Skip to comments.TWA 800 - Still a Clinton federal government coverup.
Posted on 04/13/2011 9:04:54 PM PDT by patriotgal1787
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During an email conversation with one of my radio show listeners -- retired airline pilot JetDriver2 -- the topic of the DC-10 aircraft came up then quickly shifted over to TWA 800 and its mysterious plunge from the sky over Long Island. The conversation went from there. With his permission I have reprinted it here.
TWA was acquired by American two months after my retirement in Nov 2000. We never recovered from the July 1996 shoot-down of TWA 800 described by Jack Cashill in his book First Strike. This was a massive cover-up (for which I have personal evidence) ordered by Bill Clinton, who also ordered the assassination of Ron Brown described in another Cashill book Ron Browns Body which I recently read.
Yes TWA 800 was absolutely shot down. The FAA knows it and the FBI knows it. There was explosive residue on the seat cushions and a hole in the reconstructed fuselage. Many pieces of the wreckage were confiscated by the FBI and never seen again, including pieces identified by TWA volunteers working in the hangar at Calverton as showing missile damage.
There is no way that jet fuel fumes in an empty center fuel tank could have blown up that plane. Jet fuel is not volatile and is very difficult to ignite, nor was there enough energy in the residual fuel in the center tank to produce an explosion of that magnitude. There is testimony on this point by scientists.
There is an audiotape of an ANG helicopter pilot who was a former Navy Search and Rescue pilot in Vietnam, and who is also an attorney on Long Island. He was shooting a practice approach in the direction of the TWA 800 explosion. He testified that he saw the missile trail and he saw the explosion it was an ordnance explosion, not a fuel explosion. This guy is familiar with anti-aircraft missiles and with military ordnance. Read the entire piece at The Radio Patriot.
I agree 100%.....
To launch a missile from a US Navy ship requires the EXPLICIT compliance both before and after the fact of literally hundreds of people. HUNDREDS - none of whom have come forward, not one - no one, nada, zip, zero.
The government (apparently) can keep that secret, but they can't keep some fraternity hazing pictures secret from Abu Grahib, or a bank monitoring program in Switzerland, or the communications between ambassadors and Secretaries of State.
The stupidity and gullibility of some of our citizens is remarkable, even breathtaking.
I'm sure all the people who witnessed this directly or MUSt have known about the missing ordinance either on the ship, on the bridge, in the weapon's stores, in the ordinance supply ships, or in the logistics and procurement offices must all be buried next to the space aliens from Roswell, NM.
I have always had questions about this. In how many airliner “accidents” can anyone recall that the FBI was in charge? I don’t remember any.
If after the investigation got going and it was determined there was no foul play then why did the FBI continue to run the investigation right to the end? Why not just turn it back over to the people at the NTSB?
I used to have a few more questions but as time has gone buy I don’t remember them anymore.
Evening Old Deck Hand,
thought you might like to watch this:
SOMEBODY shot down TWA 800. Only a sheep would believe the “center fuel tank explosion” lie.
I remember this, as well and have the same reaction you do:
“I used to have a few more questions but as time has gone buy I dont remember them anymore.”
I guess this is exactly what the government wants-—concerned citizens who question an American tragedy to be kept “on hold” for so damned many years, that they “forget” the incident and the questions that seared their brains at the time.
That tactic isn’t going to work anymore, with the new media.
“Ordinary” people keep “records” of everything, now. (thank God!!!)
And why did the FBI threaten outside investigators?
I knew a man who was a Boeing crash inspector - worked for Boeing. I asked him about TWA800 about 10 years ago.
He said, “It was a missile.”
My ex-wife, who is the least scientifically oriented or aviation oriented soul on Earth said at the time, “Who the hell do they think they’re fooling?”
Wow, that's convincing. A guy who was in a helicopter thought it looked like a missile explosion. /s
As someone who has practiced law for 27-years, I can tell you without equivocation that the most unreliable evidence you can EVER introduce into a court of law, is someone's eyewitness testimony. This isn't even that.
