Posted on 04/11/2011 8:55:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.
Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....
(Excerpt) Read more at kplctv.com ...
When investigating the investigator must make subjective assessments weighing what is possible vs. what is probable given the preponderance of the evidence.
Is it possible that someone else’s newborn could have been placed in her custody in late August 1961 in Seattle? Yes.
Is it probable? Not remotely probable, given the weight of the evidence that it was her baby, IMO.
First, you have to resort to pure conspiracy theory to come up with a mystery baby scenario. Sure, stranger things have happened. The fact of SADO by herself with a newborn in Seattle is pretty strange, but it requires no conspiracy theory (CT).
Occam's Razor leans strongly against a CT and would only resort to CT as a last resort if there were no other explanation.
But there are numerous, obvious explanations requiring no CT for SADO to be in Seattle with her own baby.
The obvious narrative backed up by the HI transcripts (which can only be rejected relying on CT, IMO) is that SAD got “knocked up” by a foreign exchange student she met enhancing her Commie affiliation in Russian class. The timing is perfect. She drops out of university at the end of the semester per the transcript. The timing is perfect. There is a shotgun wedding per a combination of the HI vital record marriage index and the divorce filing. The timing is perfect. She disappears during her underage scandalous pregnancy (she was 18). The timing is perfect. She reappears after giving birth (location yet to be established to my satisfaction). The timing is perfect.
What kind of CT would it take to come up with a scenario in which a mixed race baby is entrusted in what would be an illegal fraudulent adoption, to an inexperienced, unreliable 18-year-old living alone in a strange city?
Think about it. You have to resort to CT for SADO to have fraudulently present herself in Polk and to the U of WA and subsequently to U of HI as married SADO and to register Barry in school as Barry Obama, her son in her custody presumably with a BC of some kind. Lot's of CT.
Then you have to come up with an alternate father and mother for the baby. I know that some folks are in love with the idea that Barry is the secret love child of Malcolm X and May Angelou born in Africa and spirited into Hawii at age 4 or something like that and then all of the pictures and records for Barry before that and the divorce papers are all fakes or photoshopped.
Massive CT required...all relying on the cooperation to hide the conspiracy of Stanley Ann and her parents and friends and neighbors, HS classmates and on and on.
Occam's Razor says goo-goo-eyed Commie teen Stanley Ann got knocked up by BHO Sr. who most likely turned out to be a barbarian (he was to every other woman) so SADO blew town as soon as she could and didn't return until he had left.
Much cleaner narrative and no CT.
For me the only missing element lacking documentation is SADO’s location the period from the documented Feb 2 HI marriage and the late August sighting in Seattle, give or take the date of birth, depending on what is on the long form when we get to see it. I believe that public opinion will demand release soon.
At the White House press conference today a reporter asked Carney why Obama didn't just file a FOIA request with Hawaii to obtain the long form, as CNN has now informed the nation that Obama has in his power to do, and just get it over.
Unfortunately the reporter “led the witness” by suggesting to Carney before he had a chance to answer that perhaps it was because this might not satisfy birthers and they might just demand more and Carney leaped to embrace that explanation. But it is obvious that there is NO EXCUSE for Obama NOT to file the FIOA and his refusal alone is proof that something that would damage his eligibility is on the BC.
But I digress and it is past my need to put my ME/CFS brain in bed...
Is it probable? Not remotely probable, given the weight of the evidence that it was her baby, IMO.
I don't think anyone really has suggested that or thinks that. From everything I've read, I think that she started taking care of Zero when he was around three and he came to HI from where ever he was living before that. I don't think anyone saw Stanley Ann with a baby in Seattle in 1961.
To clarify:
I think some people (or one or two) have claimed they say SA with a baby, but I think they were coached and are lying, or they saw Anna Obama with a baby. I am convinced that Anna Obama and Stanley Ann Dunham are two different people.
On page 49 of the PDF at http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf we see that there were 230 Negro children born in Hawaii in 1961. That averages to about 20/month, or a Negro child born about 2 out of every 3 days.
Anybody have a large high-definition TV they watched and/or recorded this segment on?
haven’t had a chance to look at your link, but last year I looked at some other stats on mixed couples at that time period. If I remember correctly the odds of a black baby being born to a white mother in Hawaii was about once in several years.
So one would assume that any medical person involved would remember such an incident occuring even more so than that set of twins!
Yes it does, but without posting the other examples, it’s hard to visualize.
The source of the images is here:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/its-a-date/
It’s about time!
We only need to read the last digit.
IATZ
IIRC it was in the first law suit that one of Ohomo’s attorney’s said “It would be embarrassing” to release the actual birth certificate.
Two things I draw from that, if it was said.
There is a long form.
And it list parentage that isn’t who we been told.
Just one other thought. The birth certificate number he is using is that of a dead person. He not born in August.
“Birtherism is denialist claptrap wrapped in a veil of patriotic constitutionalism”
“Loren Collins, an Atlanta attorney, runs an anti-birther blog called Barackryphal.”
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/birther-claptrap-deserves-our-506744.html
To be fair, he is only part black....the tanned part.
there were 230 Negro children born in Hawaii in 1961. That averages to about 20/month, or a Negro child born about 2 out of every 3 days.
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Well thats a lot different to
he was the ONLY black child born in the islands for decades
Everyone would have known that
he was the one
the only one
With so many black babies born there Stig’s Mommy could have easily seen a black baby in the hospital nursery during her confinement when Stiggy was born on Aug 5
But that black baby was not necessarily the guy in the White House...
Someone's going to need a new keyboard...
There is an interview with Kezia up thread that I'm referring to. My mistake in that I should have said both Kezia and Auma. Kezia, in the interview, says there was no civil ceremony, meaning it was basically a tribal jump the broom type thing where nothing was legally documented. If it's not documented, then the marriage would not be recognized by American courts so the supposed marriage between Ann and Sr. would be legal.
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