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Gerald Celente: “COLLAPSE: IT’S COMING! ARE YOU READY?”
SHTF Plan ^ | 6/13/11 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 06/13/2011 10:16:32 PM PDT by Kartographer

Trend forecaster Gerald Celente of the Trends Journal advises subscribers of his quarterly newsletter that the collapse is on it’s way and will become apparent to the population of the entire world in short order.

While pundits argue over whether or not a double dip recession is coming, many on the street have finally begun to realize that another recession is the least of our problems.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


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1 posted on 06/13/2011 10:16:36 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Didn’t China say we were default on our debt already?


2 posted on 06/13/2011 10:19:14 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You bet your sweet bippy.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/china-ratings-house-says-us-defaulting-report-054309883.html


3 posted on 06/13/2011 10:21:41 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Kartographer

“While pundits argue over whether or not a double dip recession is coming,”
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You mean the brain dead pundits, including some on FR.
There is, and never was, a “DOUBLE DIP” recession.
It has been a single scoop that just digs deeper and deeper
into an empty bucket.


4 posted on 06/13/2011 10:21:55 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Kartographer

That pic is from the first Terminator movie, showing Sarah Conner driving off into the Mexican storm.


5 posted on 06/13/2011 10:22:12 PM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Kartographer

If you haven’t already it’s time to prepare. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

If you haven’t started you may wish to download my Preparedness Manual:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

I think that we are at the very least in for a collapse much like that of Argentina’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index), but as a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and large scale violence (look at what happened just this past Memorial Day weekend)and then there is this is going on in Chicago:”Emanuel said he spoke with McCarthy over the weekend and again this morning about the situation. The mayor said the city’s reputation as a safe place to work and shop downtown is being endangered by the thuggery. Many of the attacks are happening near the biggest tourist and shopping attractions in the city.

But, CBS 2’s Jim Williams reports, the problem of mob attacks downtown is much bigger than the weekend beatings, according to beat cops who wanted to remain anonymous.”

And it’s not just Chicago most major big ‘Blue’ cities are increasingly reporting such flash mobs and gang muggings.

I see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t a “0bamamites’ yute” it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

And a little something for those who do not believe:
“Chance favors the prepared mind.”-Louis Pasteur


6 posted on 06/13/2011 10:22:23 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee; Nachum

“”…it has to be treated as if you are preparing for battle; expect the unexpected and prepare for the worst, which in these perilous times could be a declaration of economic martial law. Banks may close, currencies may be devalued and deposit withdrawals may be imposed. Remember Gerald Celente’s basic survival strategy, “GC’s Three G’s: Guns, Gold and a Getaway plan.””


7 posted on 06/13/2011 10:23:57 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: TruthConquers
Some how fitting I thought.

8 posted on 06/13/2011 10:27:11 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I used to laugh at such doomsday talk.....but, that was before we were running $1.5 trillion annual deficits and we had this clown in the white house...now it is a certainty that we are headed for really tough times.....
9 posted on 06/13/2011 10:31:20 PM PDT by There You Go Again
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To: Jet Jaguar
Good enough, but get away to where?
10 posted on 06/13/2011 10:33:17 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (CAIN/WEST 2012 - Because two bros are better than THE 0NE!)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

Someplace rural, away from the city folk who cannot fend for themselves.


11 posted on 06/13/2011 10:38:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!!


12 posted on 06/13/2011 10:40:31 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

LOL!!

That is pretty goood!!!


13 posted on 06/13/2011 10:40:41 PM PDT by TruthConquers (.Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
Survivalism Blake Sawyer Coast to Coast am 05-15-2011.mov

From the description:

In the first half, survival expert and health guru, Blake Sawyer, argued that the United States will no longer be a viable place to live, and people should consider immigrating to locations in the less populated Southern Hemisphere. Whether through war, disease, famine, natural disasters, or ruthless government, he predicted that 95% of those who remain in the US will be dead in the next 5-15 years. America has been targeted by the "globalists" to be taken out, he added.

