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Obamacareless: Nothing More Than A Socialist Power Grab
www.absolutelynobama.com ^ | 3/18/11 | Alan Levy

Posted on 03/17/2011 11:15:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama

Once in a while, the lazy and arrogant lamestream media gives us useful information, usually by accident. Today was one of those days. Let's take a look at these interesting morsels from the Associated Depressed:

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"U.S. life expectancy has hit another all-time high, rising above 78 years. The estimate of 78 years and 2 months is for a baby born in 2009, and comes from a preliminary report released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

About 2.4 million people died in the United States in 2009 — roughly 36,000 fewer deaths than the year before."

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"Death rates declined slightly for 10 of the 15 leading causes of death, including heart disease, cancer, stroke, accidents, Alzheimer's disease, homicide and influenza and pneumonia."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110316/ap_on_he_me/us_med_us_life_expectancy

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Well, gee, that's odd. Didn't the 2+2=5 Democrat party spend all of 2009 telling us how terrible health care was ? Let's take a stroll down Memory Hole Lane and look at some of the propaganda that the Dims spewed:

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"Well, the current health care system, the insurance companies, and those who support them are doing just that. ... Those fighting health care reform – not those debating its shape or its nuance – people who demand the status quo, they are killing 45,000 Americans a year."

---Keith Olbermann attacking talk show host Neil Boortz and anyone else who opposed Obamacareless. In this bout of mental illness, Olbermann claims to cite some study from Haw-Vard that stated 45,000 people die every year in the US because they lack health insurance. The funny thing is the study didn't come from the Pinkies Up Crowd at Haw-Vard. It came from a group called the Physicians for a National Health Program (PNHP), a left wing group dedicated to inflicting single payer health care on the United States.

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2010/20100106094400.aspx

"If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: Die quickly." ---FORMER Congressman Alan Grayson (C-FL) on the floor of the House of Representatives.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27726.html

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The bottom line is this: The Democrat Party is full of crap. Obamacareless in nothing more than a socialist power grab.

Yes, I know, I'm not being civil, I'm a partisan hack, blah, blah, blah, I hate the poor, yadda, yadda, yadda. But am I wrong ? According to the Associated Depressed, (Which is often like the Greek Chorus in the Democrat Party's Greek Tragedies, so this isn't exactly "Right Wing propaganda".) we're living longer, healthier lives. Now call me crazy and off my meds, but if the health care situation was as bad as the Commie Chicken Littles on the left would have you believe, wouldn't we be living shorter lives ? Wouldn't the deaths from heart disease, cancer, strokes, and the flu be on the rise and not on the decline ? Granted, it took me two tries and a whole lot of bribes to pass Statistics in college, but I know a mathematical trend when I see a see a mathematical trend.

Obamacareless is NOT about improving health care, it's about redistributing it. As the Wall Street Journal's Betsy McCaughey wrote in 2009:

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"The Congressional majority wants to pay for its $1 trillion to $1.6 trillion health bills with new taxes and a $500 billion cut to Medicare. This cut will come just as baby boomers turn 65 and increase Medicare enrollment by 30%. Less money and more patients will necessitate rationing. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only 1% of Medicare cuts will come from eliminating fraud, waste and abuse.

The assault against seniors began with the stimulus package in February. Slipped into the bill was substantial funding for comparative effectiveness research, which is generally code for limiting care based on the patient’s age. Economists are familiar with the formula, where the cost of a treatment is divided by the number of years (called QALYs, or quality-adjusted life years) that the patient is likely to benefit. In Britain, the formula leads to denying treatments for older patients who have fewer years to benefit from care than younger patients."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203517304574303903498159292.html

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In other words, Sarah Palin is right. The Dims want death panels that will determine who will live and who will die. (Yes, Medicare needs to be reformed, if not done away with altogether. However, it has to be done in a responsible manner that doesn't include some government bureaucrat like Donald Berwick pretending to be Josef Mengele.) If that isn't bad enough, Chairman Obama, Everyone's Least Favorite Kenyan Socialist, even openly admits that his hated health care plan is nothing more than a socialist wealth redistribution scam. Take it away, Alinskyite Prime:

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"No one in America should go broke because they get sick." ---Barack Hussein Obama

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/opinion/16obama.html

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Or in other words....

"From each according to his ability to each according to his need"---Karl Marx (With this addendum from the US Democrat Party: "Except for the old and sick. They can drop dead for all we care.")

