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Why I Am a Male Feminist
Henry Louis Gates' "The Root" ^ | 16 March | Hurt

Posted on 03/21/2011 6:50:52 AM PDT by flowerplough

The word turns off a lot of men -- and women. But here's why black men should be embracing the "f" word.

"... Like most guys, I had bought into the stereotype that all feminists were white, lesbian, unattractive male bashers who hated all men. But after reading the work of these black feminists, I realized that this was far from the truth. After digging into their work, I came to really respect the intelligence, courage and honesty of these women.

Feminists did not hate men. In fact, they loved men. But just as my father had silenced my mother during their arguments to avoid hearing her gripes, men silenced feminists by belittling them in order to dodge hearing the truth about who we are.

I learned that feminists offered an important critique about a male-dominated society that routinely, and globally, treated women like second-class citizens. They spoke the truth, and even though I was a man, their truth spoke to me. Through feminism, I developed a language that helped me better articulate things that I had experienced growing up as a male.

Feminist writings about patriarchy, racism, capitalism and structural sexism resonated with me because I had witnessed firsthand the kind of male dominance they challenged. I saw it as a child in my home and perpetuated it as an adult. Their analysis of male culture and male behavior helped me put my father's patriarchy into a much larger social context, and also helped me understand myself better.

I decided that I loved feminists and embraced feminism. Not only does feminism give woman a voice, but it also clears the way for men to free themselves from the stranglehold of traditional masculinity. When we hurt the women in our lives, we hurt ourselves, and we hurt our community, too."

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Article difficult to excerpt from, and fyi, Byron Hurt "is an award-winning documentary filmmaker and anti-sexist activist".

Gist of piece is, "My daddy was mean to my mommy, and I cried with her. Yet later, I found myself just as cruel with women. I cried again, and then an activist group raised my consiousness."

1 posted on 03/21/2011 6:50:53 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

Sitzpinkler.


2 posted on 03/21/2011 6:53:05 AM PDT by cartan
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To: flowerplough

He should get his thyroid checked. It can really screw with a guy’s hormones.


3 posted on 03/21/2011 6:53:25 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
"He should get his thyroid checked. It can really screw with a guy’s hormones."

He's probably been popping potassium iodide between all the hand wringing for the last week. That'll play havoc with the thyroid. Of course it might just be 'man-o-pause'.

4 posted on 03/21/2011 6:56:55 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: flowerplough

He’s a male jackass.


5 posted on 03/21/2011 6:59:51 AM PDT by all the best
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To: flowerplough
Oh? A male feminist? Then you must support Sarah Palin, right? I mean, she's the strongest, most powerful, most influential woman in the country. You do support her, don't you? No?

Then I guess you're nothing but a communist.

6 posted on 03/21/2011 7:05:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: flowerplough

Capitalism is bad? Sounds like another leftist turd who joined the ‘feminist’ cause to be a sleazebag, get laid, and avoid paying child support. Of course, they love to refer to themselves as “enlightened” and “empathetic”. What a load of crock.

It was American capitalism of the 1850s, the corporations, the big producers who gave jobs and education to women. It was true feminism, not the leftist hate-mongering feminism of today. Even blacks could sometimes be treated with respect in northern factories. It was miraculous!

Meanwhile, the oppressive dictatorships of the third world still treat women like third-class citizens...slightly below the neighborhood hounds. The leftist vermin of the west took it one step further down the path of pure evil and made women so worthless that they should seek to become a man. Not even the broken cultures of the third world can match the dementia and evil of the leftist filth who walk among us.


7 posted on 03/21/2011 7:07:27 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: flowerplough

castrati whining.


8 posted on 03/21/2011 7:07:44 AM PDT by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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To: flowerplough

There’s a few of good ole boys in town who, when they get too loaded with booze, start spouting that they are Male Lesbians....it freaks out the PC feminists - fun to watch....


9 posted on 03/21/2011 7:12:03 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: flowerplough
Why I Am a Male Feminist

Because you're more than likely "puttin' from the rough." :-)

10 posted on 03/21/2011 7:13:15 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: flowerplough
Not only does feminism give woman a voice, but it also clears the way for men to free themselves from the stranglehold of traditional masculinity.

Permission to be a ball-less wimp.

