Posted on 03/24/2011 1:36:48 AM PDT by Scanian
I think we need a non-political person to take the reins of our Presidency & turn it around.
Yes!! Donald Trump has baggage; but it is out in the open thanks to the MSM.
We need a savvy man who is not afraid to do what is right for our Country!!
Trump Just might fit the bill..... I would not mind seeing a ticket with
Trump/Palin
They are both “intelligent strong” people!!...... They both Love Our Country!!
I think the MSM would
continue to chew up Palin if she ran on her own.
Many people are against Palin thanks to the MSM..... Thanks to the Obama
Administration who tried to destroy her.
As for using the the Soetoro name as an adult, someone earlier on this thread asserted that he used it at Occidental, and I replied with a requested for support for this assertion. We’ll see if it is forthcoming.
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http://yeswecanimpeachobamanow.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/life-and-times-of-obama-time-line-1961-2008/
“Probably in late 1980, Obama decides to stop using the name Barry Soetoro and returns to the name Barack Obama, Jr. [194]”
Original source (now 404):
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/barry_obama_newsweek/2008/03/24/82747.html
From FR:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2173340/posts
“It is clear that the students at Occidental did not know Barry Soetoro by the name of OBAMA. Instead he was using his Indonesian name and passport. This story cleverly hides the fact that the confusion came not from the first name Barry or Barack, but because of the LAST NAME Soetoro vs. Obama. “
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29
“isn’t shy about claiming him as an alumnus for his two years there (1979-81) on full scholarship.”
REPEAT - ON FULL SCHOLARSHIP. How? He supposedly did not have good grades at all in high school. It was not athletic...but a full scholarship? How?
Also there are 999-99-xxxx social security numbers associated with his name while Occidental. These are numbers usually used by foreign nationals who do not have valid Social Security numbers.
But he was definitely Barry OBAMA in HS:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/01/18/292361/-Obamas-High-School-yearbook-picture
So he switches from Obama BACK to Soetoro??? Why go ‘backwards’...
Either:
a) to get foreign money scholarship or...
b) maybe that is what his BC real COLB said as expatguy has said here and in his blog. Since you probably need your BC records to apply for college his records say Soetoro - due to the adoption before he was 5 years old. So he has register as Soetoro because officially - it is who he is on the paperwork - at least in 1979.
‘b)’ above goes counter to my theory that in 1971 the grandparents would have cleaned up all issues of nationality, citizenship and guardianship. But maybe they did not.
We 'are' speaking of Rubio, right? And think. ..we are on the same page. (All to say: he (?); 'certainly can' what?)
...of parentS who were its citizensThis would be a better use of the $$$ than the current "Where's the birth certificate" posters.
WND does not seem interested in facts so much as marketing a tantalizing conspiracy. It has always been puzzling. Jerome Corsi and Joe Farah seemed tireless in pursuit of a truth they will most likely never be able to verify, while never mentioning Barry's British father, and his lack allegiance to our nation of laws. Where he was born was McCain's transgression, one seen by many as an unfortunate technicality, since McCain's allegiance was never doubted. Barry's allegiance IS the problem; one which greatly concerned our founders and framers.
I like your billboard - short, while conveying the critical invalidating issue. Never known for my concision, I wanted to use Bingham's focus on allegiance, and thought of:
Did his parents 'not owe allegiance to any foreign sovereignty?'
I know. Only the well informed will understand. John Marshall was remarkable for coming directly to the point, as was Vattel, the source for Marshall, and your billboard.
Marco certainly knows the definition of natural born Citizen. If he explains his ineligibility he exposes the Republican party, who will have to contend with having not challenged Obama. They didn't challenge in 2008 because that would have ended McCain's campaign. Hillary was stronger than anyone we had. Some think we ‘threw’ the election, giving McCain little chance of winning, and knowing that Obama could always be removed because of his ineligibility, assuming he didn't show enough of his Marxism to alienate most voters.
Neither Rubio or Jindal are willing to address the issue, nor is the mainstream media willing to ask the question with enough clarity to expose the Constitutional issue.
Do they know? Sure they do. Search for some of the articles from 2008 exposing McCain's eligibility battles, and law suits. The NYT knows. The WaPo knows. Read Arizona Professor Gabriel Chin's detailed explanation of McCain's legal situation. They had him cold, and that protected Obama from being vetted, which was clearly in violation of the Equal Protection provision. McCain, of course, had been the subject of half a dozen hearings, including Senate Actions, SB 2678 and SR 511, in Feb and April of 2008. All SR, a non-actionable resolution, "we all agree it would be nice if...", did was declare a sense of the Senate. McCain was never declared legally eligible, and Obama was never examined - quite deliberately because a dozen supreme court justices have used and explained the definition, the common-law definition, for natural born Citizen. Most definitions in the Constitution are from our common law, and our common language.