God help us all.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; socialism; tyranny

1 posted on 03/17/2011 11:15:53 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Unfortunately, even after that, the Life expectancy in the US is still 50/51st in the world after all those death panel socialist countries.


2 posted on 03/17/2011 11:39:15 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

So ? I’d rather die a free man than have some UNELECTED bureaucrat make decisions about my life. (This is different from insurance companies, since I voluntarily enter an agreement with them. As of yet, this isn’t forced upon us.)


3 posted on 03/17/2011 11:51:47 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: Cardhu

The main point I was attempting to make is that the Dims are nothing more than lying dirt bags. I think this article proved it.

I’ll give you this: Some of the reasons why we’re so low on the chart is the fact that we eat like crap, a lot of us do drugs, a lot of us aren’t physically active, etc. (For the record: I eat like crap, and I get winded typing. I’m getting long in the tooth and proud of it.)

My last post to you may have come off harsh. I didn’t mean it to come off like that.


4 posted on 03/17/2011 11:59:07 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
The estimate of 78 years and 2 months is for a baby born in 2009, and comes from a preliminary report released Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

So, in the eyes of government, birth is a long-term disease.

5 posted on 03/18/2011 12:00:13 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
"No one in America should go broke because they get sick."

Under Obamacare they go broke before they get sick.

6 posted on 03/18/2011 12:05:06 AM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: theDentist

That is correcto-mundo!

Hmmmm....makes sense. Why do you think OBlahBlah the Kenyan Socialist appointed John Holdren (of the sterilants in drinking water to control population fame) to be his UNELECTED Science Czar ?


7 posted on 03/18/2011 12:08:29 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: oyez

Isn’t it amazing how the Hope and Che Guy seems think this line of thinking is mainstream ?


8 posted on 03/18/2011 12:12:21 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Actually, one of the reasons that we’re “50th or 51st” is our inability to control ourselves in regard to fast food and soda and the MAIN reason is we are OVER medicated.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 12:25:24 AM PDT by albie
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To: albie

No arguments there.


10 posted on 03/18/2011 12:30:21 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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To: Cardhu
You do realize that not all countries use the same metrics to calculate life expectancy, right? Some of the ones with the highest numbers don't include infant mortality, which definitely skews the figures. Here's an old but revealing document about the issue of life expectancy comparisons:

http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA547ComparativeHealth.html

11 posted on 03/18/2011 12:51:10 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Cardhu

“Life expectancy in the US is still 50/51st in the world after all those death panel socialist countries.”

The U.S. has the highest life expectancy in the world once you remove violent deaths, i.e., deaths due to auto accidents, homicides, suicides, injuries etc. Violent deaths may say something about the state of U.S. society, but they aren’t a particularly good indicator of the quality of our health care system.

We likewise lead the world in cancer survival rates for a broad range of cancers, and are consistently in the the top 3 countries in survival rates for newborns in various low birthweight categories (the only countries that beat us are small Scandinavian countries with far more homogenous—and generally healthier, lifestyle-wise—populations.

If it truly were the case that the best medical care were abroad, we would see wealthy high-profile patients such as Ted Kennedy or Tom Daschle’s brother going to Canada or Europe to get complicated brain surgeries. We would see high-level officials in Canada remaining in their own country for free care rather than flying to the U.S. and paying out of pocket to obtain better quality care.

In short, the life expectancy figures are a highly misleading indicator of where the U.S. health care system really stands in terms of overall performance.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 4:06:37 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Absolutely Nobama
Of course, "Obamacare" has absolutely nothing to do with the delivery of medical and nursing services.

By 2017, all of the new agencies will be thriving, the congressional GOP will be "on board" as their ability to reward their friends will explode, and medical and nursing services will be down the toilet.

Everything is proceeding according to plan.

13 posted on 03/18/2011 4:11:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: DrC
The U.S. has the highest life expectancy in the world once you remove violent deaths, i.e., deaths due to auto accidents, homicides, suicides, injuries etc.

And the best perinatal mortality once you remove the crack babies and the homicides.

14 posted on 03/18/2011 4:32:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I'd crawl over broken glass for her. Alea iacta est.)
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To: Jim Noble

“Everything is proceeding according to plan.”

$pooky Dude $oros’ plan ?


15 posted on 03/19/2011 12:10:43 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (NPR= Nazi Propaganda Radio)
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