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His Sister but still no Birth Certificate!
Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 4/13/11 | Alaphiah

Posted on 04/13/2011 6:22:27 AM PDT by Alaphiah123

Look at what Donald Trump has caused. Feeling the heat of the resurgence of interest in the possibility that he is ineligible while in office, the president is waging a two-prong attack. First he, MSM and the ruling political class (Democrats and Republicans) are going to discredit and shut-up Donald Trump.

Look for it. In the next couple of weeks, Trump will be effectively dealt with much like Ann Coutler was spayed and Glen Beck was neutered regarding the Birth Certificate subject. Likewise Mr. Trump will be afraid to even so much as mention the subject ever again and if he does it will only be to nod compliantly when asked if he thinks that Barry Hussein Soetoro is a legitimate president . And like Coulter and Beck (who must devour their own young )the Donald will attack anyone who legitimately asks for proof of Soetoro eligibility.

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KEYWORDS: blogpimp; certifigate; donaldtrump; ineligibility; maya; mayasoetoro; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump

1 posted on 04/13/2011 6:22:31 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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To: Alaphiah123
Likewise Mr. Trump will be afraid to even so much as mention the subject ever again

Trump afraid of the MSM or Obama?

I think not!

2 posted on 04/13/2011 6:27:46 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Alaphiah123

It’s a good litmus test. Cowards say it’s a non-issue. Ignorant people say he’s shown the BC.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 6:28:36 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Alaphiah123
Couldn't Obama shut these people up by trotting out his press secretary, with birth certificate in hand and say, "I told you so?"

Then why doesn't he just do it?

4 posted on 04/13/2011 6:28:52 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: Alaphiah123
We shall see.

I don't know how they got to Coulter and Beck, but I think they did. A lot of important Conservatives go mysteriously soft all of a sudden when it comes to Obama. I find it queer and disturbing.

But Trump is different. He's got a billion dollars. He's got fame and credibility. Everyone knows he's smart. He is not a sleaze. He's used to dealing with very tough guys in big city construction environments (You think Rahm Emmanuel is tough? Fuggedaboutit.) And Trump makes his living by using lawyers to create situations where he knows what he can do, what he can say, and still stay ahead of the other guy.

If anyone can fearlessly push the birth certificate issue, it's Trump. And if Trump folds on this, then I think Satan himself must be visiting these people.

5 posted on 04/13/2011 6:31:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Alaphiah123
First he, MSM and the ruling political class (Democrats and Republicans) are going to discredit and shut-up Donald Trump.

MSM has been trying shut-up Trump since Trump started to mention the Obama BC without success. The WH is now publicly responding in various ways which is just elevating Trump.

6 posted on 04/13/2011 6:33:02 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: Alaphiah123

“Look for it:” The Donald will continue to kick @ss on this issue, so far the ONLY major Republican voice clearly standing out on this issue. Why won’t the others get on board? But “neutered” by Ann Coulter? NOT!


7 posted on 04/13/2011 6:35:05 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: ClearCase_guy

***But Trump is different. He’s got a billion dollars. He’s got fame and credibility.***

He has his own ‘STASH’ - that could steal BO’s base;)


8 posted on 04/13/2011 6:36:16 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
And if Trump folds on this, then I think Satan himself must be visiting these people.

That thought has certainly occurred to me.

But I don't think Trump will fold. As he has said so many times, all publicity is good publicity (for Trump). He's one of the few people who would make money on a Trump versus Satan bout...and his ego is such that he will be convinced of victory.

9 posted on 04/13/2011 6:43:07 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Alaphiah123

Bullies against the truth.

Keeping asking the question though. Why is obama so defensive? What does he have to hide?


10 posted on 04/13/2011 6:46:32 AM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: rcrngroup

Good article!


11 posted on 04/13/2011 6:47:44 AM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think the main difference is that Trump came up through the business world and wasn’t an insider in the political world until recently, so he didn’t have the same group of ‘people behind the scenes’ trying to steer what he thought and said, like what appears to be the case with so many neutered politicians.