Sawyer noted that the United States ranks highest in violent crime, and that countries in the Southern Hemisphere are much more tranquil. In particular, he highlighted nations in the southern region of South America as being good choices for survivability, specifically Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, and Ecuador. "I...believe that the average American does not know that they're the frog in cold water, and they think they're OK, and they're now boiling," he declared

14 posted on 06/13/2011 10:48:07 PM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: Creme Brulee

RUN! The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!...


15 posted on 06/13/2011 10:52:32 PM PDT by RC51
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To: Creme Brulee
people should consider immigrating to locations in the less populated Southern Hemisphere

Here's a good spot:


16 posted on 06/13/2011 10:54:42 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Jet Jaguar
"Someplace rural, away from the city folk who cannot fend for themselves. "

Why?

Everyone keeps saying that as if we're (rural folks) waiting with open arms. What the heck are you going to do when you get here? We all know each other...you'll just be a troublesome unknown outsider with zero supplies.

You may want to consider staying where there's people you know, eh? Get yourself stocked up while you're at it, you may get some unwanted visitors too.

17 posted on 06/13/2011 11:08:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I’m a city person. The cops will be defending their own neighborhoods. Gonna talk my block into going Vlad.


18 posted on 06/13/2011 11:28:22 PM PDT by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: blam; Creme Brulee

Exactly! I am also surprised that people think folk in the rural areas (as well as in the ‘Southern Hemisphere countries’ stated in the post by Brulee quoting that coast to coast station) would be willing to help. Why would they? Sure, the invaders (and that is how they will be seen) will probably be armed, but so will the people already living in those regions, and they know the area much better. Sure, the National Guard/Army/etc would be involved at some level, but consider that the S will be hitting the fan, and thus it will not be a simple Afghanistan/Iraq issue (and that issue was not ‘simple’ in any case, considering the ultimate sacrifices many brave men had to make). Thus, why would anyone assume people will be needing extra mouths to feed, particularly mouths that will not be able to do much to help (I doubt a New Yorker from Manhattan would be much help in a ranch, or if a ‘pretty girl’ from the Valley would be much help in the fields ...although I am sure other duties could be found that would not be PC in the modern world but would probably be happening in a SHTF scenario ....sad bad things). I feel that is one major assumption that is so totally wrong it couldn’t be more so! Particularly considering how, in the current state of things, people from Southern States are seen as stupid sots by people from the ‘bigger cities,’ and people from the Southern Hemisphere countries are seen as vermin. Hard to anticipate welcome mats when (and IF) things change.


19 posted on 06/13/2011 11:51:28 PM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: blam

I think the ideal is to get to a rural area BEFORE the SHTF. I’m trying to figure out how to do it.


20 posted on 06/13/2011 11:59:07 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Kartographer
I'm 60 years old. I've been through this kind of thing before. I trade stocks to make my living after 30 years at Southwestern Bell. When others are quivering, weeping as their 401K went to the dumpster, I would load up and get in with both feet. It has always worked in the past because this is America. We could always work our way out of these temporary messes and I instinctively would know that everything would eventually be fine after the avalanche of selling finally petered out.

This time, I'm nervous. In fact, I am more than nervous, I'm the one that is truly frightened.

A sane person must look at the cold facts and admit just how much these numbers represent. $14 trillion in debt? $1.5 trillion in deficit for as long as we can see? $200-$500 billion just in interest on the debt?

This could go waaaayy wrong in a nanosecond. What if interest can't be held down by Bernanke and his printing press? We could be paying trillions in interest alone in just a matter of days. You and I know the repubs will hold out for spending cuts to raise the debt limit. What if Obama won't budge and pushes the wimp repubs to the wall and makes no cuts? Will we really default to make a point?

We are already broke, we just have the ability to kick the can down the road till we break a toe. Eventually, just like a dentist visit, the tooth has to come out. It's there right in front of us, but are we really sure it's not going to be the end.