Every senator signed SR 511, agreeing that being born of two citizen parents is the requirement for natural born Citizenship. Obama’s constitutional law professor, Larry Tribe, the one who got his plagiarism covered at Harvard by Elene Kagan, wrote a letter about McCain's problems, better politics than law, which is in the Senate Archives. They left off the contentious issue for McCain, his not having been born on sovereign U.S. territory.
I agree that the issue should be resolved by amendment or a clarification, which is what Claire McCaskill and Obama sneered at, probably threatened, when they sponsored SB 2678, “A Bill to Insure that Foreign Born Children of Military Citizens are Eligibile to be President.” Did they not know that statures, laws, cannot amend the Constitution? Of course they did. What purpose then does drawing attention to McCain's eligibility issue serve? They were saying, we won't say anything more if you keep the Republicans quiet about Barry. They all know. Jindal and Rubio know. They don't want to be at the center of the firestorm which will be the excuse every legislator gives for not protecting the Constitution.
Marco certainly knows the definition of natural born Citizen. If he explains his ineligibility he exposes the Republican party, who will have to contend with having not challenged Obama. They didn't challenge in 2008 because that would have ended McCain's campaign. Hillary was stronger than anyone we had. Some think we ‘threw’ the election, giving McCain little chance of winning, and knowing that Obama could always be removed because of his ineligibility, assuming he didn't show enough of his Marxism to alienate most voters.
Neither Rubio or Jindal are willing to address the issue, nor is the mainstream media willing to ask the question with enough clarity to expose the Constitutional issue.
Do they know? Sure they do. Search for some of the articles from 2008 exposing McCain's eligibility battles, and law suits. The NYT knows. The WaPo knows. Read Arizona Professor Gabriel Chin's detailed explanation of McCain's legal situation. They had him cold, and that protected Obama from being vetted, which was clearly in violation of the Equal Protection provision. McCain, of course, had been the subject of half a dozen hearings, including Senate Actions, SB 2678 and SR 511, in Feb and April of 2008. All SR, a non-actionable resolution, "we all agree it would be nice if...", did was declare a sense of the Senate. McCain was never declared legally eligible, and Obama was never examined - quite deliberately because a dozen supreme court justices have used and explained the definition, the common-law definition, for natural born Citizen. Most definitions in the Constitution are from our common law, and our common language.
Every senator signed SR 511, agreeing that being born of two citizen parents is the requirement for natural born Citizenship. Obama’s constitutional law professor, Larry Tribe, the one who got his plagiarism covered at Harvard by Elene Kagan, wrote a letter about McCain's problems, better politics than law, which is in the Senate Archives. They left off the contentious issue for McCain, his not having been born on sovereign U.S. territory.
I agree that the issue should be resolved by amendment or a clarification, which is what Claire McCaskill and Obama sneered at, probably threatened, when they sponsored SB 2678, “A Bill to Insure that Foreign Born Children of Military Citizens are Eligibile to be President.” Did they not know that statures, laws, cannot amend the Constitution? Of course they did. What purpose then does drawing attention to McCain's eligibility issue serve? They were saying, we won't say anything more if you keep the Republicans quiet about Barry. They all know. Jindal and Rubio know. They don't want to be at the center of the firestorm which will be the excuse every legislator gives for not protecting the Constitution.
Yes.
No, Jindal can not.
The most intriguing case to me is Romney’s. George Romney was born into a Mormon community in Mexico to American parents. Some argue that makes Mitt not a NBC, since his father was a dua citizen.
Anybody have any light to shed on the Romney NBC situation?
Thanks
I can certainly understand a focus being on obtaining a legally valid and authenticated BC as a first step, for without it we are left speculating on the issue. At this point we are operating on the assumption that BHO, Sr. as a parent renders the child NOT an NBC. We are assuming that BHO, Sr. is a parent based on literary works, campaign website content, and a widely invalidated COLB posting on the Internet. Without real proof of this assumption, we are left in the starting blocks in terms of an NBC discussion. Perhaps that is the real reason that none has been forthcoming. (There may be valid & legal proof of this narrative (BHO, Sr. & SAD as parents & Hawaiian birth) available somewhere, but until it is unearthed or presented, the NBC discussion is left pending.)
I just get frustrated reading/hearing all of the blather in the media in which the NBC discussion is never even mentioned. It has gotten to the point where the term isn't even used in most discussions (or it is bastardized in some way like "native citizen").
We can debate these things ad infinitum but they cry out for SCOTUS to rule.
For better or worse, they are the arbiters of the Constitution and they owe the American people a ruling on the natural born citizen issue.
Opinions are like you-know-what. We all have one but what is it really worth? One man’s opinion is just that-—one man’s opinion.
I am full of them and I am told all the time that I am full of crap also. The debate is getting stale.
So let’s hear from the gang in the black robes.
We have knocked ourselves out to elect presidents who would appoint conservative Justices. Now it’s time to get the payoff. On NBC, Obamacare...any number of things.
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