Posted on 02/28/2011 7:03:56 AM PST by Sasparilla
There was what appears to be a shooting accident on Saturday at a gun show in Bloomington, Indiana. A rifle went off as a person attending the show put it down on a vendors table. The bullet hit wood and two persons were hit by flying wood. One person had small wounds from the flying wood and refused medical treatment.
But, another man was hit by the flying wood and what is believed to be a .223 round. The bullet went through his arm and then struck another person.
One of the victims was reported to be in critical condition at a local hospital. Tests will be done to determine if the bullet came from the rifle. The bullet was recovered.
The show resumed after the injured left the building. At least one state has criminal penalties for accidental discharge of firearms at gun shows. There's an explanation of Arizona's law below. A visitor at the gun show turned on his cell phone camera right after the shooting. Heres the video...
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Ditto.
At all Washington state gun shows all guns have to have their actions tied back with plastic ties; they have to either go through the action down through where the magazine clips in, or in lever action rifles around the stock through the lever. No guns are allowed to have the magazines attached. They are not allowed to be removed until you leave the premises.
First of all, guns at gun shows ALWAYS have a zip tie or something similar through the chambers.
Secondly, the tables don't just have ammo laying around.
Third, a gun doesn't just "go off" when someone puts it down.
This rifle will be taken by the authorities for their investigation. Unless there is some major problem with it, the ONLY WAY it could have fired was for someone to pull the trigger.
I would like to think that if the gun grabbers were behind this that they would at least have enough sense to point the gun so that it wouldn't hit someone, but they might figure that anyone at a gun show deserves what they get.
Ps. You are not allowed to conceal carry or have cameras. No mention of cellphone cameras though. Weird.
Should dust the spent cartridge for prints
And the gun was loaded because?????? That is Gun Safety 101.
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/article_8aa90350-42ea-11e0-a641-001cc4c002e0.html
B-N man gives his account of accidental shooting at gun show
Bloomington resident Jim Webb said he was standing in the southwest corner of the building, about 20 feet from where an attendee at the show was handling a mini-14 semiautomatic rifle at about 11:15 a.m. As the patron was laying the rifle back on a vendor table, the gun accidentally discharged, said McLean County Sheriff Mike Emery.
Webb said everything appeared normal before the incident.
“All of a sudden, I heard a very loud gunshot,” he said. “Dead silence filled the air for what seemed to be about 10 very long seconds. My initial concern was wondering if there would be any gun shots to follow. After the ten seconds were up, a few people started shouting, ‘Call 911!’ People began to panic and I had realized this must have been an accidental discharge and walked to where the people were shouting.”
Webb grabbed his cellphone and started shooting video, which he later posted on YouTube.
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Or all firearms are checked by cops before you get in the door with them. That coupled with the fact that I stopped believing in firearms that go off spontaneously when you clean them or set them down.
Something doesn't sound right here.
I guess not all gun shows are created equal...I have never been to one with anything in the breeches. Wannabe gang bangers were all around test the action, and dry firing...maybe I need to go to a better gun show :)
Question is how did the round wind up in the gun and didn’t the vendor check his weapons as he put them out? I guess not.
That is a very paranoid suspicion. IMHO paranoia is good policy given our enemies. “They” really are out to get us.
1. Looked like a fairly well set up vendor. Visa/Master card placard neatly displayed. Well presented firearms, clean and well placed.
2. Not enough detail in the video to obviously show the condition of the actions; whether zip tied or not. Obviously not blocked with something large. Since some of the pistols on the back table look like they are fully closed, and there was nothing obvious tied to the triggers, I'm guessing there was no provision for keeping a round from being chambered.
3. Reasonably calm response by the cops. Including the undercover guy whose face is now all over the internet. He's the one seen with his badge wallet out securing the Mini-14 in question until a couple of uniformed officers show up.
It was not a .22LR, it was not a .243 or a .30-30. It wasn't a .38 Special or a .40 S&W, or a 270 Winchester. Of all the firearms to "AD" at a Gun Show, it just happend to be a .223, and I'd be willing to bet it *wasn't* a TC Contender, a Steyr Scout or a Remington 700. It was almost certainly one of those evil "black" rifles.
Sounds just a bit too convenient to me.
It’s interesting how the crowd maintained calmness and the professionalism of security. No panic just people calling 911. It’s just curious why the gun actions were not (at least in this case) disabled with plastic ties.
My experience has been the same at gun shows - breeches must be open and disabled from closing with a physical device (a wrap-around tie of some sort). Open ammo is not allowed anywhere near displayed firearms. Someone stupid is going to get sued, big-time.
I think Bloomington ceased to be part of Indiana a long time ago. I should know, I went to IU :(
first this was in Bloomington Illinois, second the mini-14 had been laying on the table from 9am till 11 am..I don’t(can’t) believe it had not been touched in all that time...my father and I were about 5 tables away when the gun went off.
At our area gunshows every weapon has a zip-tie run through the action so the weapon may not be fired without removing the tie. A LEO puts the tie in place if your bringing in a weapon to try and sell it, and ALL vendors must zip-tie their weapons on display or they will not be allowed in the show. Like you, this sounds like a staged occurance. NEVER trust the progressive bastards now running the government.
At our area gunshows every weapon has a zip-tie run through the action so the weapon may not be fired without removing the tie. A LEO puts the tie in place if you’re bringing in a weapon to try and sell it, and ALL vendors must zip-tie their weapons on display or they will not be allowed in the show. Like you, this sounds like a staged occurance. NEVER trust the progressive bastards now running the government.
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