Lex parsimoniae has stood the test of time for a reason.
A government "coverup" involving hundreds of people over (almost) 20-years is hardly the simplest explanation.
Give up. Trying to convince these conspiracy wackos is like trying to teach a pig to dance:
1: You can’t win
2: It’s just a waste of time
3: It only frustrates the pig
I know who really did it. It was Colonel, I mean Admiral Mustard with the lead pipe in the Conservatory.
He said it was a missile. Hell, that convinces me! Where or where did all the rest of us ever miss all that convincing evidence!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it was space aliens. They were here to meet Tom Cruise and John Travolta in a NY city gay bathhouse, or something. They took TWA 800 as a hostile threat, and acted accordingly.
It was a missile. The American people are so dense that they never see the truth. Thank God 9/11 was live on dozens of channels, or else the MSM would have called all the targets "structural failure caused by poor Republican design decades earlier."
Yeah, those gas tanks will just go up in a ball of fire at anytime.Funny I never heard of another one doing that, ever.Boeing doesnt make junk.Airbust on the other hand...I dont buy that our military had anything to do with it but I do buy that the bird was brought down by a missle.
What's your interest in the cover up?
The more emotional BS they can post, the more fools come to their sites.
It's all about $, and moving them from our pockets to theirs.
“He said it was a missile. Hell, that convinces me! Where or where did all the rest of us ever miss all that convincing evidence!!!!!!!!!!”
Just relaying what I was told.
You lawyers think you're God.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you if ...........
God forbid a 27-year lawyer might ever be duped by facts. No siree. No one’s getting anything over on you. I’m almost as impressed with you as you are with yourself.
Even Thomas doubted it was Jesus when he saw him with his own eyes. Get over yourself. You’re nothing new. History’s full of old deck hands...
There is nothing more unreliable than people on the ground describing what they see happening in the sky, especially when what's happening is MILES from where they're located.
"What's your interest in the cover up?"
Of course, it's a "cover up". It would be the biggest cover-up since the moon landings were faked, or something.
Anyone who thinks that the federal government, to include a variety of elements of the US military and most of the 2nd Fleet, can "cover up" anything, let alone something as big as this, really has NOT been paying attention to the incompetence of our government for the last 50-years.
“I have a bridge in Brooklyn I could sell you if ...........”
The guy did work for Boeing and he traveled the country inspecting crash sites. He was the father of a friend of mine.
I thought that plane was brought down when obamas birth certificate was sucked into one of the engines....
Well, if you haven't heard of it, it must mean that it's entirely impossible, or something.
Gee, I wonder why it's SOP for the US military to have inerting systems on all its combat aircraft and many logistical aircraft?
Aircraft engineers on commercial aircraft have suggested such systems on passengers aircraft YEARS before this tragedy. Why wasn't it required? Too expensive - the cost-benefit math didn't make sense.
It still doesn't make sense, but that doesn't mean there isn't a danger.
The nutters all magically and inexplicably switched from “The Navy shot it down” after 9/11 to “terrorists shot it down.”
I guess you never heard of the Warren Commission.
i read the book
what makes no sense is there have been millions of those flights and only one went down like that.
a cover up seems plausible.
Interesting revisit of an obvious missle-shootdown of TWA 800
I have not paid much attention to the shoot-down in recent years....but when you have 100s of witnesses who saw something hit that plane...not all those witnesses are liars
No way...no way all of them are lying
Scary is that you have people who will defend the government line, at all costs. Even scarier is that the “Missle-Deniers” are backing the Clinton Admin version of events.
Two Boeing 737s have had accidental center fuel tank explosions (both were on the ground at the time).
If failure modes of commercial aircraft were common, tens of thousands of people would be dying in airline accident every year.
It's so safe that when there's an accident it involves weird combinations of unusual circumstances.
