New Strunk Filing in New York Supreme Court: Take Note Obots; Grab the Popcorn Patriots!

BirtherReport.com ^ | Tuesday, May 31, 2011 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

[Hotlanta Mike]

Christopher Strunk v. New York State Board of Elections, et al. - Combined Response w Exhibits to Barack Obama / John McCain Motion to Dismiss - Supreme Court of the State of New York Kings County

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“We leased the Canal Zone and operated it administratively - we never owned it outright.”

Not true. That is a total misinformed and misconception. And please don’t try arguing with someone who was born here and continues to live here.

We the taxpayers bought every square inch of the Canal Zone.

Every square inch belonged to the U.S.

Jimmmy Carter decided to give our property away.

[kabar]

As for born overseas to two USC parents being natural born it appears you are wrong. in 1790 congrees passed a law stating such then revoked it as it was not an amendment. That gives more ammunition to the fact that born overseas to two usc parents is not natural born. if so why pass a law? Kinda like the resolution.

As someone who had a child overseas as well as issuing passports and visas, I do know that my daughter is automatically a citizen entitled to all of the rights and benefits thereof. Whether she can run for the Presidency will be a matter for the courts to decide. I do know that there have been precedents.

John McCain ran for the Presidency in 2008. He also ran in 2000 and did not get the nomination. Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860 — one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment requires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase “natural born Citizen” includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. territory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964.

So there is still hope for my daughter who just turned 35.

I did not say pass a law defining natural born citizenship for eligibility for the Presidency. The law I want passed is against birthright citizenship, which is the law of the land and part of US Code.

[Beckwith]

McCain’s case is most certainly settled law. McCain gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act — “by statute.”

Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

Sec. 303. [8 U.S.C. 1403] Persons born in the Canal Zone or the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this Act, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

[Beckwith]

Re: “a person born to American parents abroad is a “US citizen”, but not a Natural Born Citizen which is a “sub-set.”

Actually, “natual born” is a superset, not a subset.

[American Constitutionalist]

” Those who are still confused are confused because they want to be.” you forgot about those who are paid to be confused, and doing the confusing.

[kabar]

McCain’s case is most certainly settled law. McCain gets his citizenship via the Immigration and Nationality Act — “by statute.”

His citizenship is undeniable. It doesn't matter if he was born in Panama or some other country. The question is whether he is a natural born citizen under the Constitution eligible to run for the Presidency.

"A child born abroad to two U.S. citizen parents acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under section 301(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provided that one of the parents had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the child’s birth. The child is considered to be born in wedlock if the child is the genetic issue of the married couple.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

“As someone who had a child overseas as well as issuing passports and visas, I do know that my daughter is automatically a citizen entitled to all of the rights and benefits thereof.”

Yes, as myself. But I still can’t run for president but the U.S. is glad to take my taxes.

When are you going to learn to read?

[kabar]

LOL. Read what? I do know that John McCain was on the 2008 ballot. And so were the other examples I cited of people born outside the US, including one elected Vice President.

This is not settled law. SCOTUS has never ruled on the definition of natural born citizen as it applies to eligibility to run for the President per the Constitution.

[Hotlanta Mike]

Notice that Tribe/Olson referenced Wong Kim Ark case in their opinion along with other citations.

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I must have missed something. Did Tribe/Olson amend the US Constitution or are they merely stating an opinion?

[kabar]

They were stating their opinion, the same as you are. I venture to say that they have a more extensive background on this issue than you do. Regardless, the fact that the Senate felt it necessary to get their opinion in order to determine McCain's eligibility and pass a Resolution demonstrates that this is not settled law.

As I have said previously, the Senate had no business or authority to pass such a resolution, but they did. Evenutally this will have to come before the SCOTUS. It can't continue in a country where one out of every 8 residents is foreign born and that will increase to one in every five by 2050. We need clarity and SCOTUS is the only one to do it. If and when they decide, we may need a constitutional amendment to correct what they rule if that is what the people want.

[urtax$@work]

The three Ps of Natural Born Citizen.

Place, Parent A Citizen Status, Parent B Citizen Status .

[Hotlanta Mike]

Watch the video by Pixel Patriot and become enlightened...

Explosive Video: The brilliant “natural born Citizen” researcher Pixel Patriot now has an official home on the Internet hosting his numerous essays on the Obama eligibility issue. Pixel Patriot just published his blog’s debut post on recent news regarding 2011 presidential candidate Andy Martin, FOIA requester Chris Strunk, Donald Trump, LTC Terry Lakin, Karl Rove, including details on Sun Yat-sen, Raila Odinga and of course the true definition of “natural born Citizen.” Please watch the video before reading.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/eligibility-expose-constitutional.html

[Hotlanta Mike]

Watch the video by Pixel Patriot and become enlightened...

Explosive Video: The brilliant “natural born Citizen” researcher Pixel Patriot now has an official home on the Internet hosting his numerous essays on the Obama eligibility issue. Pixel Patriot just published his blog’s debut post on recent news regarding 2011 presidential candidate Andy Martin, FOIA requester Chris Strunk, Donald Trump, LTC Terry Lakin, Karl Rove, including details on Sun Yat-sen, Raila Odinga and of course the true definition of “natural born Citizen.” Please watch the video before reading.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/eligibility-expose-constitutional.html

[Hotlanta Mike]

Must be born within the “jurisdiction of the United States”...

Watch the video by Pixel Patriot and become enlightened...

Explosive Video: The brilliant “natural born Citizen” researcher Pixel Patriot now has an official home on the Internet hosting his numerous essays on the Obama eligibility issue. Pixel Patriot just published his blog’s debut post on recent news regarding 2011 presidential candidate Andy Martin, FOIA requester Chris Strunk, Donald Trump, LTC Terry Lakin, Karl Rove, including details on Sun Yat-sen, Raila Odinga and of course the true definition of “natural born Citizen.” Please watch the video before reading.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/eligibility-expose-constitutional.html

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

If you would read the article from start to finish, you would not be asking stupid questions and making stupid remarks.

You are trying to convince me, a person born and raised in the Canal Zone and still lives here that I am wrong. For folks who never lived here and know better than we do, you are brain dead.

[urtax$@work]

need to get a ruling from SCOTUS defining the meaning of "natural born citizen" as it applies to eligibility under the Constitution,

PARADIGM SHIFT : No defining necessary, just application of said law.

[allmendream]

Why don't YOU watch it and tell me why Vattel is an authority and his book “the blueprint for our Constitution” when a mistranslated blurb is used - but Vattel is completely ignored in #217 when he says that the children of servicemen born overseas are ‘deemed’ to be born in country?

From what I can see.....

Vattel is unassailable when what he says supports your position.

Vattel is a nobody when what he says DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS what the pople misquoting him are trying to say.

Go to this webpage, read #217 book #1 and be elightened.

http://home.earthlink.net/~dybel/Documents/LawOfNations,Vattel.htm

[kabar]

It has nothing to do with being “enlightened.” I live in the real world. This country is going down the toliet economically and we are being colonized by the Third World. At this point, Obama’s and McCain’s eligibility is far down the list of issues that need addressing. I am devoting my energies to the upcoming elections in VA, next year’s General Assembly session, and the daily ongoing battle I am engaged in to change our immigration policies.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

See what we started today?

I love it.

Thank you again.