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Unlucky Mig Pilot Shot Down By Rookie Gunners
armedselfdefense.blogspot.com ^ | 03/13/11 | France Twenty Four

Posted on 03/13/2011 7:28:02 AM PDT by Sasparilla

Sargent York claimed bird hunting success in the Tennessee hills by saying, "I lead 'em just a hair." It took more than that to bring down this Mig fighter. You've seen pictures of rebels riding Soviet ZPU-4 14.5MM type Anti-Aircraft Guns like cowboys. It reminds you of the crazed twin .50 caliber gunner in "Waterworld." A lucky shot happens every now and then. Here's the video...

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; libya; selfdefense
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1 posted on 03/13/2011 7:28:10 AM PDT by Sasparilla
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To: Sasparilla

Kinda “shoots a hole” in the “big sky, small bullet” theory. When I was in the Army, they taught us to fire a point in the sky though which you thought the plane would fly, rather than try to continuously lead it. I knew a guy who “duelled” an ME-109 with a 0.50 cal and was totally fustrated by the his lack of success. The 109 took big lazy looping turns and he couldn’t but a round on it.


2 posted on 03/13/2011 7:40:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Sulzberger Family Motto: Trois generations d'imbeciles, assez)
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To: Sasparilla
Maybe I missed it but did any of you hear the rebels talk a bout Allah? Did they say anything. Usually they can't say 10 words without yelling “Allah.” I just think that's interesting if they didn't.
3 posted on 03/13/2011 7:41:24 AM PDT by grapeape (Blitzshield.com - making football safer)
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To: Sasparilla

To bad we can’t get these folks some shouulder fire missiles.
Love to see more of these booted out of the sky.
Just don’t think America needs do the job.


4 posted on 03/13/2011 7:55:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Joe Boucher
Are you sure we want to help them. If they are hard core Muslims they could be worse then what is there.
5 posted on 03/13/2011 8:08:09 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Sasparilla
Pure luck? maybe not... video: Jet-Eye Tanker School
6 posted on 03/13/2011 8:12:37 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I was in the 82nd’s air defense battalion. We give classes at the ranges in shooting at aircraft. We had radio controlled styrofoam airplanes that would fly back and forth in front of a hundred guys with M-16’s, M-60’ MG’s. They’d hardly ever get hit. Five, or more passes.

I doubt the gunner hit the jet. He said he only had one gun working and he was untrained.


7 posted on 03/13/2011 8:22:21 AM PDT by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: riverrunner
“Are you sure we want to help them. If they are hard core Muslims they could be worse then what is there.”

Bingo. Anyone that thinks all these asshats are going to magically turn into peace loving responsible friends of the world is delusional. There are hard core cretins behind this sudden chaos in the middle east, and it isn't going to bode well for Western Civilization.
It's a powder keg, the fuse is lit, and dumb mass journalists are cheering them on like they are a bunch of college boys protesting high beer prices.
On a separate note, the “rebels” apparently haven't signed up for ObamaCare’s dental plan yet.

8 posted on 03/13/2011 8:31:41 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: grapeape
Maybe I missed it but did any of you hear the rebels talk a bout Allah? Did they say anything. Usually they can't say 10 words without yelling “Allah.” I just think that's interesting if they didn't.

Yes. They were shouting Allah Akbar through the video.

9 posted on 03/13/2011 8:42:59 AM PDT by fso301
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To: bitterohiogunclinger
Bingo. Anyone that thinks all these asshats are going to magically turn into peace loving responsible friends of the world is delusional.

Aside from not having a clue of who they would be helping, I think a lot of folks who want to rush right in and assist the Libyan rebels forget that Libya was the state sponsor of the attack that brought down Pan Am 103 (and ultimately the airline itself), killing 270 innocent people including 189 American citizens. Is there any doubt that some of the same people who planned and arranged this bombing were dancing in the streets when that happened and are the same people now crying for America's help? Screw Libya. Until Muslims world wide demonstrate a willingness to coexist peacefully the civilized western nations owe them nothing. It's their war. Let them fight it to the best of their ability. Let them spill their blood and spend their treasure. It's not worth one drop of American blood or one penny from our bankrupt Treasury to lend assistance to Muslim thugs in Libya.

10 posted on 03/13/2011 8:55:23 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Give them Stingers? Do that and they’ll be out in the Gulf of Sidra extorting money not to shoot down civilian airliners.


11 posted on 03/13/2011 8:56:48 AM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: riverrunner

Don’t want them to win, just want to see them shoot down some more Migs


12 posted on 03/13/2011 9:04:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: jmacusa

You are right, one Mig, One airliner.


13 posted on 03/13/2011 9:05:09 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Thermalseeker
That was Kadafi that orchestrated the Pan Am 103....

These are the anti-Kadafi forces.....

The people he brutally repressed....

Throwing them a little logistically support, intelligence info and maybe some shoulder held ground to air missiles would help even the score.... If these guy's win, Kadafi's head will be on a stick....

14 posted on 03/13/2011 9:29:46 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Sasparilla

Calling BS!

What is the likelihood that 2 relatively intact bodies would be found “next to” the unidentifiable pile of of burning junk?

Why didn’t they eject?

I think this is a propaganda clip and the explosion on the tape was ordinance delivered from the plane.


15 posted on 03/13/2011 9:29:50 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Joe Boucher

Arabs are inveterate thieves, they can’t help themselves.


16 posted on 03/13/2011 9:38:36 AM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: Leisler
Well, not that I doubt you, but there's always that lucky/unlucky shot.

Besides, neither the Libyan or the Syrian ejected.

Hmmm, maybe bad maintenance, and/or disabling of the
ejector mechanism? One of the other videos has the wreckage
of a plane from which the pilot ejected after refusing to attack civilians. Maybe the safety pins were tack-welded in place?

17 posted on 03/13/2011 9:49:36 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: nevergore
If these guy's win, Kadafi's head will be on a stick....

Maybe so, but who exactly are "these guys"? How do we know they aren't more radical that Daffy? Seems well established that the so-called "Muslim Brotherhood" are the ones stirring up all the unrest across the region and it's well known that they don't play nice. What gives us the right to interfere in a sovereign nation's civil war anyway? Not to mention the fact that we don't have the money to spend. Libya certainly deserves a level 5 ass whoopin' courtesy of the USA for their role in Pan Am 103, but it seems a little late to be going to that party.....

18 posted on 03/13/2011 9:52:00 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Calvin Locke

Arabs? Bad maintenance?

Why were would you ever get that idea?


19 posted on 03/13/2011 10:20:54 AM PDT by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: Calvin Locke

Twice a year half the battalion would go to Ft. Bliss, Tx, with their radar/optic 20mm Gatling guns. They’d line up seven or so, and a Korea era jet would fly parallel, towing on a LONG steel cable a banner that had sensors in it such that when a round went through it, it would know.

Back and forth went the jet with it’s banner. The gunners optically tracking it, and at the right moment, hitting a trigger which released control of the gun to the firing radar/computer. Seven guns, thousands of rounds each pass.
Hardly ever hit the banner.

Always lots of head scratching, calibrating, fiddling. I just read and slept in my medic jeep.


20 posted on 03/13/2011 10:26:25 AM PDT by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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