The only sure fire way to know if we will fail will be to see if I buy out of the money calls a few months out when the day comes. If that happens, America is done! We will be bankrupt never to recover. It will be all my fault. If I freeze and just stare at the screen, it will be like the flash crash and recover in an hour leaving me to mumble I coulda had a triple in one hour.

What we should be doing on FR is discussing the new barter system. How many .45 200grn hp does it take for a loaf of bread? How many 9mm = one .45? Can I get a pound of navy beans for a box of .223's? All these years of collecting and investing will finally pay off.

21 posted on 06/14/2011 12:51:34 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: Kartographer

Make no mistake, there are going to be no safe places for what is to come. The best place, with some preparation, is going to be where you are.

Just lay low, and don’t make it obvious that you might have an advantage over your neighbour in terms of food or supplies. People will tend to leave you alone if they think you’re as hurting as they are.

But do stock up on paper supplies, canned foods, bottled water. And whatever else you can. The larger supply of stock, the easier it will be to get through it, or at least delay your end for a time.


22 posted on 06/14/2011 1:45:40 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Kartographer

I think it’s funny when anybody suggests going to South America for safety.

You have to go through Mexico first.


23 posted on 06/14/2011 1:54:34 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

women should stock up on shampoo. Silly, but in the PBS series 1900s house, it was the lack of shampoo that bothered the women the most. People in that era only washed their hair once a month with an egg white mixture. Yuck!


24 posted on 06/14/2011 1:56:43 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: spetznaz

I don’t think the problem will be city folks leeching off country folks, in time of need.

Most people are willing to learn to work and contribute if that is what it takes to be part of a community. A city person may not have the country skills and work ethic, but they can learn them.

The real problem will be, whether or not, those in the country will even be able to provide for themselves adequately in a worldwide collapse, much less have to provide for those who aren’t family or friends.


25 posted on 06/14/2011 1:59:39 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: marsh2

That won’t be a problem, because you aren’t going to be able to afford the eggs anyway, assuming they will be available to buy.

You’re going to have to switch to something that can sit on a shelf for months before opening, like beer.


26 posted on 06/14/2011 2:02:18 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jet Jaguar

If history is any indication of the future, rural areas are where you die.

If you look at eastern Europe, when they collapsed during and after ww2, the city folks headed to the rural areas. They went in groups, often they were ex-soldiers, and decimated those who were isolated.

Antagonists in Hungary, Romania, Germany, Poland, Czech etc, turned the city population towards those in farmlands who had food, and those in rural areas suffered greatly.

Now, I’m sure every survivalist here could probably take on 30-40 armed thugs, just ask them. Heck, they all have enough water, and they don’t need to sleep. How one gets to the barn, and takes care of crops is another thing, we wont’ worry about that.

Attrition and time is always on the side of those laying siege, which is what they found out in Europe. I know, because my father in law told me the stories. He fled Hungary during the revolution because of this, and came to America.

Also, those in rural areas were quick to turn on each other, pointing out who had the best stockpiles, snitching on who was armed, etc, all in the sake of protecting themselves against the socialist gangs.

Many rural folks abandoned their farmsteads, and headed to the city, where there was actually a standing army to keep some peace.

Either place was bloody as heck, but those in rural areas who think they are Charles Bronson are going to be in for a rude awakening.

If American history is any lesson, farmers do well while we are at war outside of our country. In WW2 and WW1 when there was rationing, farmers did pretty good, but many headed to rural areas via train, because motorized transportation was not as popular. Such is not the case anymore, as any rural area is probably within an hour of a metro area with modern transportation.

I am not prescribing either location as a safe location, the main thing I think you can do is have a good network of people. Isolationists in either the cities or rural areas will suffer the most. Those who already have a large contingent of folks to group together with, who are willing to fight, will survive.

Also, city folk as you call them, historically fend for themselves much greater than rural folk. There is much more cover and resources in cities. Having seen urban warfare, I can tell you, I would personally rather lay siege to a well fortified farm, than a block of apartment buildings.

