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Poll: 4 in 10 Southerners Still Side With Confederacy
aolnews ^ | Apr 13, 2011 7:10 AM | lauren frayer

Posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:20 AM PDT by OL Hickory

A century and a half after the opening shots of the U.S. Civil War, nearly four in 10 Southerners say they still sympathize with the Confederacy.

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2011polls; civil; dixie; north; south; thesouthwasright; war
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Around here in "SOUTH" Jersey...the number is much higher
1 posted on 05/03/2011 9:29:26 AM PDT by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory

If people are free to enter the Union, why are they not free to exit?


2 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:04 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: OL Hickory

The longer we live, the more sensible secession will seem.


3 posted on 05/03/2011 9:32:19 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: OL Hickory
It ain't over till it's over.

4 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:29 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: cowboyway; central_va; dcwusmc; MagnoliaB; Cvengr; southernsunshine; Salamander; PeaRidge; ...

Ping


5 posted on 05/03/2011 9:33:29 AM PDT by Idabilly ("I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. ...)
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To: OL Hickory

About half the yankees would join the south today if they could


6 posted on 05/03/2011 9:34:14 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: OL Hickory

I’m in that 40%.


7 posted on 05/03/2011 9:34:24 AM PDT by Jemian (War Eagle!)
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To: OL Hickory; stainlessbanner
A century and a half after the opening shots of the U.S. Civil War, nearly four in 10 Southerners say they still sympathize with the Confederacy.

They say this like it's a bad thing.

8 posted on 05/03/2011 9:35:26 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: OL Hickory

Given the present course of the Union, confederates will be growing in number and popularity.


9 posted on 05/03/2011 9:35:42 AM PDT by pallis
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To: OL Hickory

I wish I had saved some of my Confederate money...it will soon be worth more than a $.


10 posted on 05/03/2011 9:35:48 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: OL Hickory

11 posted on 05/03/2011 9:36:43 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: lonestar

It already is.
Go try and buy some on eBay.


12 posted on 05/03/2011 9:38:38 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: kittymyrib
Appomattox resolved nothing.
13 posted on 05/03/2011 9:39:05 AM PDT by central_va
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To: OL Hickory

“They do not know what they say. If it came to a conflict of arms, the war will last at least four years. Northern politicians will not appreciate the determination and pluck of the South, and Southern politicians do not appreciate the numbers, resources, and patient perseverance of the North. Both sides forget that we are all Americans. I foresee that our country will pass through a terrible ordeal, a necessary expiation, perhaps, for our national sins.” - General Robert E. Lee.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 9:39:22 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Copperhead. I mean that in a good way.


15 posted on 05/03/2011 9:40:37 AM PDT by central_va
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To: Jemian

If you like freedom, the south would not have been that great. It was a military dictatorship during the war - no freedom of the press or speech. The north on the other hand, had a vigorous press throughout the war. Current disdain for the federal government aside, we are lucky the north won.


16 posted on 05/03/2011 9:41:46 AM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: Jemian

If you like freedom, the south would not have been that great. It was a military dictatorship during the war - no freedom of the press or speech. The north on the other hand, had a vigorous press throughout the war. Current disdain for the federal government aside, we are lucky the north won.


17 posted on 05/03/2011 9:42:07 AM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: OL Hickory

Being born and raised in Illinois I grew up believing Lincoln was one step below Jesus Christ. Not so much anymore. Add me to the list that sympathizes with the south. BUT... the abomination of slavery had to end.


18 posted on 05/03/2011 9:44:34 AM PDT by TruthBeforeAll (To a liberal, if an idea is a complete & utter disaster, it's only because there's not enough of it.)
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To: OL Hickory

HELL YES!


19 posted on 05/03/2011 9:45:05 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: OL Hickory

HELL YES!


20 posted on 05/03/2011 9:45:29 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: OL Hickory
Poll: 4 in 10 Southerners Still Side With Confederacy

VERY troubling. Insanity at 60%, and in the SOUTH. We got trouble.

21 posted on 05/03/2011 9:46:00 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: OL Hickory
nearly four in 10 Southerners say they still sympathize with the Confederacy

The other 6 are Yankee immigrants.

22 posted on 05/03/2011 9:47:15 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: OL Hickory

All we have to do for reinforcement is wstch the Damnysnkees screw up everything they touch! Why should we want a nation where NYC is considered normal and Michael Bloomberg a great leader?