Feminism is the sickness. Game is the cure. Christian men, learn game and use it on your women. It isn't just about picking up random women. It is about understanding women's irrationality, behavior, and powers of rationalization and using it to your advantage to get what you want. If you're a Christian, that should be a lifetime marriage and children. If you're a Christian man, you should not want a feminist woman. A feminist woman is tainted.

A feminist man is pathetic.

Feminism was developed to further Marxism by destroying the family. Feminism has seeped into about every aspect of our culture and is rotting it from the inside out.

Men should fight feminism with every tool available. Game is a good practical tool for thwarting feminism.

11 posted on 03/21/2011 7:15:09 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: flowerplough

12 posted on 03/21/2011 7:17:45 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: flowerplough

Bunch of crap. Second wave feminism is a curse on humanity.


13 posted on 03/21/2011 7:24:09 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: MichiganConservative

>> It is about understanding women’s irrationality, behavior...

LOL! I get your point, but that there’s a heavy load you’re layin’ on me, brother!


14 posted on 03/21/2011 7:24:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: flowerplough

Toilet seat’s always down in his/her house, I’ll bet. Future Phil Donahue.

I’m a male lesbian . . . got this thing for women . . .


15 posted on 03/21/2011 7:27:12 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: flowerplough

I was wondering what Alan Alda was doing lately...not!


16 posted on 03/21/2011 7:33:04 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: flowerplough
But here's why black men should be embracing the "f" word.

Failure?

17 posted on 03/21/2011 7:40:49 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: flowerplough

I’d like to see him call himself a male feminist in the middle of the ghetto. The black women over there would probably call him gay and start spitting out babies for the pants on the floor crowd.


18 posted on 03/21/2011 7:53:04 AM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: laweeks

You beat me to it. We must think alike.


19 posted on 03/21/2011 8:20:26 AM PDT by TStro
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To: flowerplough

What is this I don’t even


20 posted on 03/21/2011 8:21:29 AM PDT by chris37
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To: flowerplough
Like most guys, I had bought into the stereotype that all feminists were white, lesbian, unattractive male bashers who hated all men.

And then he discovered that a few of them aren't white.

21 posted on 03/21/2011 8:29:53 AM PDT by Our man in washington
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To: flowerplough; All
Why is the word FEMINIST always a bad word? To me and according to the dictionary, it has nothing to do with hating men. Why do some people feel they need to connect those two together? To make it seem like a bad thing??
It means equal rights for women. A GOOD THING!!!!
22 posted on 03/21/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Fawn
It means equal rights for women.

Which of the first 9 Amendments to the Constitution don't apply to women?

Thanks in advance.

23 posted on 03/21/2011 8:57:10 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Fawn
To make it seem like a bad thing?? It means equal rights for women. A GOOD THING!!!!

is this rhetorical? many words and phrases do not mean, in this day and age, what they meant originally... when we use the word feminist or feminism today we know what those words now stand for...

24 posted on 03/21/2011 9:04:41 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: latina4dubya
when we use the word feminist or feminism today we know what those words now stand for...

Which is what?

25 posted on 03/21/2011 9:08:55 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Fawn

Yeah, sure. You women want equal rights. Until it suits you to be treated like a child. Then you want to be treated like a child. Feminists pass laws that treat men like responsible adults and women like irresponsible children, thus creating an uneven playing field tipped in favor of women. That’s the fruit of feminism. That is one of the reasons why feminism is evil.


26 posted on 03/21/2011 9:09:05 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Not sure I can follow that dribble....but got an example woman hater?


27 posted on 03/21/2011 9:14:45 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Lurker
Which of the first 9 Amendments to the Constitution don't apply to women?

Why the need for this 'feminist' article? Did women always get the same pay for the same work and have the right to vote?

28 posted on 03/21/2011 9:18:27 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Fawn

Ha HA HA. Woman hater? I knew I would get that one sometime on this thread. What’s next? Will you refuse to have sex with me?

Have you looked into domestic violence laws recently? The man is assumed to be the aggressor and arrested in a lot of places.

Basically, all you have to do is tell a woman something she doesn’t agree with and you’re a woman-hater or a misogynist.

Gonna call me racist or homophobic next?


29 posted on 03/21/2011 9:18:41 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: flowerplough

I’m pro-feminist because my wife sez so...


30 posted on 03/21/2011 9:21:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: flowerplough
And now it's time for . . .