I used to think the New World Order types were a bunch of kooks and tinfoil hat people, but now I’m starting to see their side of the story a bit more, especially since it seems like 0bama’s past has been getting scrubbed since long before his speech at the dem convention. And both major political parties are providing cover for his past to remain a blank page, which makes me ask “Why?”.

We need a fearless candidate who will demand complete disclosure from 0bama and ridicule him mercilessly until he coughs up the reality of his past. Real birth certificate, passport records, school transcripts and thesis papers, etc. The American people deserve to see it all.


12 posted on 04/13/2011 7:04:26 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( a COLB has 13 items of info, a REAL birth certificate has 36 items of info. I want all 36 )))))
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To: Lou L

Yup. This reminds me of Nixon and the White House tapes.


13 posted on 04/13/2011 7:04:43 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Lou L

Exactly.
We don’t know much about obama, but one thing we do know is that he loves the path of least resistance.
If he could destroy his political enemies by proving beyond a doubt he is a real American, he would....I’m enjoying watching him and his slaves squirm....


14 posted on 04/13/2011 7:09:41 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Alaphiah123
The question of legitimacy must be squished. There is no purpose in trying to undo damage that has already been done.

He could be the Manchurian candidate born in Botswana for all it matters today. What has been done will likely never be reversed by a revelation of fact that he was ineligible to hold office.

It matters not. The growth of the state shall continue unto the point where collapse can not be concealed.

15 posted on 04/13/2011 7:10:15 AM PDT by mmercier
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To: Alaphiah123

frankly I think Trump already has something on Obummer... hes to smart a cookie to open his yap about something like this unless he’s already got something about it.


16 posted on 04/13/2011 7:13:26 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Alaphiah123

The information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.

The reason is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including original registraation info, the INDEX of data extracted, and the info requested and issued in a COLB.

There are multiple and myriad ways that the original registration information may have been filed. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed “late registrations” “registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens” amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the fathers name on the original record. In consequence of many of these variations, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.

But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent, possible without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. “Delayed Birth Registration” (”..additional evidence MAY be required”).

Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.

A significant factor in continuing doubt as to Obama’s progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace.


17 posted on 04/13/2011 7:15:03 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Alaphiah123

Let’s see .....

This is you blog - right?

You are the author - right?

This is original material?

What possible reason could you have (other than callously using FreeRepublic to generate blog hits) for excerpting your own work?


18 posted on 04/13/2011 7:20:14 AM PDT by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: cvq3842

“Yup. This reminds me of Nixon and the White House tapes.”

Except that the media was on our side against the republican then. We fight the media more than Obama.


19 posted on 04/13/2011 7:23:54 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: shibumi

And take some writing lessons.


20 posted on 04/13/2011 7:27:09 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: stinkerpot65

Sorry.

Here is the missing letter -

“r”

Append it to the third word in line 2 of my last post.

Feel better now?


21 posted on 04/13/2011 7:30:25 AM PDT by shibumi (Vampire Outlaw of the Milky Way)
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To: Alaphiah123

It is now the old he said, she said and there is proof that can resolve the whole thing in one day. I still think Trump is just trying to create a media circus of a Constitutional issue. He is in on the game.


22 posted on 04/13/2011 7:33:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Alaphiah123

I have no faith this will go anywhere. When the state of Hawaii changes it’s rules and says NOBODY can have a copy of their OWN birth certificate, the case is closed. Trump can hire all the investigators he wants but the only way it’ll work is if they pull a “Watergate” type break-in to the Bureau of Vital Statistics or whatever they call it in Hawaii. Then what’s he gonna’ do with what he does or does not find?

The leftist media and the rinos have won this. Haven’t you heard? The GOP’s favorite son, Romney, has settled it once and for all. His daddy was legal, therefore, obama is legal.

