Posted on 04/25/2011 3:43:44 PM PDT by butterdezillion
As if disobeying their vital records statutes in full sight of everybody isn't enough, Hawaii officials have now decided to throw their Open Records Law (UIPA) overboard as well - by calling even a first request a "duplicitous request".
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You have mail! :)
I think they will come clean when it’s a choice between 10 years in prison versus lifetime. And not one second before that.
If I was Trump I’d be talking to some very specific people, giving them first dibs at being the informant who gets off lighter.
They are definitely hiding something about their 1960-64 birth index, and that story will be coming out.
I think there are some office workers there who would love to spill the beans if they knew they could have legal protection. Big if. I feel sorry for the ones who just want to carry on with their life and not be forced to go along with what they know is wrong.
Lol. The scary thing is, after listening to an interview with Andrew Breitbart this p.m., I don’t find your scenario farfetched. I’m telling you, KB—they things in Breitbart’s new book are blood curdling.
I requested 4 photocopied pages. It would take me 5 minutes, max.
Increasingly clear that the employees in this country of We the People , from the Federal to the State level, increasingly need a firm reminder of exactly who it is they work for...
Sorry. I just wish the OIP had put a courtesy “Barf Alert” on their e-mail, like people do for posts here.
It’s finally coming to a head. We’ve still got mos, not weeks, to go, but we are reaching critical mass. Considering how rabidly the MSM has opposed us at every turn, it is a miracle of God we’ve come this far. The end is in sight. An extraordinary—and extraordinarily vile—confluence of circumstances has enabled Obama to hide his secrets far longer than should have been the case. The lid is coming off, though, and soon we’ll finally get some answers re: his shadowy past.
Where we go from there, we shall see.
The bad thing is that any honest person who had access and a cellphone camera would probably end up doing more time than any of the perpetrators of the world’s biggest hoax.
I wonder what protection there would be for a whistleblower who exposed government corruption by actually disclosing confidential government records. Anybody know?
I hope you’re right. At this point I think people are HAVING to see that the Hawaii government is involved in the cover-up, with the number of laws that they are breaking for Obama’s sake.
Before long, when somebody pulls out this or that claim from a Hawaii official they will just get laughs in response. Sort of like the guy whose wife knows Fukino laughed when he asked her if she’d believe Obama was NBC just because Fukino claimed it.
Here is the list of reasons:
The office of information practices may declare that a person is a vexatious requester if it determines that the person has established a pattern of conduct that amounts to an abuse of a process set forth under this chapter. When the person has been working in concert with another person to make requests, including making identical requests, both persons’ requests may be considered as part of the person's pattern of conduct. The office of information practices shall consider whether a person's pattern of conduct includes the following factors, provided that no one factor alone shall be sufficient to find an abuse of a process set forth under this chapter:
(1) A large quantity or broad scope of requests by the person;
(2) Splitting requests to avoid or minimize fees;
(3) Duplicative or repetitive requests made for the same action, where the agency has already responded to the request;
(4) Requests for records submitted for a purpose other than obtaining access to the records, including nuisance value or harassment;
(5) Institution of proceedings under this chapter, including appealing requests or submitting complaints or investigation requests, without reasonable grounds, or to accomplish an objective unrelated to the purpose of the proceedings;
(6) Abandonment of requests when the fee is not waived, and the request is for a purpose other than obtaining access to the records; or
(7) Requests that only marginally promote the public interest in disclosure under this chapter, including requests focused on an agency's handling of the requester’s own requests or correspondence.
I suspect that at least one of these would apply to you.
Under a regime with Holder as AG? Surely, thou jest, good Sir.
Can we just vote them out of the Union?
Yes—wasn’t that fascinating, that the wife of one of our own Freepers knew, and suffered under, the incompetency and corruption of Fukino? Pretty amazing info surfaces on this site every day.
But it’s not just the shenanigans and outright lawlessness of HI that’s turning the tide. The real game-changer is Obama’s falling poll #s. That poll released the other day showing 70% of the respondents thought the US was seriously on the wrong course was just devastating. Obama’s policies have been so over-the-top that they are already wreaking havoc. Print a never ending stream of bogus $, borrow borrow borrow borrow, all the while cutting off domestic oil production [and all other energy except for loser green projects] and it won’t be long before inflation runs amok.
People will do things for a popular president they absolutely will not do for a toxic one. Even Obama’s personality lately has been turning people off. After he attacked Ryan, his numbers tanked afresh. He’s on a downward spiral, and he can’t come back. The reason he can’t is because HIS policies are the ones killing jobs and fueling inflation.
All told, we are going to start seeing the secrets surface sooner than later. Personally, I think Corsi’s book will be nuclear in its impact. No way Drudge would have hyped it unless Corsi gave him a heads up on the content. Drudge liked what he heard, and sent the book to # One. This administration is in for a world of hurt. Let’s just hope our recovery from Obama’s wrecking ball is not equally painful.
Hey jamess666, I thought they booted your ass out of here?
That was in the original “vexatious requestor bill”. None of that was passed. All that was passed was the part that is in UIPA right now (which can be seen at http://hawaii.gov/oip/uipa.html ) :
[§92F-11] Affirmative agency disclosure responsibilities. (a) All government records are open to public inspection unless access is restricted or closed by law.
(b) Except as provided in section 92F-13, each agency upon request by any person shall make government records available for inspection and copying during regular business hours; provided that an agency shall not be required to make government records available or respond to a person’s subsequent duplicative request, if:
(1) After conducting a good faith review and comparison of the earlier request and the pending request, the agency finds that the pending request is duplicative or substantially similar in nature;
(2) The pending request has already been responded to within the past year; and
(3) The agency’s response to the pending request would remain unchanged.”
This is the first time I asked for copies of these public records. If they can deny me the records based on this law, then they can deny ANY records - and that is exactly the point I’m making. Their “interpretation” would allow the law to be absolutely gutted.
As I said before, I’m wondering if there is any law they aren’t willing to break in order to cover for Obama’s lawlessness and for their own involvement in the greatest hoax of our time.
Maybe if the informant was Black?
It’s really, really sad that America’s law enforcement system has so quickly and so easily become third-world.
Maybe the good that come from this is that people realize anew exactly what it is that has made America exceptional and how easily it can be lost if we aren’t vigilant.
Was it Ronald Reagan who said, “Freedom is never more than a generation away from extinction”?
My apologies. I suspect their reasoning is that you are an out of stater and a known birther. No matter how you phrase your requests they know what your true motivation is. They simply don’t want to waste time and money on out of state conspiracy theorists when they have real state business to attend to .
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