Hawaii detective charges: 'Birth certificate' a fraud

World Net Daily ^ | May 8, 2011 | Jerome Corsi

[conservativegramma]

HONOLULU, Hawaii – A private investigator claims employees of the state Department of Health forged three Hawaiian birth certificates for Barack Obama to "screw with birthers."

Takeyuki Irei told WND one document placed the birth at Kapiolani hospital, another at Queens Medical Center and a third in Kenya.

The 57-year-old detective, who has been a P.I. since the 1980s, said he was stunned when he discovered that the purported copy of Obama's original birth certificate released by the White House was more or less an exact image of one of the forgeries.

Two retired police officers in Honolulu, who asked not to be identified for security reasons, also told WND they believe the White House document is a forgery, and they are trying to identify who created it.

[butterdezillion]

Seems similar to the situation with Lori Starfelt too...

[machogirl]

I wonder if the Queens BC was really “destroyed”. If you’re a PI, investigating Barry, why would you allow those records that you obtained, out of your sight? This is the item in the article that makes me wonder about the PI.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

She left Factcheck at the start of the year. They say she was supposed to go to grist.org, an environmentalist blog. She never landed there...nothing on their site about her....

She married a guy named Dan Zimmerman and now goes by Jess Zimmerman. You'll find her in the Grist staff list. Here's her Twitter feed, last updated a half hour ago.

[cynwoody]

Fake - proven.

Hah! The evidence you introduce supports the opposite conclusion. This is from a scan of the next sheet of blank paper on the Staples legal pad on my desk.

I can spot at least two blemishes in the paper that resemble those on the 2007 CoLB. There are also a couple of random ink spatters in the lower right and a stray something in between the red rules. I can assure you these flaws are not dirt on the scanner glass. They are easily visible if I examine the original with with a loupe, and they stay put if I rub the paper with a tissue paper and then flip it around and scan it again. They are durable and part of the original.

Thus, it's quite likely those three extraneous dots evident on 2007 form were present in the original paper stock on which Hawaii printed the document. The scanner picked them up. And so did FactCheck's camera.

It's quite pathetic to watch. Gullible birthers will grasp at any reed of evidence, no matter how flimsy, if it seems to support their quest for the Magic Bullet to oust the Magic Negro (hint: the magic formula is 67 senators).

[Ladysforest]

One thing though - didn’t the HI PI say that the Queens BC was destroyed a few months ago? Did he image it, or share it with WND and do they have an image saved? Sorry if this has been covered, I don’t have time right now to read all these comments.

Listen - you all know how HI recently stated that a person who views the Index Data books at the HI DOH has to “sign a book” and show ID - and that the “book” dated back to March 2010?

MY FRIEND, TSUNAMIGENO, DIDN’T HAVE TO SIGN ANY BOOK. I think it was like the 2nd of March when he went to look at it, and could NOT find obama’s name in the book. The DOH apparently began requiring signatures immediately after his visit.

He can not recall if the date range was or was not in that Index book when he looked at it - but he only looked at the one book, and that issue wasn’t even on the radar, the missing date range was something discovered by chance when my other friend went in July ‘10.

[cynwoody]

On Page 26 of “Dreams of My Father”, Obama writes: “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school,”.

Why did he then have to ask Hawaii for a copy the document? Why not scan and publish the one that he already had?

More than likely those are the words of Billy Ayers, not Barack Obama. One has to wonder if that old BC was in the box of documents Moochelle reportedly dumped on Ayers's kitchen table. And if Obama himself even remembered it was there.

Now consider, if instead of having his lawyer fly out to Honolulu to hand carry the new copy back to Washington, he had scanned that old copy to a PDF with the same options and put it up on whitehouse.gov. The same sort of layers would be present. His father's race would still have been African, his serial number would still have been slightly out of order, etc., etc. What he should have done, if he truly wanted to put the kibosh on birtherism (which I don't think he does — I think he's fine with birthers making fools of themselves, as long as birtherism doesn't start making inroads into the independents) would have been to have asked Hawaii to make 300 dpi color scan of the original and post the bitmap (no steenkin' PDFs or high-compression JPEGs, please) on their website.

Or are we to assume that the current commander in chief and leader of the free world had lost his own birth certificate? Not very likely, as he would have needed it at various times to apply for state-issued documents. How, for example, did he apply for a passport without it? Why ask for a new one if he had one that he used before?

Lots of people lose their birth certificate. It's one of those things you need just often to have lost the last copy you got by the time the need next arises. And when you are a multimillionaire with an army of advisers and lawyers, why not just have one them go get a copy whenever you need it? It's only money. It's only carbon.