I’m afraid Trump is going to find out just how powerful this government is when it comes after one individual. Perot might ought to call him up and advise him to take his money and go away quietly.

And by the way, I love what Trump is doing but the “power” he’s up against is way too powerful. This ain’t the Wizard of Oz he’s playing with. This is a POWER that no mere mortal can beat.


23 posted on 04/13/2011 7:48:13 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: TigerClaws

I agree


24 posted on 04/13/2011 8:06:39 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
"...I used to think the New World Order types were a bunch of kooks and tinfoil hat people, but now..."

Nowadays there is a fine line between "conspiracy" and "little known fact".

I commend you for discerning the difference; many folks do not or cannot.

25 posted on 04/13/2011 8:07:51 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I hope not. We’ll both see


26 posted on 04/13/2011 8:08:15 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Lou L

No he would have to give authority to several independent news agencies along with school records, college records and Chicago state legislature records. That would end this discussion


27 posted on 04/13/2011 8:11:07 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Terry Mross

All of what you say is true if people like you and I don’t support him.


28 posted on 04/13/2011 8:13:24 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Yaelle

Absolutely!!! I was thinking of that also.

The media outlets have absolutely no credibility, except with people too dumb to know better or too biased themselves to care.

Unfortunately, there seem to be a lot of each.


29 posted on 04/13/2011 8:14:16 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Tempest

I often do that when lefties bring it up. “Oh, I’m not a birther, but why is he being so secretive when most people are proud of where they’re born? Why does he feel the need to hide?!”

It leaves them confused and confounded.


30 posted on 04/13/2011 8:21:29 AM PDT by rockrr ("Remember PATCO!")
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To: Terry Mross
Has Hawaii really successfully done this? I thought the original copy had to be held forever by whatever state authority keeps the records.

Everything each of us order to use for passport applications etc., is a copy. Copies can be made to blue signatures.

Is Hawaii saying that NO ONE can even see their original birth certificate if born there?

Is uhbama's birth certificate, if there, so fake and they know it that they need to prevent comparisons?

DID DONALD TRUMP'S ACTIONS FORCE HAWAII TO MAKE THIS NEW RULE? Oh my gosh. Is that possible?

Or could it be a ploy to give them time to make up and then store a fake birth certificate? Something like that?

31 posted on 04/13/2011 8:21:39 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Alaphiah123
As a public service,

here is the entire text from the blog.

For those of you who think it's OK to use FR to blogpimp, you can still click the link to go to the site, for the rest of us, you can check the quality of the content without crashing your browser with all the crap on his site.

His Sister but still no Birth Certificate!
Look at what Donald Trump has caused. Feeling the heat of the resurgence of interest in the possibility that he is ineligible while in office, the president is waging a two-prong attack. First he, MSM and the ruling political class (Democrats and Republicans) are going to discredit and shut-up Donald Trump.

Look for it. In the next couple of weeks, Trump will be effectively dealt with much like Ann Coutler was spayed and Glen Beck was neutered regarding the Birth Certificate subject. Likewise Mr. Trump will be afraid to even so much as mention the subject ever again and if he does it will only be to nod compliantly when asked if he thinks that Barry Hussein Soetoro is a legitimate president . And like Coulter and Beck (who must devour their own young )the Donald will attack anyone who legitimately asks for proof of Soetoro eligibility.

In the second phase of the president’s attack on Mr. Trump, he is trotting out his half sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng who, up to this point, has been in relative obscurity. The president must believe that he is in serious trouble. It’s quite evident that he’d rather not have the name Soetoro so prominent in this fight, as it might give people ideas.

What is most interesting is Ms. Soetoro-Ng is only regurgitating all of the “birth believers” talking points like, he’s already released information, Hawaii say’s the COLB is official, it’s ashamed, blah, blah, blah, blah.