But, if being on a farm brings you comfort and a feeling of security, that is important as well, to a point, because panic of any sort will get you killed fast. Being in native terrain is very important. A rural person would not do well in a city, and a city person would not do well in a rural environment.

Outsiders in either case will probably be recognized, and dealt with swiftly. One can always recognize those of their own ilk, and are very suspicious of those who don’t/can’t fit in.


27 posted on 06/14/2011 2:10:32 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Jonty30

“I don’t think the problem will be city folks leeching off country folks, in time of need.”

Please take off your Rose glasses and seewhat is before you.

You are right and wrong in your statement. It will not be the city folk leeching the country folk in time of need. It will be the thugs that have killed the city folk, and have now come for the country folk.
The thugs have had free reign for 40 yrs, they are ruthless, we are not. That is civilised peoples are not.

In addition they will have the backing of the govt types.

We are entering an extremely dangerous time in this country’s history.
The way I see it it will either make or break the USA.
.


28 posted on 06/14/2011 2:25:48 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Nailbiter

The US is already broken and has been for a good thirty years, at least. One of the first moments that indicated that the US was in trouble was when it went from being the largest creditor nation to being in debt.


29 posted on 06/14/2011 2:43:40 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: chuckles
"What we should be doing on FR is discussing the new barter system. How many .45 200grn hp does it take for a loaf of bread? How many 9mm = one .45? Can I get a pound of navy beans for a box of .223's? All these years of collecting and investing will finally pay off. "

Top Post-Collapse Barter Items And Trade Skills

30 posted on 06/14/2011 5:17:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: Kartographer; Chunga85; LibertarianInExile; All; Lurker; FromLori; azhenfud; Wolfie; ...

Who holds most of our debt???

The FED RES????

They have been stealing our money illegally for a century now.

Spread the word and lets take back our country...

Income taxes are voluntary according to this Reid interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg

Dario Busch: Harrell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r37Fm7paVjs&feature=related

commissioner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSW_M5_jPkA&feature=related

Female commissioner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu0iSxAKxT0&feature=related

Whitey Harrell case:
The state of Illinois vs Whitey Harrell
http://www.aardvarkbusiness.net/chat/viewtopic.php?t=12502
PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL,

In deliberation, the jury asked the judge for a copy of the law Harrell was being tried for breaking, but the judge would not supply it. When they found that certain evidence admitted into the record during the trial by the defense was missing, they requested it of the judge and were again denied. They acquitted Harrell on all counts. Even though the parties were in state court and the official charge was “failure to file” state income tax returns, the case was really about the legal requirement to file a federal income tax return because, like most states, Illinois’ law mandates the filing of a state income tax return if the Illinois resident is required to file a federal income tax return. Harrell’s case is cited as PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS vs. GAYLON L. HARRELL, Case Number 97CF89 in the Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial Circuit, St. Clair County, Illinois.

http://www.netscientia.com/Truth_IRS.html

http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm

several chapters at this site
http://usa-the-republic.com/revenue/true_history/Chap4.html

This is from a blog, but it does give simplified explanation of our law...

Here i will stick up for Johnny:
First!
Johnny says “American Citizenship in a republican form of government has been effectively altered over many generations to US Citizenship in a democratic form of government centralized in Washington DC instead of a guaranteed “republican form of government” in the states where it was originally intended.”. ok now sing along with me folks.. I pledge allegiance to the flag... of the united states of America and to the (?)the word is republic.. for which it stands. NOT DEMOCRATIC.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 09:29 AM
second:

