Posted on 03/26/2011 3:22:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
A coalition of peculiar media forces apparently led by Donald Trump appear to be working to make President Barack Obama’s birth certificate a major 2012 campaign issue, and all signs point to Sean Hannity hopping on the bandwagon. After dedicating a significant amount of time on his radio show earlier this week to the matter, he brought it up once again on TV in the context of Trump’s potential 2012 bid, calling the entire ordeal ‘odd.’
The discussion began on his “Great American Panel,” where Republican strategist Dee Dee Benkie was urging viewers not to completely dismiss Trump as a viable presidential candidate. This allowed Hannity to bring up the birth certificate, which Trump had been demanding to see, and Hannity noted merely asking the question had helped Trump’s poll numbers: “he’s now in a tie for 5th place, two points behind Sarah Palin.” Panelist Ron Daniels scoffed at the idea that being anywhere near Palin on the polls was a good thing, and dismissed the idea that Trump even wanted to be President. “It’s a publicity stunt,” he concluded.
But Hannity was far more interested in pursuing President Obama’s birthplace struggles, wondering aloud yet again why the President has yet to produce a long-form birth certificate. He took his now-typical line of attack, noting that Dick Cheney had to prove his residency and that President Chester A. Arthur had one attorney after him proclaiming he was born in either Ireland or Canada. That said, Hannity clarified that he personally had no questions as to whether the President was American, but he did not consider himself a worthy arbiter of that.
Legal analyst Peter Johnson agreed that “there is a way to put this to bed”– showing a birth certificate that would be adequate to those who believe the conspiracy– and that the White House has not produced said certificate raised questions. Daniels objected, noting correctly that the White House in fact has published President Obama’s birth certificate several times, but the copy presented was not sufficient. To that, Hannity concluded the discussion articulating what many exposed to the birther debate regularly lament: “let’s get out of this. This is stupid.”
The segment via Fox News below:
(VIDEO AT LINK)
There are times when everyone has to produce their BC.
It took gravitas from Trump to get hannity off the schneide. No kudo for hannity.
With the exception of Barry Soetoro.
Even possibly better than the Birth Cert. would be Obama’s college transcripts. These would show his P.O.B and if he were registered as a foreign student.
Now that states are passing legislation requiring that BCs be submitted prior to getting on the ballots no one has to ask anymore. Urkel will have to put up or not run just like every other candidate.
I won’t be surprised to find that when his numbers reach rock bottom which will come when the disaster he is courting in Libya blows up in his face, the Court throws out the Healthcare destruction bill and the economy continues to limp along on the edge of collapse he will decide not to run.
And the real reason will be the inability to produce a BC.
Do you suppose that the big boys have developed a foolproof story to “explain” the eligibility dilemma and now the green light is given to those on the “responsible right” to start talking about a birth certificate?
I feel we’re being set up.
At this point Obama and Soros probably have a forged long-form birth certificate.
Donald Trump, long-time Democrat and supporter of Democrat candidates, is a part of the set-up.
The multiple social security numbers, madrasa files, college records, and citizenship of Papa are all more interesting “questions” but everything’s been focused (intentionally, I believe) on the birth certificate, as if that is the be all and end all. Narrow the field of inquiry, cast the curious as nutcases, and play for time.
Trump's ego is so big I can't grasp him in that role-but it appears that is what is happening. - Tom
A stalking horse is a person who tests a concept with someone or mounts a challenge against them on behalf of an anonymous third party.
If the idea proves viable and/or popular, the anonymous figure can then declare their interest and advance the concept with little risk of failure.
If the concept fails, the anonymous party will not be tainted by association and can either drop the idea completely or bide their time and wait until a better moment for launching an attack.
Or Trump, a long-time Hillary supporter and donor, is this year’s Philip Berg, esq. or Linda Starr perhaps?
Imagine buying from a used car dealer who’s telling you that you are nuts to insist in seeing a CARFAX report and then having him spend money to make sure I cannot get it elsewhere on my own?
about time
I remember trump saying he loves obama and will vote for him
I agree. Trump is either being used or volunteered to help out.
Makes sense.
The Emperor has no clothes. Suddenly, everyone has noticed.
I’m 55 years old and I can instantly produce my birth certificate.....the aging original.
What I’ve said consistently on these B.C. threads is the same thing, over and over: I believe in Occam’s Razor; the simplest explanation is usually correct. Someone who hides something has something to hide. Period. End of argument.