She doesn’t bring anything new to the conversation. And at this point we don’t need another person talking about what they heard about the documents and who said that they exist, for God’s sake you’ all want to move on? Just show Americans the 2 million dollar birth certificate and we’ll move on to the next thing.

However Ms. Soetoro-Ng feels that everyone should just believe her half-brother and move on. Simple to say for you Maya, if Republican presidential candidate and white man, John McCain wasn’t made to produce his birth certificate long copy and show it to reporters maybe we could just move on, but now it wouldn't be fair.

If you recall McCain was accused of being ineligible to be president because McCain was born on a military installation in the country of Panama. I’m thinking if they made a White man who was candidate for president do it and didn’t made the black man who was a candidate for president do it that is total unfair discrimination against whites again.

No prosecution of the New Black Panthers because they are Attorney General Eric Holder’s “people” and no need for a Black man to show that he is constitutionally qualified to be president like the white man (John McCain) did. Boy how does one like those reparations! American Slavery has just been paid for. Whites are no long in debt to Blacks because that “bill” is now paid in full because a Constitutionally ineligible Black man became president . In spite of all of that Barry Hussein Soetoro’s little half sister continues the meme, ‘please move on there is nothing here to see!’ (see 1:13min video)

1. Sen. McCain wrote in his autobiography that he was born in the Panama Canal.
2. A citizen filed suit in Federal Court, and asked to see Sen. McCain’s birth certificate.
3. Citing a procedural error, the Dept. of Homeland Security refused to provide it.
4. But John McCain’s campaign volunteered to show a hard copy to a reporter anyway, and that document named the hospital where McCain was born.
5. There is also a newspaper clipping confirming his birth.
6. Roberta McCain, the Senator’s 96-year-old-mother, provided further verification when she told a story about giving birth to her son. (source)

It is totally unfair that while running for president Sen. John McCain had to show his long form birth certificate and Sen. Barry Hussein Soetoro didn’t have to show his.

The fact that they are now willing to use Maya Soetoro-Ng as a distraction is an indication that president Soetoro has been wounded by Donald Trumps’ asking of a very fundamental question, which every little boy who signed up for little league this baseball season was asked,”Where is your Birth Certificate, we need to see your birth certificate.” Without showing a birth certificate little boys all around the country can’t play baseball. And that’s a fact, no matter how many little sisters come to vouch for you the rule of law is you need to show a birth certificate to participate in little league baseball.

And because there is a constitutional amendment which requires that only a “natural born citizen” can be the president of the United States Barry Hussein Soetoro must show proof that he is lawfully serving as the 44th president of the United States.
He owes that much to the American people. He owes that much to military political prisoner Lt. Col. Larkin who is locked up because this president would show that is is constitutionally eligible. The president owes the American people the assurance that he is legitimate.

Any little league baseball boy would did it, they already have! You’re up to bat Mr. Soetoro your sister, Ann Coulter and Glen Beck notwithstanding.

32 posted on 04/13/2011 8:22:41 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: ClearCase_guy

Notice how Ted Baxter er I mean O’Reilly tried to get us all past it with his “investigation” results last night. I could vomit from that guy.


33 posted on 04/13/2011 8:25:18 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m no longer sure that is not the case. There must be a VERY powerful malignant force behind this administration.


34 posted on 04/13/2011 9:02:14 AM PDT by Josephat
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To: Josephat
I've gone through three stages in my thinking:

1) Obama is stupid
2) Obama isn't stupid -- he's Evil
3) There is a power behind this. No mere man or collection of evil men can do what he's doing.

35 posted on 04/13/2011 9:04:56 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Okay, I wasn't going to do this but I cannot stand not letting this go unsaid.

You will have to go look it up yourselves because I cannot remember the original source, but in the early days of the ‘birther’ movement Maya was identified has also having a Hawaiian birth certificate. It was part of the argument used to indicate the ‘O’ was likely not from HI; that the grandparents had submitted each of their names and birth info to the HI state bd of vital stats as born in-state. Also, neither can identify which hospital he was born in.