31 posted on 03/21/2011 9:23:19 AM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Fawn
id women always get the same pay for the same work and have the right to vote?

Thanks for the unintentional example of why universal suffrage is a bad idea.

32 posted on 03/21/2011 9:25:59 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: MichiganConservative

Why don’t you quit making gutter remarks (re: sex with you) and give me an example —as was all I asked for.


33 posted on 03/21/2011 9:27:47 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Fawn

I did. Do you have a reading comprehension problem?


34 posted on 03/21/2011 9:29:21 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: Fawn

In practice, feminist means “equal rights for women” like communist means “doesn’t hog the good toys and shares his cookies at snacktime”.

And if we’re using the dictionary, Fawn, let’s start early in the book. Abortion. What do you feminists say abortion means?


35 posted on 03/21/2011 9:30:21 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: MichiganConservative

The man is the aggressor? That’s it? You think it’s an even charge huh?


36 posted on 03/21/2011 9:34:44 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Hoodat

I liked the time on that show when they were passing around a petition to women to “end women’s suffrage,” and all the bimbos who were signing it.


37 posted on 03/21/2011 9:37:27 AM PDT by big black dog
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To: Fawn

What are you spouting off about? I think your rationalization hamster must be impairing you somehow.


38 posted on 03/21/2011 9:40:55 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: flowerplough

This is what I’m talking about. In your world, or practice, it might mean that. But, why limit and add the word ‘feminist’ to the same sentence regarding the abortion issue? Some men also feel that way about abortion. By linking those two words together, you are steering away from the simple dictionary explanation of ‘feminist’. Maybe add the word ‘radical’ to feminist?


39 posted on 03/21/2011 9:42:04 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: flowerplough

He got his mind right and now his purse matches his shoes.


40 posted on 03/21/2011 9:44:42 AM PDT by Blogatron (Brought to you by The American Frog Council; 'Frog - The other green meat')
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To: Fawn
Which is what?

well, there is this: the belief that there are fundamental inequalities built in to a capitalist society because power and capital are distributed unevenly. Thus, it's not enough for women to individually work to rise to powerful positions in society; rather, power needs to be redistributed throughout society.

and there is this: the need for dramatic social change in order to achieve genuine equality for women. Radical feminists believe that society is extremely patriarchal, and until patriarchy is transformed on all levels, the system will remain unjust. A minority of radical feminists are separatist feminists, who believe that men and women need to maintain separate institutions and relationships.

if feminism today were all about "equality" like you say it is, feminists would not hate Sarah Palin... in fact, they would admire her... she picked herself up by her boot straps and worked her way from the PTA to Governor of Alaska, to VP nominee... she didn't benefit from her husband paving the way for her or from any other relationship... (as Hillary Clinton did benefit from her husband)... but they can't stand her... why? because she's not a socialist... she's not pro-abortion... worst of all, she is a Christian... wife and mother...

41 posted on 03/21/2011 9:45:25 AM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: big black dog

Women’s suffrage over time

By John R. Lott, Jr.

“If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen.”

—Ann Coulter, Oct. 2, 2007, New York Observer

...Academics have long pondered why the government started growing precisely when it did. The federal government, aside from periods of wartime, consumed about 2 percent to 3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) up until World War I. It was the first war that the government spending didn’t go all the way back down to its pre-war levels, and then, in the 1920s, non-military federal spending began steadily climbing. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal — often viewed as the genesis of big government — really just continued an earlier trend. What changed before Roosevelt came to power that explains the growth of government? The answer is women’s suffrage.

For decades, polls have shown that women as a group vote differently than men. Without the women’s vote, Republicans would have swept every presidential race but one between 1968 and 2004.

The gender gap exists on various issues. The major one is the issue of smaller government and lower taxes, which is a much higher priority for men than for women. This is seen in divergent attitudes held by men and women on many separate issues. Women were much more opposed to the 1996 federal welfare reforms, which mandated time limits for receiving welfare and imposed some work requirements on welfare recipients. Women are also more supportive of Medicare, Social Security and educational expenditures.

Studies show that women are generally more risk averse than men. Possibly, this is why they are more supportive of government programs to ensure against certain risks in life. Women’s average incomes are also slightly lower and less likely to vary over time, which gives single women an incentive to prefer more progressive income taxes. Once women become married, however, they bear a greater share of taxes through their husbands’ relatively higher income. In that circumstance, women’s support for high taxes understandably declines.