23 posted on 05/03/2011 9:50:36 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: rokkitapps
no freedom of the press or speech

That was true of both the Union and Confederacy. And that "vigorous" press notwithstanding, you just have to look at the 1863 draft riots to see how free speech was handled in the North.
24 posted on 05/03/2011 9:51:00 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Renderofveils

You are correct about that riot, however, the main point is the north maintained civilian authority in most federal areas, while the south had military rule.


25 posted on 05/03/2011 9:54:03 AM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: Idabilly

Count me in.

Resist the federal behemoth!


26 posted on 05/03/2011 9:56:45 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: OL Hickory
I believe it. My Mother-in-Law still occasionally introduces me as "That Yankee Republican".

I am a dammed Yankee, but I've got enough sense to realize a good thing when I see it. Wouldn't change one thing about the south. I love it here.

27 posted on 05/03/2011 9:59:32 AM PDT by wbill
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To: OL Hickory

Huffington influence? The source is aol news, and she’s there, and wa lah, we’ve got one more civil rights trouble making.


28 posted on 05/03/2011 9:59:44 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: from occupied ga

They say it because the assumption is that anyone who agrees is “wacist” and wants to still have slavery.

In the blue states, its seen as proof of how backward and deliverence stupid Southerners are.


29 posted on 05/03/2011 10:01:24 AM PDT by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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To: rokkitapps

THe south if they had gained there freedom would have resemble the US under the AoC. They were fighting against centralized govt. YOu cannot judge the North or the South by what happened during wartime.


30 posted on 05/03/2011 10:02:57 AM PDT by central_va
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To: FightThePower!
If people are free to enter the Union, why are they not free to exit?

All contracts have two or more parties. If the contract doesn't specify, then all the parties have to agree to end it, just like all the parties had to agree to the contract in the first place. Basic law, which is based on basic common sense.
31 posted on 05/03/2011 10:04:23 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Democratic Underground: The Hogwarts of stupid.)
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To: OL Hickory
nearly four in 10 Southerners say they still sympathize with the Confederacy.

What percentage of the other six have ever heard of it?

32 posted on 05/03/2011 10:08:02 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: rokkitapps
It was a military dictatorship during the war - no freedom of the press or speech. The north on the other hand, had a vigorous press throughout the war.

LOL! Francis Scott Key's grandson et al journalists jailed without warrant throughout the north notwithstanding. vigorous press?
33 posted on 05/03/2011 10:14:21 AM PDT by phi11yguy19
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To: TruthBeforeAll
BUT... the abomination of slavery had to end.

agreed, but (a) that's not why he waged the war (secession), and (b) was 600,000 dead the proper means to that end? Not so much for the rest of the world where slavery was much more prevalent.
34 posted on 05/03/2011 10:16:16 AM PDT by phi11yguy19
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To: OL Hickory

As far as the issue of states rights is concerned, I agree ABSOLUTELY with the Confederacy.

However enslaving a race of people was DEAD wrong and I eagerly await the justification of slavery.


35 posted on 05/03/2011 10:16:16 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Jemian

Me too.
We visited the grave of my ancestor who was killed at Chancellorsville on Sunday.


36 posted on 05/03/2011 10:18:09 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: rokkitapps
the north maintained civilian authority in most federal areas, while the south had military rule

actually every power lincoln assumed during the war was done so under his military rule. he wasn't executing the laws of the day warring secession, suspending habeus corpus, etc.
37 posted on 05/03/2011 10:19:01 AM PDT by phi11yguy19
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To: Cheburashka

“All contracts have two or more parties. If the contract doesn’t specify, then all the parties have to agree to end it, just like all the parties had to agree to the contract in the first place. Basic law, which is based on basic common sense.”

Kind of like the Mafia.


38 posted on 05/03/2011 10:21:08 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: central_va

“Appomattox resolved nothing.”

Except to make Wilmer McLean the only American to have a war start and finish on farms he owned.


39 posted on 05/03/2011 10:21:45 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Le Chien Rouge

“However enslaving a race of people was DEAD wrong and I eagerly await the justification of slavery.”

Are you talking about the USA for 80 years after the Constitution was written?


40 posted on 05/03/2011 10:23:56 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: rokkitapps
The north on the other hand, had a vigorous press throughout the war.

Were you trying to be sarcastic, or do you really believe that? Lincoln put over ten thousand civilians in jail without trial for opposing his war. He shut down every single opposition newspaper, putting many of the editors in jail. He jailed opposition politicians and even deported one of them (who then got reelected while in exile).