Then we'd have a real race on our hands.
Similarly, if a long-form birth certificate were made public, people who denied that was real could be labeled “conspiracy theorists”.
However, simply pointing out the fact that no birth certificate has been produced, and asking to see one, does not make one a conspiracy theorist. There should be no stigma attached to simply asking for proof of eligibility for the office held.
Agree, Too many real questions for there to be specific focus on the BC. I want it all looked at because I think it all ties together in the end.
The real conspiracy theorists are those that think he has it and is playing a game.
I hate to think this, but is Donald Trump really the only possible GOP candidate with the stones to question Obama’s birth certificate? I know that Romney is a fake conservative, but I expect more from Pawlenty, Palin, and even my boy Herman Cain. Atleast Huckabee was willing to go there. At this point, anyone with any sense knows this is a valid issue and that something stinks here.
There is more than just the birth certificate though I tend to think it is just as likely the real/true original certificate is in a Kenya hospital as in an Hawaii hospital. Be that as it might there is the related fact that his father was absolutely not(by his own admission) a USA citizen along with the fact that at birth his mother was to young to pass on citizenship to Obama. If Trump is really serios about Obama’s history he should be raising these facts for uncovering/erasing his quandry.
There is more than just the birth certificate though I tend to think it is just as likely the real/true original certificate is in a Kenya hospital as in an Hawaii hospital. Be that as it might there is the related fact that his father was absolutely not(by his own admission) a USA citizen along with the fact that at birth his mother was to young to pass on citizenship to Obama. If Trump is really serios about Obama’s history he should be raising these facts for uncovering/erasing his quandry.
Wait,,, what???
We're conspiracy theorist for not believing in a conspiracy? WTH---Over!??!
My daughter, born in SoCal, was required to produce her long form birth certificate for a passport. She had the short form, certified copy but the Passport Office told her that people born in California, along with several other border states were now required to produce the long form. The short form is no longer considered sufficient proof of place of birth.
I was not aware of any state having passed such legislation. I know that several have given serious consideration but they all would, if passed, apply starting with 2016 election. Thus Barry gets a free ride.
Nobody will be allowed to prevent Obama from running and nobody will be aloud to unseat him due to his constitutional ineligibility because to do so, the country would immediately be consumed with racially and class motivated civil war,
Whats up? Notice no anti birthers on this thread yet and I also noticed it on a couple others. Interesting aint it. In the past they were in in about 20 post’s
But Hannity was far more interested in pursuing President Obama’s birthplace struggles,......
"birthplace struggles????????" LOL! Another Communist "kinetic labeling" that misses the target by a few miles!
Honorable long ping list, any of you have "birthplace struggles", please come forward!
“Kinetik birthplace” for a citizen of the world, is much better, confusing term! I advised 0h0m0llah to use this engineering, intellectual term, no need to no stinkin’ “war,” which he misspelled because of public AA education.
Papa Alinsky, LMAO because of the mistakes of them Communists-in-training...I'll fire Cass Sunstein who should have regulated this embarrassing crap!
In the book titled "Propaganda and Persuasion" by Garth Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell they explain the methodology of Joseph Goebbels, Hitler's chief propagandist, in his defense of Hitler. Goebbels used some cardinal rules for successful propaganda from Hitler's Mein Kampf.
Here are some of the rules that Goebbels put into operation, in defending Hitler.
Avoid abstract ideas and appeal instead to the emotions
The American People voted Barack into office, let’s move on.
Constant repetition of just a few ideas, using stereotyped phrases and avoiding objectivity.
“…the White House in fact has published President Obama’s “birth certificate” several times, but the copy presented was not sufficient..”
Put forth only one side of the argument
The White House continues to repeat the lie that a “birth certificate” was released. When a journalist confronted Robert Gibbels to release the document that lists the hospital and delivering doctor the White House press secretary ridiculed him while the room filled with willing presstitutes did nothing.
Constantly criticize enemies of the state
These people will never be happy. This birth certificate is all about an African-American becoming President and people are not happy about that.
Identify one special enemy for special vilification
All together now . . . . . . BIRTHERS!
GOSH! Great News!
When the Airhead, Hannity, finally takes on the issue of Obozo’s Birth, it can only mean Hannity finally understands he can’t cover up the total Abberation and Terrorist that Obozo and his Controllers are anymore!
Thank GOD for Donald Trump stepping forward and calling a Spade a Spade!