As for me, I am one of those following the line of him only having one US citizen as a parent so he's NOT a ‘natural born citizen’. Requires less proof and is easier to argue. I would use that as the can opener until valid proof can be produced regarding his obviously Kenyan birth. For those who have not been closely following the 'birther movement', one of the major problems they have is proof. As soon as someone finds any, those lawyers the 'O' is paying for see that it effectively 'disappears'. Witnesses have vanished, never to be seen again; documents are locked away by government officials; 'police' pick researchers up and expell them; and so on. In some cases documents obtained have later been claimed as forgeries by the source of said documents. Whatever these lawyers are doing/saying it appears to be extremely effective.

36 posted on 04/13/2011 9:19:09 AM PDT by egfowler3 (Vacancy)
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To: Republic

This is what they’re saying in Hawaii. EVERYBODY who requests a BC will get what obama got. Obama can “inspect” the original but a copy cannot be released. They’re also saying all of the paper records were destroyed and everything was put on computer. They’re saying and doing everything they NEED to do to make sure he stays in office.

Like I’ve said, the “man”, if he is a man, has a lot of power and is very pursuasive. Trump’s got a lot of money. But so does Romney, Rush, O’Reilly, etc and they sure tow the line. At the time Perot had a lot of money and they made him out to be a bumbling fool. They never did explain how such an idiot could have amassed so much money. I wish the idiot typing this could do as good. So, Trump’s money won’t get him across the finish line. The government can shut him up anytime they want to. And I predict they will.


37 posted on 04/13/2011 9:19:52 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: shibumi

I meant the blogger. I was just adding to your list.


38 posted on 04/13/2011 9:20:21 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: egfowler3

You’ve got me convinced that the BC is where they want people looking. Like Brer Rabbit “Don’t throw me in that briar patch.” When they come up with the BC they’ll say “See? He WAS born in the U.S.”

Then people will bring up his daddy’s citizenship and they (Romney, Rush, Hannity, Beck, Bill EgO and the left wing media and obama worshippers) will say “Geez, don’t you people ever give up? This has been settled once and for all and we’re not discussing it anymore.”


39 posted on 04/13/2011 9:27:48 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: Terry Mross
They are saying all of the paper records were destroyed?

Everything is now on computor?

No seals can be checked then.

It is a done deal.

Because of this timing, we can now rest very comfortably in the knowledge that something was VERY WRONG with the birth certificate.

All of this, just for one man's safety.

And an entire nation of good people who love their country is left to wonder. Some with great relief, some repulsed. Like me.

How creepy.

It would be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY good to know the names of the people involved in getting this new system passed into law and their reasoning.

This more than stinks.

40 posted on 04/13/2011 9:30:14 AM PDT by Republic (The entire White House presidential team needs to grow up and face facts!)
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To: Alaphiah123

If it’s proved Obama isn’t a legitimate president any bets on the SCOUS will do anything about it?No they won’t it’s why the msm won’t chase the story.
If Trump wants to get real for the run he needs to gives some answers on how to get us out of the hole.
If to many want to be the president run it will end up like like the H. Ross deal just another vote staeler and the left is counting on it because it would give Obama a better chance to win.
Remember they have all the left and unions and Soros money.


41 posted on 04/13/2011 10:06:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Alaphiah123
Transcript from Rush Limbaugh:

RUSH: "Okay, gonna try to get Trump on one day this week. We should be able to do that. Actually, you know, I think Trump might actually be the real illegal alien here. I mean, you say what you will, but he is once again actually doing a job that most Americans wouldn't touch. He fits the bill in that regard."

END TRANSCRIPT

42 posted on 04/13/2011 10:11:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

The more I learn the more I see how much more there is out there to be learned.


43 posted on 04/13/2011 11:32:08 AM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( a COLB has 13 items of info, a REAL birth certificate has 36 items of info. I want all 36 )))))
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