•Pidgeon found at the Consulate in British Columbia, just over the US-Canada border, a record of a name change from “Barak Mounir Ubayd” to “Barack Hussein Obama” in 1982.
Posted on 06/06/2011 5:25:25 AM PDT by Beckwith
On June 3, Steven Pidgeon gave a terrific interview on Trunews, discussing new and important information contained in his book, The Obama Error. This is worth listening to the entire hour discussion. Some important tidbits:
•Pidgeon found at the Consulate in British Columbia, just over the US-Canada border, a record of a name change from “Barak Mounir Ubayd” to “Barack Hussein Obama” in 1982.
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If passport records are retained by the State Department, where are those of Stanley Ann Dunham for the years 1961-1964?
http://www.rightwire.net/2011/05/what-is-state-department-hiding-about.html
Better questions:
WHAT are they hiding?
WHERE was SAD, particularly the 6 months leading up to the purported birth? There is no evidence that she was in Oahu as she had dropped out of school.
WHEN will the truth will out?
The only pasport records the State Department keeps are are passport APPLICATIONS. They would tell you nothing about her travels.
As to their location, the State Department says it destroyed them, along with several others. This is not unusual.
WHAT are they hiding?
Nothing. That's because there wouldn't be any information in a passport application that would be worth hiding.
Seriously, have you ever applied for a passport? Do you have any idea what information goes into an application?
I'll tell you: very mundane things. Name, address, marital status, birth certificate or proof of citizenship, and the like.
None of this information would have any relevance whatsoever to Obama's eligibility.
WHERE was SAD, particularly the 6 months leading up to the purported birth?
Honolulu.
There is no evidence that she was in Oahu as she had dropped out of school.
Huh? So just because she dropped out of school you think it means she left Oahu? There's absolutely no reason to believe she was anywhere execpt the Hawaiian islands during those six months.
WHEN will the truth will out?
It has. Unfortunately, you refuse to accept it.
Sigh. Your belief is wrong. This particular birther myth was debunked over two years ago.
And yet birthers like you continue to repeat it as if it were gospel.
So sad. Don't you ever check your facts? It would literally take no more than five minutes on Google to verify that this factoid is false.
Yeah, I never bought the "Born in Kenya" thing. A month or so ago I saw a very good article explaining the virtual impossibility of a Kenyan birth. I am aware Barack and Michelle have indicated several times that he was born in Kenya, but i'm pretty sure the silly b@sturd doesn't know where he was born.
If you are going to try to make up an exotic persona, claiming your were born in "Kenya" just feeds the fantasy.
You're assuming the embarrassment was on her part. According to commentary from people who worked with Madelyn Dunham, they claim to have never known she had a grandchild. She apparently never mentioned it at work. Stanley was obviously not embarrassed in the slightest to have a bi-racial child.
Here's the scenario. Mom finds out Daughter is pregnant with a Black Child, ships her off to Aunt Eleanor in Blaine Washington. (Abortion was ILLEGAL in 1961) When she goes into Labor, they have to run to white rock for a maternity hospital, Mom finds out that the child is born in Canada, and immediately files a "born at Home" birth application to secure American Citizenship for her Grandson. Might not be true, but it sounds like a more believable story than the stuff Obama has proffered in his book. (Do you really think 17-18 year old pregnant Stanley had the money for an Airplane ticket in 1961?)
Remember, When Ann was dealing with paperwork between Hawaii and Indonesia, the American Passport people were questioning Barry's "Hawaiian birth." Apparently there was some sort of problem with it even back then.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35192432/Allen-v-USCIS-DHS-FOIA-Release-Lolo-Soetoro-Obama-s-step-Father-U-S-Records-7-29-10
A letter contained in these documents mentions that the Central Office had some questions about the Status of the Spouse's child from a former marriage. Apparently there was no proof presented that he was born in Hawaii other than his mother's say-so.
Speaking of which, Obama's released Passport is conspicuously missing the Roman numeral "II" indicated Barack Obama the Second. If his passport was copied from his birth certificate, it should have contained the "II" as illustrated on both his produced "copies."
Received a very hot letter from Berkebile’s niece informong me that Berkebile never lived in Blaine.
I took the Berkebile story down, but the possibility of a BC birth is real.
According to Radaris, she lived at two different Addresses in Blaine. MR. Berkebile was in the Air Force and was at one time (1959) STATIONED in Newfoundland Canada.
Niece Huh? I'm thinking it must have been on the Mr. Bekebile side of the Family. What evidence did she provide that she was a niece? Far as I know, Stanley was the only niece. Curious that such a niece would be following this topic. Usually it's only mentioned on "birther" threads, and it's curious that a Niece would be following those.