RUN DONALD, RUN! DONALD FOR PRESIDENT, 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have one question for the “late to the dance” Sean and others....
what the hell took you so long? AS SOON AS they rammed/pushed through Obamacare against the will of the majority of Americans...
he and they should have already been asking....
who the hell is this guy and more to the point....
who the hell does he “think” he is????
Where’s the conspiracy in asking for a birth certificate? Please explain.
I’m not in the WND weeds. In fact I’m a late-comer, only getting real curious after Gov Abercrombie came up empty. That’s when it came on my radar.
But again, what is conspiratorial about wanting to see a BC?
I always believed and posted that he won't dare run.
PSYCHOkinetic-the purported ability to move or DEFORM inanimate objects-—like dead braincells.
“Now, that is a conspiracy theory.”
You’re very right. I’ve been researching Obama’s background since March, 2008, and I cannot explain why so many people are willing and ready to cover for this man.
Dr. Polland recognized the forged COLBs that summer of 2008.
B.H. Obama II said on one of his online sites BEFORE the election that he was registered, by his father, as a British subject shortly after birth.
Obama II is a British subject and not a U.S. citizen.
He has spent a great deal of money keeping his records, almost all of this records, out of the public eye.
At this point my research has narrowed his birth to either Kenya or Vancouver, BC (Canada).
He doesn’t have a long form birth certificate from Hawaii and never has had one.
Why he hasn’t been in trouble for producing a forged government document (the Hawaiian Department of Health COLB) is beyond me. If anyone else had done so, I’m sure they would have been charged with a felony. Obama seems capable of getting away with committing crimes.
Therefore I won’t be surprised when a forged Hawaiian birth certificate suddenly appears.
Good comparison!
Good comparison!
“the country would immediately be consumed with racially and class motivated civil war,”
We are already in such a war. Without bullets.
Blacks would have to CHOOSE whether they are actually citizens or freeloaders who suck the lifeblood from citizens. Or both.
Or neither. And if they are neither, then we’d best be about such a war and get this over with. As it stands, we will be arguing about this for a long time, with the split growing wider and deeper. Odd legacy for a ‘post-racial’ man who would be President. He has acted as anything but Presidential. And certainly not in the best interests of the US.
The Cloward-Piven goal is to overwhelm the system.
Mission accomplished!
B..Bu..But Ted Baxter maintains that birthers are every bit as loony as truthers. So will the leprechaun now denounce Hannity as an extremist wingnut?
Waiting...
I yelled at GOP caller just the other day about this. YELLED at her.
THey will have no country. Our children will die in squalor worthy of the slums of Jakarta.
Forged documents, even the most professionally done, are easily detectable by experts.
That is why only originals are accepted aprovidence in a Court of Law. Forensic experts can determine within a reasonable doubt authenticity by age testing paper, ink, handwriting analysis for signatures, & comparison woth contemporaneous documents.
Remember the GWB/Dan Rather kerfuffel?
Busted by a blogger!
“Then we’d have a real race on our hands.”
Seeing as how we don’t really know what race obi-da-wan really is...aren’t you being a little racist in suggesting we have one...or would have one...or something? I am not even sure what a “real” race is anymore.
Myself, I think he is an dislamian from the planet dislamia and perhaps race has nothing to do with it. Mayhap we should be trying to ascertain species instead. They prolly don’t do birth as we know it. Hence, no birth certificate. That would explain everything.
Does that make me specist?
He may well have been born at a home for unwed mothers over the border in British Columbia. The only place where Stanley Ann has ever been seen with a newborn is Seattle, where she was enrolled in college.
This story fits Occam’s Razor. The only problem is that he was not a U.S. citizen, so how did he get driver’s licenses and a passport? As a little boy he was taken to Indonesia and given Indonesian citizenship by his stepfather (or adoptive father?). Was he then naturalized thereafter in Hawaii when Mom got sick of him and dumped him again?
Or was he never naturalized? How did he ever get his American citizenship if he really was born outside of the country?
On a personal note, I had a baby in a foreign country. I IMMEDIATELY obtained American citizenship for him as it was a high priority for me. His American BC is not on file anywhere; we have it stored safely. We were told that this would be his only copy, period - the one the embassy gave us. So if my son were to run for President (dear G-d. please no), no one could look up and find his long form on file either, anywhere. Just like Abercrombie tried to find Barack’s. It’s not there — he was not born in HI.
LOL! That is different from PSYCHOkineti(K), which is an akt to konfuse the kommoners.
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