if you were born in the federal USA (Puerto Rico, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, or Swain’s Island) then you are a US citizen. if you were born anywhere else you would be a Sovereign Citizen.
look the definitions up in a dictionary if you have to.
you learned this stuff in middle school here folks.. how have you all forgotten this.
Congress may pass any law it wants to, in its federal jurisdiction.(Puerto Rico, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, or Swain’s Island). but congress may pass no law onto any state if it conflicts with the constitution. (remember this stuff in school). So if the constitution says you can do anything you want, so long as it does not hurt another. (long and short of it) how is buckle your seat belt a law? i wouldn’t hurt anybody if i didn’t wear my seatbelt? so how in the world could this possibly be a law? (ps its not really a law, its a statue) obviously it is in conflict with the constitution, so how can they uphold this statue as law in court?
it all has to do with the money you use today. (this post is going to get ugly here)
ok the constitution demands we use a currency that is backed by gold and silver as currency. if your not familiar with this, we do not use gold and silver. our government gave the right to print and monitor our money to a private bank. yes the federal reserve isn’t ours, our money isnt backed by gold or silver anymore. if your not familiar with this history look it up its not a secret.
so if the constitution demands gold and silver but you are using federal reserve notes that are not real, then the constitution does not recognize it.
i looked up these definitions for you:
Lawful:
(1)allowed or permitted by law; (2)not contrary to law:
legal:
(1)permitted by law; (2)of or pertaining to law; connected with the law or its administration.
so you see the constitution demands lawful currency, but the federal reserve note is legal tender, gold and silver are allowed by law, fed notes are connected with the law by its administration.

Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:09 AM

Here I have listed the direct definition of the Federal Reserve from the dictionary:
The Federal Reserve System (also the Federal Reserve; informally The Fed) is the central banking system of the United States. Created in 1913 by the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act, it is a quasi-public, private banking system.
Also note the word “quasi”… here is that definition:
Quasi: Seeming or seemingly but not necessarily genuine or genuinely.
The Constitution of the US, states that all currency will be backed by real money. (gold/silver)
However it is not. It is backed by a fiat currency owned by a foreign entity. (The FED) Why is it foreign? Because the Constitution says so. (The Supreme Law of the Land).
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:14 AM

it is foreign... hmmmm so back to the seat belt thing again, so maybe when i go to court before i even let the prosecutor even speak to me, i should request his or her “Foreign Agent registration statement” which is required by law to be on file with the secretary of state.
Now why in the world would a prosecutor of a court system have a foreign agent registration on file? Because they are operating out of a foreign court system, that why, its foreign. now why anyone would want to be tried in a foreign court system, better yet is how did this happen?
You accepted the benefit of using there fed notes, its gotta get paid back somehow. you see gold and silver can not be taxed its a substance. but fake money can be taxed, why.. the constitution does not see fed notes as real. so they can tax it all they want. please people do some research and forget about paris hilton for a few days.
let me just hit the Social security issue for a second. think about this.. i started working 25 years ago, the fake dollar (i didn’t know it then)was worth about 48cents that i paid into SS. Today if i retired, that same dollar today is worth only 4 cents. did i gain money or loose money at that point? you do the math
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:34 AM

The Federal Reserve, the IRS and a very dangerous court of law.
The Constitution of the United States mentions three (3) areas of jurisdiction in which the courts may operate:

(1) Equity Law
The first court we will talk about is the court of equity. A court of equity is a place to settle disputes, such as:
I hire a construction company to build my new home (there will be a contract between yourself and the construction company). After the home was completed, the roof leaked water into the living room every time it rained. If the construction company didn’t fix the problem, you would then take them to equity court for this dispute.
Equity Law is law which compels performance. It compels you to perform to the exact letter of any contract that you are under. So, if you have compelled performance, there must be a contract somewhere, and you are being compelled to perform under the obligation of the contract. Now this can only be a civil action—not criminal. In Equity Jurisdiction, you cannot be tried criminally, but you can be compelled to perform to the letter of a contract. If you then refuse to perform as directed by the court, you can then be charged with contempt of court, which is a criminal action.