I'm willing to look at whatever you've got.
Yeah, when they put the words "True and Correct copy of the ORIGINAL record" then i'll grant it more credibility. At this point, it just says it's a copy OR abstract of the record on file. As an Adopted Child, I have TWO records on file. An ORIGINAL, and an AMENDED one. Till they stop using the weasel language and state unequivocally that it is ORIGINAL, then i'm not going to grant their document any "proof" status.
Nope. The August date on the transcript is a typographical error, already confirmed by the University. Fall classes in 1961 started on Sept. 18, not August 18. Some university clerk mistyped an "8" instead of a "9," so the earliest you can place her at the university is Sept. 18, plenty of time for a young mother to recover from a smooth, uncomplicated birth.
Fine, Provide a Link to your evidence and I'll accept it. Of course your statement conflicts with the Statement of her Friend Susan Blake who says unequivocally that Stanley Ann visited her at her home in August.
So? How is that indicative? Just because someone has an Aunt living in a small town somewhere doesn't mean she's living with her.
Because in 1961 it was common practice to send unmarried pregnant girls off to live with relatives to avoid the embarrassment of them being pregnant with a bastard child. The fact that Madelyn Dunham never mentioned her grandson to her co-workers seems to imply that she wasn't proud of him.
So?
So? Anyone that gave birth on August the 4th OUGHT to know how to change a diaper by the time they got to Seattle, wouldn't you think? The only way they WOULDN'T know how to change a diaper is if they hadn't been out of the Hospital (Where the nurses did it for them) for very long.
A friend. SAD went to high school in Mercer Island, and hence had friends living in the Seattle area. Haven't you ever borrowed a car from a friend?
Rich 18 year old friends, don't ya think? Generous too!
If she didn't HAVE a passport prior to 1964, it would indicate she was in the UNITED STATES. (Or Canada, where they are lenient about American's being there without a passport.)
I don't. I was responding to a Freeper who was speculating that she was sent to live with her Aunt in Blaine.
It wouldn't have been just before his birth, it would have been just before she started showing, say about February 1961?
Why?
Because in 1961 it was EMBARRASSING for your Daughter to be Unmarried and Pregnant. You must have been raised in a very different time period and culture to not be aware of this. Where did Stanley get the money for the ticket to fly from Hawaii to Washington? HMMMM????? From MOMMA.
I'll tell you: very mundane things. Name, address, marital status, birth certificate or proof of citizenship, and the like.
None of this information would have any relevance whatsoever to Obama's eligibility.
Yes it would. Stanley couldn't have traveled anywhere without a passport.(Except Canada.) If one didn't exist prior to August 1961, it completely disproves the "Kenyan" theory. (Which I thought was wrong from the beginning.) Also, Stanley "carried" Barack on her passport when she traveled to Indonesia. At some point she could no longer do this. It would be useful information to know when it was that he was dropped from her passport.
Huh? So just because she dropped out of school you think it means she left Oahu? There's absolutely no reason to believe she was anywhere execpt the Hawaiian islands during those six months.
Sure, she could have been traipsing after the Young Barack Sr. with her pregnant belly, embarrassing him, her mother and everyone else involved. Funny, none of his friends even knew OF Stanley Ann. They said so. Yeah, it's complete nonsense that she might have been sent off to live with Aunt Eleanor.
And yet birthers like you continue to repeat it as if it were gospel.
So sad. Don't you ever check your facts? It would literally take no more than five minutes on Google to verify that this factoid is false.
I have to agree with you on this. A warning from the State Department does not a ban make. A disinclination by Pakistan to admit Americans does not prove that it did not happen.
But she WAS married. The fact that she later divorced Obaam Sr. proves it. No court is going to grant a divorce unless there was a marriage in the first place.
But she WAS married. The fact that she later divorced Obaam Sr. proves it. No court is going to grant a divorce unless there was a marriage in the first place.
Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham
Newly released files reveal ‘couple’ didn’t live together
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=308229
No, they just show Obama Sr. was a deadbeat husband and dad who abandoned his family as soon as he had a chance. But we already knew that.
That's not the same thing as a sham marriage contracted for immigration purposes or other convenience. In point of fact, the evidence suggests in the documents suggests it couldn't have been a sham marriage, since Obama Sr. omitted mention of the fact that he was married to a US citizen in some of his visa applications.
Newly released files reveal ‘couple’ didn’t live together
Nope. They just show that the couple separated very soon after their marriage. Which, again, is consistent with what we knew before, namely, that Obama Sr. was a deadbeat.
Will you be posting a T-shirt where the author of this font stuff said he changed his mind about it, and doesn’t know what to think about it?
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