Lincoln's America was a horror show. The Union was a military dictatorship during and after the war. Lincoln's only foreign ally was the Tsar (who offered to send him troops). Keep in mind the Union was not being invaded. It's ports were not blockaded. It faced no existential threat, nor any threat at all except the loss of tax revenue from the South. Yet Lincoln used marshal law against his own civilians and did so for purely political reasons.

41 posted on 05/03/2011 10:24:07 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I eagerly await the justification of slavery.

You may be waiting a while since no one here's trying to justify slavery. It was a world problem that we inherited under britain. It was southern because of climate, but the heinous slave trade was conducted almost entirely by the north - throughout the americas and throughout the war. No one held a moral high ground.

Perhaps justify the slaughter of hundreds of thousands - not to "free" the slaves, but to "enslave" the southern states to the north. remember, for years of war, the south was invited back with slavery in tact - the catch being they had to kiss the feet of the northern states in perpetuity.
42 posted on 05/03/2011 10:24:50 AM PDT by phi11yguy19
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To: OL Hickory

I should first tell you my late mother-in-law was a proud member of the Daughters of the Republic. Their family exemplified an early example of American penchant for the conspiracy theories, commenting for years that Appomattox never happened. My ex-wife exemplifies southern pride. Personally, I am a transplanted northerner who appreciates more and more the states right fight that the south projected during the Civil War. I only give this as a background for a recent conversation I had with my kids.

My Son and Daughter and I were watching Pickett’s charge during the movie Gettysburg. My Son is studying the Civil War in his middle school history class. We discussed the different aspects of the charge, but my 13 year old Daughter’s final comment on it was “Things would have be a lot different for us if Stonewall hadn’t been shot at Chancellorsville.” The “us” rolled off her tongue like she was talking about something that happened last week to her volleyball team.

The south will never die.


43 posted on 05/03/2011 10:29:50 AM PDT by Til I am the last man standing (It's the internet Senators; We can see what you are doing!)
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To: Cheburashka
If the contract doesn't specify, then all the parties have to agree to end it, just like all the parties had to agree to the contract in the first place. Basic law, which is based on basic common sense.

Have you ever actually studied law? If a contract doesn't specify its termination conditions and has no apparent implied termination conditions then it is an "at will" contract and either party may terminate it at will. Haven't you ever been employed? That is a contract but one doesn't need the employer's permission to end it.

44 posted on 05/03/2011 10:32:22 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: rokkitapps; Jemian
If you like freedom, the south would not have been that great. It was a military dictatorship during the war - no freedom of the press or speech. The north on the other hand, had a vigorous press throughout the war.

No, it did not.

Executive Order - Arrest and Imprisonment of Irresponsible Newspaper Reporters and Editors

May 18, 1864

Major-General John A. Dix,

Commanding at New York:

Whereas there has been wickedly and traitorously printed and published this morning in the New York World and New York Journal of Commerce, newspapers printed and published in the city of New York, a false and spurious proclamation purporting to be signed by the President and to be countersigned by the Secretary of State, which publication is of a treasonable nature, designed to give aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States and to the rebels now at war against the Government and their aiders and abettors, you are therefore hereby commanded forthwith to arrest and imprison in any fort or military prison in your command the editors, proprietors, and publishers of the aforesaid newspapers, and all such persons as, after public notice has been given of the falsehood of said publication, print and publish the same with intent to give aid and comfort to the enemy; and you will hold the persons so arrested in close custody until they can be brought to trial before a military commission for their offense. You will also take possession by military force of the printing establishments of the New York World and Journal of Commerce, and hold the same until further orders, and prohibit any further publication therefrom.

A. LINCOLN.

45 posted on 05/03/2011 10:33:26 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: OL Hickory

Horray for the Bonny Blue Flag..


46 posted on 05/03/2011 10:37:15 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: rokkitapps

Come on it’s not like they weren’t under a bit of pressure. The south was dealing with an invasion. Not normal..


47 posted on 05/03/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: phi11yguy19

I absolutely agree that we, as a nation, inherited slavery from Britain, absolutely agree that the federal government essentially enslaved the South following the Civil War with it’s intrusion on states rights and absolutely agree
that the North greatly economically benefited from slavery.

I would add that there were(still are) Northern hypocrites regarding the issue of slavery.

However, my disgust over keeping a people, based on race, enslaved is a human rights issue and not a Southern bashing/pro North issue.


48 posted on 05/03/2011 10:50:38 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: OL Hickory

great thread, best I’ve seen here—surprised.


49 posted on 05/03/2011 10:52:07 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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