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Could Rand Paul and Ron Paul be Zionists?
The View From Masada Blog ^ | February 17, 2011 | Matityahu Ben-Yosef

Posted on 05/29/2011 11:37:51 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist

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161 posted on 05/30/2011 6:52:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Christian_Capitalist; SunkenCiv; OldNewYork

I agree that all foreign aid should end. In so far as ROnPaul does not want Israel destroyed, I suppose he is a Zionist. However, Ron Paul is no friend of Israel. He reflexively supports Israel’s enemies every time Israel launches a major operation.


163 posted on 05/30/2011 7:54:14 PM PDT by rmlew (No Blood for Sarkozy's re-election and Union for the Mediterranean)
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To: SunkenCiv

The guy talked like a disruptor troll. I’m surprised he made it as far as he did.


164 posted on 05/30/2011 7:58:14 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rmlew

“I agree that all foreign aid should end. In so far as ROnPaul does not want Israel destroyed, I suppose he is a Zionist. However, Ron Paul is no friend of Israel. He reflexively supports Israel’s enemies every time Israel launches a major operation.”

I don’t know Ron Paul’s record on this well - the original poster seemed to have lots of information on this in support of him, and others on here have strong opinions against him, but I haven’t seen much of their information. The OP was banned - I think from re-posting threads that were taken down for lack of a link to an acceptable site, and according to most people here on this thread, for having a history of doing things like that.

I can’t speak for the motives of the original poster, but I would guess that by calling them Zionists he meant to strongly counter that they were anti-Israel or anti-Jewish, which I’ve often seen alleged here (entirely of Ron Paul until the other day, please see below), rather than that they were actual Zionists. That’s how I saw it, anyway. I wouldn’t have agreed that their stances made them Zionist, just that they both are non-interventionist in general, in keeping with things like George Washington’s address to the nation at the end of his two terms as president, not specific to Israel, and not with hostility toward Israel.

Others here would have better information on Ron Paul’s statements on Israel than I would, and I’m not familiar with Rand Paul’s beyond the general non-interventionist policy I’ve mentioned, though the other day here someone criticized him for not attending Netanyahu’s speech to Congress, which I haven’t seen much more on.


165 posted on 05/30/2011 8:36:02 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Brett11
Yeah, but my position is simply that neither Congress nor the executive branch should earmark...

Paul makes a good argument that all federal spending should be earmarked - i.e. all funds allocated should be for a specific, defined purpose.

Regardless, I'm sure you, me and him all agree that fed spending is grossly out of control and needs to be drastically reduced.

166 posted on 05/31/2011 4:16:25 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Your paultard buddy got the zot.......

Congratulations! When I'm losing a debate I, like you, always attempt to silence the voice that's besting me.

Get enough of us (the rational, the civil, the intelligent, etc.) banned and you brain-dead, big-gov't RINO morons will have this site all to yourselves.

Won't that be fun!

167 posted on 05/31/2011 4:29:17 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: truthfreedom
I put real pix of the 2 Rons up for a number of reasons, usually when I see fake pix.

My post was really sarcasm directed at those who try to smear Dr. Paul by saying he's anti-semitic. I enjoy seeing those pics when you post them. Must really piss off the anti-Paul crowd - keep posting!

It's no wonder Paul and Reagan were close at one time - Reagan campaigned on a very good platform of smaller, less intrusive gov't. That's why I was so disappointed in him, and became so disillusioned with the political process... he showed that a politician doesn't even have to be lying when he campaigns one way and governs in a completely opposite manner.

I think Reagan truly believed in his small-gov't message but just took the easy route. He decided that it was easier to give in to the left on one issue to get his way on another. As a result, he just slowed the downhill course the nation had been on for decades, when he should have been attempting to reverse it.

168 posted on 05/31/2011 4:55:04 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
Pffft, please tell me you're not that naive.

Your buddy got himself zotted, I had nothing to do with it.

Did you see all of the comments that were removed by the mods?

He was a twisted moron, he silenced himself.

169 posted on 05/31/2011 2:05:53 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Did you see all of the comments that were removed by the mods? He was a twisted moron, he silenced himself.

More than one of those comments removed was yours, if not all.

170 posted on 05/31/2011 2:50:28 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
More than one of those comments removed was yours, if not all.

Ah, no....the only comment of mine that removed was because I used the BS phrase (not abbreviated in case you live in Rio Linda)...try again.

171 posted on 05/31/2011 2:57:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: OldNewYork

So who got the zot?

Not me.


172 posted on 05/31/2011 3:01:14 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You had the appearance of being disingenuous, as if those missing posts were to be imagined by people who didn’t get to read them as vulgar, inflammatory things the original poster said, rather than things you said. And it seemed to me that some of your consistently bringing it to the low level you did was a major contributing part to this.

But sure, keep it up. At this rate you’ll soon enough owe the majority of posters on this thread apologies.


173 posted on 05/31/2011 6:14:46 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Ah, no....the only comment of mine that removed was because I used the BS phrase (not abbreviated in case you live in Rio Linda)...try again.”

Not true. Posts of yours, plural, were removed. So, in a phrase you like: try again.


174 posted on 05/31/2011 6:17:36 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
Not true. Posts of yours, plural, were removed. So, in a phrase you like: try again.

You really are an idiot, oops I mean paultard, aren't you?

176 posted on 05/31/2011 7:17:06 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: OldNewYork

YOU, are a liar.


177 posted on 05/31/2011 7:19:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I’ll combine your two posts:

“YOU, are a liar.

You really are an idiot, oops I mean paultard, aren’t you?”

These have been your consistent responses - nothing of substance, and never having learned the lesson, even at your age, that throwing mud at people dirties you too.

I know, because at least two of the posts deleted were from you to me, and further down the continuum of baseless insults you’ve been trading in. And two is more than one. Maybe there were more? So either you’re lying above, in which case there’s not much point trusting anything you say, including trusting a liar’s accusation of someone else lying; or you’ve simply forgotten, but are so close to drowning in your own vitriol, that not even remembering will bring an apology out of you once you do. Which is it?


178 posted on 05/31/2011 7:32:35 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: OldNewYork
Which is it?

I'll take you're a pultard for $1,000.00, Alex.

RP is a retard, he is not welcome here nor are his lunatic supporters.......keep it up, you won't be here long either.

179 posted on 05/31/2011 8:28:47 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Woah, Obama will appease Trump, but not Lakin? Thanks LSM)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

How often do you find that your behavior is someone else’s fault?

Sounds like you’re down $1000 as well as not addressing whether you’ve lied or just forgotten. You might very well be gone sooner than anyone on this thread.

I’ve already addressed what connection I have to Ron Paul above, as anyone can see.


180 posted on 05/31/2011 8:41:13 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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