot gear and gas.

Ordinary people expect their elected representatives to do their job so that ordinary people can continue to provide for their families. So, no, they won’t be outgunned until they actually resort to guns and paramilitary force. But these people, except for the SEIU purple-shirts, aren’t really soldiers and probably don’t have guns.

The scary part of this is the President of the United States urging people to violence. Remember him saying, “Get into their faces and yell?” That’s assault. We all know where assault leads.


22 posted on 02/19/2011 9:00:10 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: oldbrowser
For many decades, once the teachers' national organization, the NEA, became a union, teachers were pressured to join and give up their dues payments, because they needed insurance.

For the past 30+/- years or so, however, most states have had a Professional Educators' Association which, as part of its package, offers insurance benefits.

As a result, teachers can choose to join or not join the national union.

Those whose personal views do not support the Far Left agenda of the Democrats do not have to belong. There needs to be a national publicity campaign to make this fact known.

23 posted on 02/19/2011 9:00:14 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: FredJake

“...tacitly approve...” I think not. He approved and encouraged!


24 posted on 02/19/2011 9:04:02 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: B.O. Plenty

Sadly in TExas the GOP is filled with RINOs almost as bad as the union scum in Wisconsin. Perry, Kay Bailey and COrnyn - open border vermin.


25 posted on 02/19/2011 9:18:57 AM PST by Frantzie (HD TV - Total Brain-washing now in High Def. 3-D Coming soon)
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To: FredJake; humblegunner; 50mm; Larry Lucido
Oh, Lookie!

Another examiner excerpt from FredJoejdawg2010NewbyJake.
26 posted on 02/19/2011 9:25:21 AM PST by shibumi (I am The Nexus One - I want more life, Baby I aint done!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Community organizers and SEIU are paid soldiers. Protesting is their job.

So, what you're saying is that for the most part, they're mercenaries.

Whereas people on our side are, essentially, volunteers.

History reveals that all other things being equal, the advantage is with the volunteers, I believe.

27 posted on 02/19/2011 9:30:03 AM PST by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--The Revolution Will Be Exit-Polled. I hope.)
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To: cripplecreek
This reminds me a bit of the Whiskey Rebellion when Washington was President. Washington didn't egg on the rebels as Obama is doing with the insurrection in Wisconsin, but called out the troops to put it down.

Of course if Obama had been President then, he wouldn't have sympathized with the whiskey rebels, since they were up in arms against paying a tax.

28 posted on 02/19/2011 9:34:10 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: filbert

“History reveals that all other things being equal, the advantage is with the volunteers, I believe.”

In an actual shooting war, yes. But what’s happening here is their side is intimidating our public officials; showing up outside the official’s homes and threatening them. The volunteers would need to be on-hand in all instances to stop our elected officials from feeling threatened. The volunteers all have day jobs.

Now, if Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh came up with a plan and got somebody to provide an information clearing house, we could have five concealed carry license holders to protect every Republican senator. We could put 3 to 1 in the street to counter-protest. But failing that leadership, which on their side is the union boss, we simply aren’t organized to counter their tactics. Hence the need for counter-insurgency community organizers. (CICO.)


29 posted on 02/19/2011 9:39:34 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

They’ve got “Rules for Radicals.”

We’ve got Petraeus’ Counterinsurgency manual.

We’ll see which one is more effective . . .


30 posted on 02/19/2011 9:47:53 AM PST by filbert (More filbert at http://www.medary.com--The Revolution Will Be Exit-Polled. I hope.)
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To: driftdiver
I bet they’ll be outgunned.

Listening to Rush on Friday, he very slowly and deliberately gave the union members in Madison a subtle warning with the following paraphrased comment: Think twice before engaging in mob action....................OUR mob is MUCH LARGER........

Very seldom have I heard Rush make so 'forceful' a statement. He's become more confrontational since his marriage and I like the 'NEW RUSH' :-)

31 posted on 02/19/2011 9:53:02 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: dps.inspect
Say, is that anything like when the Mafia extorts protection money from you to protect you from the Mafia?

That's exactly what it is. Unions are the mob's "protection service".

32 posted on 02/19/2011 9:57:12 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: driftdiver

>>“Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war. “
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>I bet they’ll be outgunned.

You’re overlooking one [maybe two] important factor[s]: the police.
The police-forces of this nation have been increasing their training, their equipment, and their will to use against the general public.
The police WILL be used against any “riots” or “insurrections.”

