I feel we’re being set up.
At this point 0bama and Soros probably have a forged long-form birth certificate.
Donald Trump, long-time Democrat and supporter of Democrat candidates, is a part of the set-up.
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Posted on 03/26/2011 3:22:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Agreed. Let’s see the LFBC. That’s all I care about. But I’m a late-comer. I don’t have a lot invested in this issue.
I believe we are winning the public debate with the simple statement of “Show The Birth Certificate.”
All the other stuff can be debated after the fact.
Welcome aboard. Now we’re three and I’m sure there’ll be more!
There is always a seat at the crow dinner table.
I like it baked!
So have I. And when Hillary was the only one speaking about the Libya deal, I thought that said something.
The key point for me was that O’Reilly did not jump in and denounce Trump and declare that Obama had “already released the BC and my investigators saw it and there were newspaper announcements of the birth”...none of that from O’Reilly!
Where Soetoro was born is only part of the issue. Even if he was born in Hawaii, did he give up his citizenship or is he a dual citizen? There’s a reason all his records are sealed.
Hannity played the Trump tape on Wed and Thursday and then came back again on Friday as this thread discusses.
What this says to me is that Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdock have given the green light for their prime time talent to go after this issue.
Trump may have given them the excuse to cover Trump talking about it, but now Hannity is going after it full-bore.
Hannity is close to Mark Levin and I wonder how long it will take before Levin green lights discussion of the lack of 1961 BC on his program.
Timing is everything and the tipping point may have been reached for the GOP elite (wired into Ailes) to approve attacking Obama on this issue now that over 50% in key electoral demographics not only understand the issue but are getting angry that the GOP won't hasn't touched it.
It is fast getting to be too late for the Democrats to replace Obama as a candidate for 2012 if the pressure on the BC builds to a peak in the fall.
Obama is a nightmare...illegitimate in every way, and I blame the voters who put this fraud on his throne to do the damage he has done.
Fo shizzle!
Even if the requirement laws are passed, I predict that they will be struck down by leftist activist (I know, that’s redundant) judges, in mass, at the last minute, thus getting his name on the 2012 ballot.
One interesting aspect of lunatic fringe, right wing, conspiracy theories, is that there is an equal but opposite group of lunatic fringe, left wing, conspirators who actually believe the theories will work.
Hold on...it may be talked about...but it has not and will not be passed in any state. We need to just accept the fact that he got away with it and concentrate our efforts on defeating him.
I feel we’re being set up.
At this point 0bama and Soros probably have a forged long-form birth certificate.
Donald Trump, long-time Democrat and supporter of Democrat candidates, is a part of the set-up.
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You’re correct. But there is more to the situation.
There must be hand-recorded records from 1961 in Hawaii’s Department of Health to validate the acceptance and recording of the birth certificate. Such records exist for other’s birth certificates from 1961, so it is not simply that he can ‘Voila!’, produce the document.
If there are laws in several States requiring the production of the birth certificate for verification of candidate’s eligibility, Hawaii must respond with certified copies of said document when requested.
Abercrombie has already flubbed; he has said that no birth certificate exists. He has also fired one of his hand-picked officials before that man could take office.
Something stinks in paradise.
But the lame stream media will ignore all of this if Obama produces the vaunted birth certificate and especially if Trump makes a big deal over being convinced it is valid.
This is why it is very important that States pass initiatives this year that require candidates for President and Vice President to submit long-form birth certificates, not just of themselves but of their parents too.
Do you understand where I am coming from on this?
I’m on pretty shaky ground here because I’m working from memory of what a Freeper posted some time ago and I can’t even remember who.
Someone posted that real HI long form certificates of live birth have a few things that would give away even a beautifully done forgery.
1) IIRC the certificates have consecutive serial numbers so if they pick a number for about the right time, they may get the real citizen producing his/her REAL certificate with the same number.
2) Real ones have a signature from a real doctor who was practicing in that hospital (they’ve claimed two hospitals so far). What if the doctor calls BS on them...
I can’t remember any more than that, and I may be remembering wrong anyway, but it does explain why they didn’t just get a professional forger and do a good job from the beginning.
My guess is that Abercrombie found that out when he went digging through the actual records and found that all the consecutive numbers from around the right date(s) had legitimate citizens to go with them. And there he was with nothing to produce but a whole omelet on his face.
Sean is wrong to think producing a birth certificate would put this to rest. There are already many who believe it’s not even relevant to his eligibility, and there are no doubt many more who would think the same thing should Obama prove he was born on U.S. soil. Some people just aren’t going to accept that Obama is eligible either way.
I am complete **ticked** that Fox News and most conservative talk radio personalities IGNORED this issue.
I will **never** trust them again.
I pray every day that an Internet based 24 hour news “network” will be formed. I hope it sinks the ratings of these so-called “conservative” weenies like the Titanic.
Rush Limbaugh jokingly says, “ On loan from God...”. Well...He is right. If these so-called media “conservatives” misuse and bury their talent, God will raise up others that will eclipse them. This does not mean that I wish physical harm on anyone. It is just that God will NOT abandon the righteous in this nation. He will raise up others to do His work.
What Obama needs, is a birth certificate showing some other guy as his father. Of course, then his entire life story is exposed as a lie, but (perhaps) he could show himself as eligible.
There is no really good outcome for Obama. His best bet is to have an invisible BC, and to say "It's all good" -- and that is the game he's been playing for years. It works for him. As soon as the BC becomes visible, then the data on the BC comes into play. And then it's over for him.
Yep. Some of the other ‘difficulties’ is the printing press that originally printed the certificates and the paper of the certificate itself.
My sources tell me that the printing press is hard to find, one of the most visible being in a museum in Canada!
As for the paper, it is almost impossible to counterfeit.
But like I said he only has to produce it and hide it, then hopefully everyone will stop demanding to see it.
The only way Obama will be a one term President is if several States demand a certified copy of the long-form from Hawaii.
How expensive could it be to run a 24 hour news “network” through the Internet?
And...the talent is out there. There are people who are doing **great** You Tubes and investigative reporting.
For instance, my husband and I found this great little Latino Tex-Mex radio station while we were visiting North Padre Island last fall. We listen to it every day here in our state 1,500 miles away. Great sound. No skips. No pauses.
It is time to dump Fox and most of the other lukewarm conservative outlets and get some solidly conservative reporting.
It is easy to be angry with the people we hoped would go after Obama on this issue.
But if those radio and TV sources had done so, and the government had shut down them down, how much do you think we would know about other things Obama and his fellow running dogs have done?
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