[butterdezillion]

Hard to say. His explanation was that he was looking for proof of the Kenyan birth. As a researcher I can say that sometimes things get destroyed because you only know its value later. Sometimes the smallest things become important. Still, what claimed to be Obama’s BC from somebody at the HDOH should have been recognized as significant. If they can show that the Kenyan-birth one with Grandma Dunham’s name misspelled originated at the HDOH it would corroborate his claims. And it does look to me that the 2 documents (the Kenyan one and the forgery Obama just posted) came from the same place because of the anomalies that occur in both.

I’m going to be gut-level honest and say that I don’t think Obama would ever have allowed this pathetic forgery to see the light of day unless he ultimately knows it’s not going to matter. Same thing with Gunwalker and a host of other blatant illegalities. Obama is more and more willing to let his treachery against America be seen in the open. I don’t think he would do that unless he was planning on there not being a 2012 election OR time for Issa or any other prosecutor to bring a case against him.

To make the forgery this blatant almost makes it seem like he WANTS us to be busy debunking the forgery while his thugs work on something else - something that will render his treason moot.

The US has a lot of technology that is intended to be used for good, but which in the wrong hands can be used for bad. Obama’s hands are the wrong hands. He hates this country. And he will use everything in his power to lash out at those who haven’t kissed his you-know-what. We see that with FEMA refusing to help states which have opposed his policies. States overwhelmed with unprecedented tornadoes and floods, with several of them also having a rash of small earthquakes and things like large numbers of birds falling out of the sky.

I say keep your eyes peeled. The guy is up to no good. Be ready for anything.

[butterdezillion]

I wondered about that. So they changed their policy right after that. Now there’s no proof that Tsunamigeno looked in the book. And the fact is, he didn’t look in the book they have displayed now. He was shown a different book.

I wonder when was the first point at which they said a person would have to sign in to see an index book.

[bluecat6]

Thank you...

[bluecat6]

Staples? So the State of Hawaii prints their documents on paper from Staples? And they just use ordinary cotton based paper with lots of residue? Who knew...

At least someone has offered some explanation.

But as any forensic document specialist will indicated - you need the original document to make a factual determination. Images are fun forum fodder and good media propaganda but real documents can resolve this in no time. May it is time for the games to end.

Given the WH used a web browser print of the COLB from SNOPES they seem to have trouble finding their own copy.

You might need to read up on how actual security paper and the unique print process that goes with it actually work. Oh - and brush on manual typewriters and the accurate age of Obama senior at the same time. But at lest this was a somewhat plausible response - the first in 2 years.

[machogirl]

You aren’t kidding. I’ve never seen anything like it. It’s non-stop ruination of this country.

[JPII Be Not Afraid]

Video 2 can be found here, but after watching the videos again it is video 4 at about 1:24 where he starts talking about the links. That's where it gets interesting.

[cynwoody]

Staples? So the State of Hawaii prints their documents on paper from Staples? And they just use ordinary cotton based paper with lots of residue? Who knew...

I've seen those kinds of flaws in many different grades of paper.

As a matter of fact, the Bureau of Printing and Engraving purposely contaminates their paper with randomly distributed little colored fibers. That's in addition to a number of other security features, such as microprinting. You can see both microprinting and little random fibers in the 1200 dpi scan below.

But counterfeiting money and counterfeiting birth certificates are two very different propositions. You could ask the Bureau if they ever printed a $20 with a certain serial number, but an affirmative answer would not tell you much. Two twenties are twice as valuable as one, and you have no way to determine if there is more than one with your serial number. You have to rely in document analysis.

In contrast, one Obama BC is as good as another. All that matters is that all say the same thing as what's on file at the DoH. So, there's no point in forgery, and you don't need document analysis.

[Hotlanta Mike]

I really, really hope Trump does what needs to be done. He needs to call the newest forgery a forgery and invite Obama to sue him for libel so this “duel” can move to the courtroom where it belongs - where legal discovery of all the records and the transaction logs for the records can happen. At that point the actions of both the HDOH and the Obama thugs will be exposed, which is what really needs to happen.

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Alinskyites will ridicule Trump, but not sue for fear of being exposed to legal discovery. Lucas Smith and his “fake” Kenyan bc were never even paid a visit by the US Secret Service.

[Ladysforest]

I’ll go out on a limb here and say it was the next person who looked at it after TG. Bout damn guarantee it. TG did have to fill out little request slips, did have to hand over his ID, but said there was no “sign in book”.

[CommieCutter]

I figured you could use a graphic.

Looks like you could also use a chill pill.