The other possible factor is the military. The Constitution says that there shouldn’t be any appropriation of monies for an army exceeding two years, Congress however has made it a forgone conclusion [based on their funding of the army continuously since before I was born] and thereby defeated the intention of that limitation. {Indeed, prior to WWII America did *not* have a standing/regular Army; the troops you see in “old west” movies were drawn from the States and funded basically by-commission (for a specific task) by the Congress.} There are several dangers of an active/regular Army: 1) they bear little allegiance to the people-as-a-whole when compared to their controlling agency [the government] (this is what the Chinese did for the Tienanmen Square incident; they called in troops from a far district in china to quash the protesters — I’m not too sure but I think they had to do that because the more local troops refused to move in.) 2) it removes from the people the sense that they are actually responsible for the defense of their nation (”Oh the Army will take care of any invasion!” compared to the state of affairs in AZ or CA) and 3) having a regular army makes it tempting to use it by those in political power — indeed one could argue that *NOT* using it is a waste of money — contrasted to ALWAYS having to draw, equip/arm, and train people every time you needed to use the Army. {In fact, the trial of LTC Lakin raises some interesting questions regarding military orders: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-vetscor/2638933/posts }


33 posted on 02/19/2011 10:10:34 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Ingtar

>Impeaching them does no good. They need a 2/3 majority for that.

The Governor has the power to hold elections for vacant seats:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2676122/posts

They are not there so the seats *ARE* [technically] vacant, no?


34 posted on 02/19/2011 10:24:25 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: FredJake

Such a nice phrase in the article “former Senator Russ Feingold”.


35 posted on 02/19/2011 10:28:19 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: OneWingedShark

Walker should file missing persons reports. How long until a missing person can be declared legally dead?


36 posted on 02/19/2011 10:29:28 AM PST by kevao (I)
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To: RitaOK
When your opposition is busy setting themselves on fire, we must NOT interfere. What a gift!

Which is why I believe that the counter protests of the Tea Party are a bad move right now. Would have been better to simply let the Dems fall on their own swords without our help.

Being Dems, they'll just turn around and claim that the "racist", "anti-worker" Tea Party started the fight.

37 posted on 02/19/2011 10:35:20 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: B.O. Plenty; Eaker; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ...
Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war.

You call it, I make it happen.

Here's your CWII Ping. as the custom dictates whenever a thread has one or more references to what may, sadly, be inevitable, we the keepers of the CWII ping list alert those who have requested it.

Your posting, as well as those it is responding to, qualifies!

About the CWII Ping List

The CWII Ping List is short for Civil War II. It is NOT a list of people advocating another Civil War in America. It is a list of people who are interested in the parallels between the Civil War (or War Between the States, if you prefer) and our current situation, or more generally are noting the references to a 'coming Civil War' that are made in the press.

Of course sometimes this is merely a figure of speech, such as "The Tea Parties are fighting a civil war for the heart of the GOP". This would not merit a CWII ping.

On the other hand someone saying something like "The events in California are reminiscent of what happened in Yugoslavia in the period proceeding the Civil War" would merit a ping.

FR rules do not permit advocating for the overthrow of the Republic, and I am not aware of anyone doing so on the list. Still many do see that as the political climate worsens we may be heading in a direction that makes such a conflict all but inevitable, particularly if other avenues for resolving our differences are taken away. Such as widespread vote fraud by leftists making elections meaningless, or a small cadre of judges over-ruling all attempts to end destructive policies over the clear will of the people.

The correct keyword tag for the Civil War II ping list is "CWII".
Please Freep Mail me to get on the list

38 posted on 02/19/2011 10:38:07 AM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: kevao

>Walker should file missing persons reports. How long until a missing person can be declared legally dead?

Something like 5 or 7 years, maybe even a decade, IIRC.


39 posted on 02/19/2011 10:38:25 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Frantzie
Sadly in TExas the GOP is filled with RINOs almost as bad as the union scum in Wisconsin. Perry, Kay Bailey and COrnyn - open border vermin.

What would you know about the Texas GOP? You're not even an American. Tend to your own back yard and leave Texas to us Texans.

40 posted on 02/19/2011 10:39:33 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kevao

According to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_absentia

According to Edgar Sentell, a retired senior vice-president and general counsel of Southern Farm Bureau Life Insurance Company, almost all the states recognize the presumption of death, by statute or judicial recognition of the common law rule. However, some states have amended their statutes to lower the seven-year period to only five consecutive years missing, and some, such as Minnesota and Georgia, have reduced the period even shorter to four years.


41 posted on 02/19/2011 10:42:02 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: driftdiver
“Looks to me like the libs want all-out civil war. “ I bet they’ll be outgunned.