(2) Common Law (Constitution Law)
If you have not read the Constitution, shame on you.
Common Law is based on God’s Law. Did you know the Constitution of the United States is the supreme law of the land? Well it is! The Constitution says “no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty, or possessions.” Basically the concept of, if there is no victim there is no crime. Anytime someone is charged under the Common Law, there must be a damaged party. This only makes sense. If I throw a rock at neighbors window, and it caused damaged, that would be an example of there was a victim (the neighbors property) so there was a crime. This could be accidental or intentional; there is still a victim, thus a crime.
Common sense question: When you cross over the state line in most states, you will see a sign which says, “BUCKLE YOUR SEAT BELTS—IT’S THE LAW.” Which law is this? This cannot be Common Law(2), because who would you injure if you did not buckle up? Common law does not compel performance, so that’s not it. Equity (1) court compels performance, but you can not be tried criminally, so that’s not it either. The only court left is:

(3) Admiralty/Maritime Law
This is a civil jurisdiction of Compelled Performance which also has Criminal Penalties for not adhering to the letter of the contract. Now we can see what jurisdiction the seatbelt laws (and all traffic laws, building codes, ordinances, tax codes, etc.) are under. Whenever there is a penalty for failure to perform (such as willful failure to file), that is Admiralty/ Maritime Law and there must be a valid international contract in force. However, the courts don’t want to admit that they are operating under Admiralty/Maritime Jurisdiction, so they took the international law or Law Merchant and adopted it into our codes.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:37 AM

COURTS OF CONTRACT:
You may ask how we got into this situation where we can be charged with failure to wear seatbelts and be fined for it. Isn’t the judge sworn to uphold the Constitution? Yes, he is. But you must understand that the Constitution, in Article I, Section 10, gives us the unlimited right to contract, as long as we do not infringe on the life, liberty or property of someone else. Contracts are enforceable, your drivers license is a contract and the Constitution gives two jurisdictions where contracts can be enforced—Equity or Admiralty. But we find them being enforced in Statutory Jurisdiction (there is no such thing, listed anywhere in the Constitution that says we can be tried in statutory law). This is the embarrassing part for the courts. We will cover this in more detail later.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:39 AM

CONTRACTS MUST BE VOLUNTARY
Under the Common Law, every contract must be entered into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally by both parties or it is void and unenforceable. These are characteristics of a Common Law contract. There is another characteristic—it must be based on substance. For example, contracts used to read, “For one dollar and other valuable considerations, I will paint your house, etc.” That was a valid contract—the dollar was a genuine, silver dollar. Now, suppose you wrote a contract that said, -For one Federal Reserve Note and other considerations, I will paint your house....’ And suppose, for example, I painted your house the wrong color. Could you go into a Common Law court and get justice? No, you could not. You see, a Federal Reserve Note is a “colorable” dollar, as it has no substance, and in a Common Law jurisdiction, that contract would be unenforceable.
The frustration many Americans feel about our judicial system can be overwhelming and often frightening; and, like most fear, it is based on lack of understanding or knowledge. Those of us who have chosen a path out of bondage and into liberty are faced, eventually, with the seemingly tyrannical power of some governmental agency and the mystifying and awesome power of the courts. We have been taught that we must “get a good lawyer,” but that is becoming increasingly difficult, if not impossible. If we are defending ourselves from the government, we find that the lawyers quickly take our money and then tell us as the ship is sinking, “I can’t help you with that—I’m an officer of the court.” Ultimately, the only way for us to have even a ‘snowball’s chance’ is to understand the RULES OF THE GAME, and to come to an understanding of the true nature of the Law.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:39 AM

The lawyers have established and secured a virtual monopoly over this area of human knowledge by implying that the subject is just too difficult for the average person to understand, and by creating a separate vocabulary out of English words of otherwise common usage. While it may, at times, seem hopelessly complicated, it is not that difficult to grasp—are lawyers really as smart as they would have us believe? Besides, anyone who has been through a legal battle against the government with the aid of a lawyer has come to realize that lawyers learn about procedure, not about law.
Consider also that the framers of the Constitution wrote in language simple enough that the people could understand, specifically so that it would not have to be interpreted. So again we find, as in many other areas of life, that -THE BUCK STOPS HERE!’ It is we who must take the responsibility for finding and putting to good use the TRUTH. It is we who must claim and defend our God-given rights and our freedom from those who would take them from us. It is we who must protect ourselves, our families and our posterity from the inevitable intrusion into our lives by-those who live parasitically off the labor, skill and talents of others.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:41 AM