[SatinDoll]

I found this at Lame Cherry. Very convoluted but attempts to explain the BC found in the lepers file drawer. To look at the graphics you’ll have to go to the link.

http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2011/05/takeyuki-irei-pi.html

Takeyuki Irei PI

I have a scenario which Hawaiian PI Takeyuki Irei should have read here as he and Jerome Corsi would know what they are looking at, instead of three forgeries meant to screw with Birthers.

Thee original which is above is thee Obama record of birth as this blog stated from day one. What the PI and others see as a disqualification in a misspelled Gram Dunham name is in reality explained as this blog broke this story.
Gram Dunham fearing that the lying multi wived Barack sr. in hauling Stan Ann to Africa was going to forever bury her into the bush. Gram was an astute old sleeping her way to the top gal, and it might have been Frank Marshall Davis counselling, but in order to save her daughter Mad Dunham created an anchor baby by OVER THE PHONE telling a weepers tale to the register in Hawaii, who gladly registered Barack jr. legally as born in Kenya as the reason for the delayed filing.

There was either a phone call or a telegram with the exact time of birth obtained by Madelyn who then registered Barry as she never trusted senior Obama.

This blog exclusively noted the White House abstract was signed with the same felt tip pen, which there were not felt tip pens in 1961 America nor the world. The handwriting looks the same, and this is vital, as you will NOTICE THAT THE SAME PEN, SAME WRITING STYLE appear in the Gram Dunham original.
The register filing this had no idea how to spell Madelyn or Madlyn, or, more to the point was nervous in filing this in forging people’s names that being in a hurry, they made a mistake in spelling the name.

Takeyuki Irei PI states there were 3 birth records floating about and he had one which mirrored the Obama abstract just released which has been manipulated in being filled out at two different times.

Bear with me as we lay this bare, AS ALL THREE of these forgeries are real, and while Obama is screwing with Americans in this, these documents were not created to screw with Birthers as the Magnum PI has concluded.

Recall now the exclusives of this blog in laying this out, that there are THREE periods in B. Hussein Obama’s life.

His birth in Kenya, created the above original filing filled out completely by the register.

Next, Stan Ann divorced Barack sr. in a messy proceeding where she accused him of being a wife beater. Sr. could have cared less about Barry, unless he was an anchor baby to keep him in America as he was desperate to escape deportation.
It is well known that Sr. was mounting another woman in trying to marry her so he would not be deported.

Stan Ann in playing this game, was not going to lose this welfare ticket child in Barry. So she once again went to this crooked registration system, and while I do not know if she screwed the guy for it or Gram bribed them again, but this created the second birth certificate which placed Barry as born at one of the Hawaiian hospitals.

We now come to the disposable Obama as Lolo Soetoro was apparently trying to make wife out of this self centered sex pervert Stan Ann in slapping her around for disobeying the 3rd world wife roles.
She hooked up with the lesbian maid, and dumped Barry back into Hawaii...........

This is where thing became interesting as Stan Ann was working for the State Department at the Embassy. It appears somehow that birth document number two was either misplaced into the lepper colony files as Magnum PI states these files are kept, or the registration office being checked by the federal government knew this second document fraud would not hold up, as Barry Obama had been adopted by Lolo Soetoro at Stan Ann’s behest.
Digging would have found Barry Soetoro was born in Kenya, was not an American to begin with, and there was not in any way in 1971 that this bastard of the third world was going to be let back into these United States.

So document number three was manufactured with the second hospital as hospital number one was in the position that they if asked were not going to join in a felony fraud for some 3rd world runs like a duck sociopath.

As exclusive, this completely explains the reason sister Mya thought Obama was born someplace else in her time, because that is the cover lie which was told to get Barry back into America..........and hospital one was from an earlier lie, and the original document was........well for all one knows as Gram Mad was a hot looking chic yet back in 1961 maybe she took it out in trade too in the first certified fraud for Barry Dunham Obama Soetoro.

All three of these documents are real. They are all criminal forgeries created for different times in Obama’s global hopping existence.

Now you know what has taken place, and the web of Obama lies is catching that smug bastard more each day, even if he thinks he has this buried like Watergate.

The Birthers are absolutely correct in all of this. All stories match the Birther charges and I hope
Takeyuki Irei PI works this for his fortune he desired........would be nice if he bought me a Hawaiian ranch in being Inspired to put this all into scenario for the children.

agtG 244

[GregNH]

I have asked everyone I know and none of us can remember having vaccination papers. We were vaccinated in school, period.

Now if one were coming from another country then there would be mandatory vaccinations required and proof there of.

[GregNH]

The Blaine BC, the one that Lame Cherry is claiming to be THE ONE, has been without question proven a forgery.

[SatinDoll]

Thanks. There are so many Obama BCs floating about, it is hard to keep track of them!