Yeah but they are far better organized. For decades marxist talk and organization for revolution have been protected "speech" as ruled by federal courts. Further, it appears they can beat and maim citizens that disagree with them with impunity. American patriots that try to organize and ready themselves to fight back against the marxists are infiltrated and arrested by the federal government. So if the SHTF at least in the early stages you can expect the patriots to be slaughtered enmasse. Below are some selected items from 1963 Communist Goals.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

These marxists accomplishments or milestones of destruction of our nation could not have been accomplished without the active participation of the federal courts. There people are going to fight, physically, to keep what they have achieved and if you tell our idiot population about marxist subversion they laugh and call you crazy. I hope you are right my FReeper friend but we have a long way to go to be ready.

42 posted on 02/19/2011 10:42:52 AM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: RitaOK
Their behavior is a gift to conservatives! They are losing in the court of public opinion

But they are not concerned with public opinion.

They are concerned with fundamental transformation.

Over and over again, history teaches that force must be met with force.

We now have a government with one set of rules for the Cambridge Police Department, and another for the New Black Panther Party. One set of rules for Republican campaigns, and another for Democrats.

One set of rules for Wisconsin elected representatives, and another for the SEIU.

One definition of "civility" for us, another for them.

I have predicted since David Boies first articulated the "will of the people" argument in November 2000 in Florida that the Democrats would eventually come to rely on an SA, on storm troopers

They no longer accept that arithmetical counting of votes confers legitimacy to rule. They have not accepted this since at least 2000, and perhaps before.

They win an election? Fine. Blood is a big expense.

They lose? Look at their standard behavior now after they lose, everywhere. Florida. Washington State. Minnesota. Those were close, so cheating, or trying to cheat, was enough.

But a landslide like Wisconsin? Forget about it. That means war.

"We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America".

You thought he was kidding?

43 posted on 02/19/2011 10:43:40 AM PST by Jim Noble (House GOP: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.)
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To: kevao
I'm watching the marchers on FOX and there are some very good looking TEA party women.

There just one more reason to be a conservative, our women are really way above those skanks in floor length jean skirts with klogs and grey hair hanging all the way to the crack in their fat butts.

44 posted on 02/19/2011 11:04:55 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, in honor of Standing Wolf.)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I agree they are well organized. I also agree the police and military are likely to be used against those opposing the communist agenda.

They won’t tell the police or military member they are going after some guy trying to protect his family. They’ll tell ‘em the guy is a terrorist and a threat to his family and to his community.

Aren’t most law enforcement officers members of a union?


45 posted on 02/19/2011 11:31:09 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: filbert

“History reveals that all other things being equal, the advantage is with the volunteers, I believe. “

Really? Against a well organized communist incursion?


46 posted on 02/19/2011 11:37:11 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FredJake
I'm good with this idea. It's going to happen sooner or later.

I'd rather it happen while I'm still young enough to do my part to restore our Republic. I'd hate to think I'd left a mess like this for my kids to clean up.

47 posted on 02/19/2011 12:05:24 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Windflier

Which is why I believe that the counter protests of the Tea Party are a bad move right now.” -———

Exactly. I’m terribly afraid the Tea Party is in danager of walking into the perfect set-up, as is in “rope a dope”. Why take the spotlight off the bitter union now?

We aren’t being smart in controlling our imageif if this turns into a fist fight. We have been so superior in picking our battle grounds over the past year and looked so good and civilized that we have disarmed the lies and distortions of the msm. The msm convinced no one that we were whackos.

Now, when the msm is focusing like a laser on typical union behavior, a few Tea Partiers want to distract from that. Hopefully, it will be a low TP turn out.


48 posted on 02/19/2011 12:17:31 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: FredJake
I'll tell you this, for however amount of time our US citizen children are not influenced by 'government teachers', it is a damned blessing. Equally, it is a blessing that these government leeches are away from their jobs of trying to rob us of our hard-earned wealth is also a good thing.

Somebody tell me the downside in this? I hope the hell they never come back, regardless of whether they still get paid. They can't corrupt our childrens' minds of take more of our money if they're out in the streets protesting....hell, maybe the police will bust a few damned heads!

49 posted on 02/19/2011 12:21:23 PM PST by Gaffer (A Democrat is an animal that escaped extinction from the 'big dinosaur-killer' event.)
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To: cripplecreek

Cut off their salaries until they show up for work.


50 posted on 02/19/2011 2:21:01 PM PST by maro (One term is enough)
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