Officer Puts His Firearm In A Jail Lock Box And Shoots Himself And A Border Patrol Agent

armedselfdefense.blogspot.com ^ | 03/08/11 | Gun Nut

[Sasparilla]

An officer is sure to become the "Butt" of station house jokes after a holding area video surveillance camera shows him shooting himself in the rear. The bullet also hit a Border Patrol Officer. Here's the video...

[Gaffer]

It just hasn’t happened yet. I own four and have for years. I don’t trust them fully loaded and ready to fire. They are an unforgiving master when it comes to vigilance.

[driftdiver]

If you’re like me you don’t trust yourself. Each to their own.

Just saying, you won’t have time to chamber a round when TSHTF.

[Gaffer]

Understood. Agree. Nice to shoot but.....

[Ron H.]

To coin a phrase here, the hapless LEO now has a ‘lead ass’, huh?! LOL.

[MasterGunner01]

As I recall, the standard Glock trigger pull is about 4 to 4.5 pounds; the NY1 trigger is about 8 pounds and the NY2 trigger is 11 to 12 pounds. Handling a Glock is all about keeping your finger OUT of the trigger guard.

Send this LEO back to Glock training school again.

About 15 years ago the SAC of the FBI Milwaukee field office shot himself through the thigh and calf with his Glock after he'd qualified on the range. Ouch — .40 S&W has to hurt!!

[Uri’el-2012]

Officer Puts His Firearm In A Jail Lock Box
And Shoots Himself And A Border Patrol Agent

I'm sure he knew that all guns are loaded.

That did not help however.

NRA Gun Safety Rules will keep you safer :

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

[Cboldt]

I was thinking similar, but on the lines of a 1911. Thumb safety engaged, no bang, no matter how hard the trigger is pulled (e.g., by catching on part of a holster or clothing).

[Cboldt]

-- I never use the safety switch. Ever. --

You should practice cycling the safety off. Rest your thumb on top of the safety, it cycles OFF quickly and easily, but takes a deliberate act. Try carrying cocked and locked (over an empty chamber if you want), to build trust in the safety. It won't cost you much time to drop the safety on your way to racking the first round into place, and racking is significantly easier when you aren't also cocking the hammer.

[Vinnie]

Plus the grip safety on the 1911. I really like the idea of that.

[Cboldt]

-- Plus the grip safety on the 1911. I really like the idea of that. --

That's a good feature for a dropped firearm, with the thumb safety off - but when holstering, which is what (I think) causes many of the Glock and DA revolver "shoot yourself" incidents (no finger needed in the trigger guard), one is apt to be depressing the grip safety. In order to be safe against the holster entering the trigger guard, one depends on the habit of cycling the thumb safety to ON before holstering.

Or, looking at the habit from the other direction, the only time the thumb safety goes to OFF is just before opening fire. Part of the activity of gripping should be placing the thumb firmly aside the slide, above the thumb safety.