The US Navy story is essentially preposterous. However, the official story has always left me skeptical.
The NTSB had come out and said it was a fuel leak that was ignited by the heat of the engines that caused the explosion. The report stated that a stream of fuel was ignited far back of the plane and raced up to blow the tanks. That made it look like a missile was coming up from the rear.
Finally, when has the Navy ever conducted missile firings off Long Island??? Is there a test range set up below the flight path of planes flying to Europe from JFK???
Do you know the details of those two 737s? I would like to read up on that.
Something has me believing that you have/had skin in the game. A contingency fee perhaps?
Jet fuel just wont light off that easy.Av gas is another story.I also find it strange that the center fuel tank was empty on a transatlantic flight just after takeoff.weird
Clinton conspiracy? Bill Clinton? The 42nd President of the US, Bill Clinton? He covered up the TWA 800 frayed wire in the center fuel tank explosion that would have kept right on happening if they hadn’t ground all of that ticking timebomB-747 model that hadn’t blown up already? That was a missile? Get real. No one would dare try anything like that! Especially not the islamists, they were scared of Clinton. And the death Ron Brown, too? Clinton had him killed? Like on âThe Clinton Death Listâ? Riiiight. That’s illegal. Never could have happened. Next you’ll tell me the terrorist cult at Waco didn’t burn themselves and their compound to the ground in a mass suicide? Thatâd be like, getting away with murder and mass murder...câmon, that couldn’t happen or that all those missing FBI files wasn’t just an accident, or that Hillary isn’t really an incredible cattle futures trader? That’s just crazy...she’d be in jail with Web Hubble, not SOS and Clinton would have been put in jail with Web Hubble, not on the speaker circuit. I suppose you think obama isn’t a NBC? *Whew* Y’all are just plain crazy nuts here. You’re all too smart not to know better than that. Dâoh! The media would have reported it! And they didn’t! Duh
If Oswald had fired a $650K missile (at least) at Kennedy - a missile that is accounted for EVERY WEEK - then sure, it would be just like the Warren Commission.
I don't think you understand the effort, preparation and numbers of people it takes to procure a missile, supply a missile, fire a missile, and then replace the missile. We're talking about every line officer on the ship, dozens of enlisted men and NCOs in CiC, bridge and fire control stations all would have had to directly falsify deck logs and copious amounts of other documents to say nothing of the rest of the ship's crew who absolutely would have heard it (and the alarms). Missile launches are NOT quiet. They're loud. Very, very loud.
Oh, and then you have to pull back into port and explain to another 100 or so people what happened to the missing half-million dollar SAM.
But, sure. It's COMPLETELY believable no one would say a thing, to anyone, ever - 'cause that kind of stuff happens ALL THE TIME. /s
I was peripherally involved in the investigation relating to Iran 655. It was massive. There was NO WAY that could have been covered up, even if the Navy wanted to. This was bigger than that.
Sure, jet fuel has a high flash point. Jet fuel vapor OTOH, is about as explosive as any low explosive gets. That fuel tank was full of vapor.
Of course it was. Like millions of flights before it.
The only live-fire SAM range that I'm familiar with on the East Coast is a NASA installation called Wallops, off the coast of VA. I don't know if it has ever actually been used. All other SAM ranges (close to or on CONUS) are on the west coast.
The NY-Europe corridor is one of the busiest flight corridors in the world. The Navy would never conduct missile exercises in the LI Sound. It's ridiculous.
10-4 on that. I think it was an SAM acquired by Bin Laden from the US to fight the Soviets. A precursor to 9-11.
That's about the failure rate of anything mechanical on a plane - MILLIONS of flights.
How many flights did it take for a piece of FOD to be picked up by a tire and hurdled into a an engine of a Concord causing a catastrophic explosion - hundreds of thousands (or more) for just one aircraft type? Or, maybe that was a missile too.
Catastrophic mechanical failures are rare. However, that doesn't mean that they don't happen.
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