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1 posted on 04/27/2011 8:26:56 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
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(page 246)
And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President. “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President,” &c. The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not.

(pg 250)
6. Upon principle, therefore, I can entertain no doubt, but that by the law of the United States, every person born within the dominions and allegiance of the United States, whatever were the situation of his parents, is a natural born citizen.

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/Lynch_v_Clarke_1844_ocr.pdf


2 posted on 04/27/2011 8:28:13 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Poor history is better than good fiction, and anything with lots of horses is better still)
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The major precedent is against you. Although Vice President and President had an Irish father (a well known fact at the time) nobody was curious enough to ask him if the father was a citizen at the time of Arthur’s birth. Why not? You have two choices: either people in 1880 were idiots compared to current Americans (yeah, right) or they didn’t think this issue had any bearing on Arthur’s eligibility.


3 posted on 04/27/2011 8:30:10 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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The major precedent is against you. Although Vice President and President had an Irish father (a well known fact at the time) nobody was curious enough to ask him if the father was a citizen at the time of Arthur’s birth. Why not? You have two choices: either people in 1880 were idiots compared to current Americans (yeah, right) or they didn’t think this issue had any bearing on Arthur’s eligibility.


4 posted on 04/27/2011 8:30:19 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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I meant Vice President and President Arthur....but you can gather that from the rest of the post.


5 posted on 04/27/2011 8:35:03 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: patriotgal1787
Obama didn't release anything new. He released the same old COLB.

The acronym COLB stands for "Certificate of Live Birth."

Look at the top of the released document:

What does it say?

If The Donald does not make a big stink about this, it means he's a stalking-horse for Hussein, meant to inoculate him from further birth certificate inquiries.

7 posted on 04/27/2011 8:36:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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Odd that Obamas alleged long form bc does not look like any of the others born in Hawaii at that time. It also appears cropped. It looks like the one they have been passing off as the real thing the last few days. It also has some written numbers on certain boxes.


9 posted on 04/27/2011 8:41:06 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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Obama is not a natural born citizen. He cannot be, because his father was Kenyan and a British subject

Obama's a citizen because he was born in Hawaii. It doesn't matter where his parents were born.

16 posted on 04/27/2011 8:50:28 AM PDT by gdani
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How do take focus off high gas prices? Birth issue
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Like Rahm Emanuel said, “You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

I would venture to say this crisis is Obama’s birth issue. With everyone focusing on his birth issue, the true problems are put on the back burner, and all the real issues are dealt with using “Under the table negotiations”

Now his birth certificate maybe bogus. But it comes at a time when other problems need to be addressed. Let’s wait until the 2012 election and then declare him ineligible to run. Hold his feet to the fire on the real issues now!


19 posted on 04/27/2011 8:53:40 AM PDT by drinktheobamakoolaid (When do replace an empty suit...November 6, 2012)
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21 posted on 04/27/2011 8:55:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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Since the beginning of this issue the real question has been ignored. What is the legal definition of the term ‘natural born citizen’ in the Constitution? Can you have two foreign born parents (but be born in America) and still be President? Or one foreign parent? Or do you need to be born of two American citizen parents as has been the definition for most of country’s history and was so at the time of our Founding.

This question you will notice is never addressed by the MSM at all, nor by even many alternative media outlets as well. The birth certificate issue has been set up as a smoke screen in order to deflect from this, the real question that needs to be answered.

A lawyer in New Jersey has tried to pursue this question legally but of course to no avail. It is an extremely important issue and should not be discarded or ridiculed. Here is his website explaining the issue:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

We have today a democrat political party that has objectives to maintain open borders and grant amnesty to illegal’s entering this nation. This same political party would also like to eliminate the electoral college in order to have the mass population centers (cities) rule the voting process, and now also we have a movement on the left to do away the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement in the Constitution thus allowing someone with foreign allegiances to become President. This is a prescription for the demise of our nation.

If you care about this nation and the rule of law then I implore you to address the real issue involving Presidential eligibility under the Constitution.


26 posted on 04/27/2011 9:02:19 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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29 posted on 04/27/2011 9:12:44 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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Sorry to disappoint you folks, but you’re wasting your time. The citizenship question is not the first in US history.

Subsequent law has dealt with insufficiencies of the constitution on this issue:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

-Anyone born inside the United States *

-Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

-Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

-Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

-Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

-Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

-Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

-A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.


30 posted on 04/27/2011 9:21:05 AM PDT by fruser1
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1566#1566


64 posted on 04/28/2011 12:18:16 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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