Marriage also provides an economic explanation for men and women to prefer different policies. Because women generally shoulder most of the child-rearing responsibilities, married men are more likely to acquire marketable skills that help them earn money outside the household. If a man gets divorced, he still retains these skills. But if a woman gets divorced, she is unable to recoup her investment in running the household. Hence, single women who believe they may marry in the future, as well as married women who most fear divorce, look to the government as a form of protection against this risk from a possible divorce: a more progressive tax system and other government transfers of wealth from rich to poor.

The more certain a woman is that she doesn’t risk divorce, the more likely she is to oppose government transfers.

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/WashTimesWomensSuff112707.html


42 posted on 03/21/2011 9:49:06 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: flowerplough

Wow, look at that. Women and men behave differently. Maybe it’s because men and women are different. Maybe equality is nothing but a myth.


43 posted on 03/21/2011 9:55:23 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Letting Obama supporters vote is like giving a loaded gun to a child with severe mental retardation.)
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To: Fawn

You say the dictionary definition of feminism shows feminism’s benefit, I contend that the proof is the practice. Feminists, including you, I assume, promote abortion, except the sex-selective abortion of unborn females. Not in the dictionary, I suppose, but a fun feminist fact, eh?


44 posted on 03/21/2011 9:56:17 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: Fawn
Why the need for this 'feminist' article?

Because it illustrates just how testicle-impaired the writer is and it repeats the long litany of bogus assertions by the Feminazi crowd.

Did women always get the same pay for the same work

"Did" is irrelevant. They do now, mostly, and studies back it up.

As far as the entire right to vote thing goes I'll go on record as saying that issue should be revisited. Far too many people have the Franchise these days and it's killing our Republic.

45 posted on 03/21/2011 9:59:14 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: flowerplough

I was around when the sixties feminists started making noise. And the noise I heard was definitely anti-male. It was also anti-America. Most of the loudest, loud-mouthed feminists sounded extremely angry and a great number turned out to be lesbians. Another thing, many of these harpies came from well-to-do families, graduates of elite colleges who were given everything by their parents which I assume included their daddies. The facts are: most of these people were angry, unhappy, maladjusted, leftist shriekers. Think Andrea Dworkin. There were/are a lot of feminists just like her.


46 posted on 03/21/2011 10:04:01 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: latina4dubya
I think you are referring to quota's or redistribution in your first paragraph...that's a liberal ideology. I don't see how that action attaches itself to a woman who believes in the right to equality. If a man works his way up the ladder, then a woman should be able to do it too...period. Anything further would be a liberals push.
...and you did pretty good in the second paragraph adding 'radical' in there....but then again, there are men who feel the same way with the equality issue...and you would of really made the argument using the word 'liberals' here....and with your 'Sarah Palin' argument, instead of the word 'feminist' you also need to change that to 'hypocritical liberal women'. I would think that most women who believe in equal pay/the right to vote (my definition of feminists) would praise Sarah Palin. But, I think all Liberals or Radical-anything would hate her.
47 posted on 03/21/2011 10:15:11 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Soothesayer

“It was American capitalism of the 1850s, the corporations, the big producers who gave jobs and education to women.”

It was the Reformers who gave education to women. In America, it began with Puritan fathers, who were notorious for doting on their daughters. Again, in early America, women in general were always literate and so were the men.

Feminism is just the ladies’ auxillary for various forms of socialism.


48 posted on 03/21/2011 10:23:52 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Lurker
As far as the entire right to vote thing goes I'll go on record as saying that issue should be revisited. Far too many people have the Franchise these days and it's killing our Republic.

Really now. 'nuff said then.

49 posted on 03/21/2011 10:24:07 AM PDT by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Fawn
Really now.

Really really.

Never in History has a 'warm body democracy' lasted more than a hundred years or so without tearing itself apart in slaughter and ruin. We're living right at the cusp of that now.

51% of the people have realized that they can vote themselves 'free' stuff from the other 49%. How long do you think that can last?

So why don't you take that gigantic chip of your pretty little shoulder sweety and take a few minutes to think, I mean really think about what I said before you consign me to the heap of crotch scratching neanderthal mysogonists.

50 posted on 03/21/2011 10:32:25 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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