ADMIRALTY COURTS
The reason they cannot call it Admiralty Jurisdiction is that your defense would be quite different in Admiralty Jurisdiction from your defense under the Common Law. In Admiralty, there is no court which has jurisdiction unless there is a valid international contract in dispute. If you know it is Admiralty Jurisdiction, and they have admitted on the record that you are in an Admiralty Court, you can demand that the international maritime contract, to which you are supposedly a party, and which you supposedly have breached, be placed into evidence. No court has Admiralty/Maritime Jurisdiction unless there is a valid international maritime contract that has been breached. So you say, just innocently like a lamb, “Well, I never knew that I got involved with an international maritime contract, so I deny that such a contract exists. If this court is taking jurisdiction in Admiralty, then place the contract in evidence, so that I may challenge the validity of the contract. What they would have to do is place the national debt into evidence. They would have to admit that the international bankers own the whole nation, and that we are their slaves. This they can not admit this openly in court! Remember the monies used today are “colorable”, the word “colorable” means something that appears to be genuine, but is not.

Maybe it looks like a dollar, and maybe it spends like a dollar, but if it is not redeemable for lawful money (silver or gold) it is colorable.’ If a Federal Reserve Note is used in a contract, then the contract becomes a “colorable” contract. And “colorable” contracts must be enforced under a “colorable” jurisdiction. So by creating Federal Reserve Notes, the government had to create a jurisdiction to cover the kinds of contracts which use them. We now have what is called Statutory Jurisdiction, which is not a genuine Admiralty jurisdiction. It is “colorable” Admiralty Jurisdiction the judges are enforcing because we are using “colorable money.” Colorable Admiralty is now known as Statutory Jurisdiction. Let’s understand how we get sucked into this Statutory Jurisdiction.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:41 AM

UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE
The government set up a “colorable” law system to fit the “colorable” currency. It used to be called the Law Merchant or the Law of Redeemable Instruments, because it dealt with paper which was redeemable in something of substance. But, once Federal Reserve Notes had become unredeemable, there had to be a system of law which was completely “colorable” from start to finish. This system of law was codified as the Uniform Commercial Code, and has been adopted in every state. This is “colorable” law, and it is used in all the courts. I explained in one of the keys earlier, which is that the country is bankrupt and we have no rights. If the master says “Jump!” then the slave had better jump, because the master has the right to cut his head off. As slaves we have no rights. But the creditors/masters had to cover that up, so they created a system of law called the Uniform Commercial Code. This -colorable’ jurisdiction under the Uniform Commercial Code is the next key to understanding what has happened.

CONTRACT OR AGREEMENT
One difference between Common Law and the Uniform Commercial Code is that in Common Law, contracts must be entered into: (1) knowingly, (2) voluntarily, and (3) intentionally. Under the U.C.C., this is not so. First of all, con-tracts are un-necessary. Under this new law, -agreements’ can be binding, and if you only exercise the benefits of a -agreement,’ it is presumed or implied that you intend to meet the obligations associated with those benefits. If you accept a benefit offered by government, then you are obligated to follow, to the letter, each and every statute involved with that benefit. The method has been to get everybody exercising a benefit, and they don’t even have to tell the people what the benefit is. Some people think it is the driver’s license, the marriage license or the birth certificate, etc. I really believe it is none of these.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:41 AM

COMPELLED BENEFIT
I believe the benefit being used is that we have been given the privilege of discharging debt with limited liability, instead of paying debt. When we pay a debt, we give substance for substance. If I buy a piece of candy with a silver dollar, that dollar bought the candy, and the candy bought the dollar—substance for substance. But if I use a Federal Reserve Note to buy the candy, I have not paid for it. There is no substance in the Federal Reserve Note. It is worthless paper given in exchange for something of substantive value. Congress offers us this benefit: Debt money, created by the federal United States, can be spent all over the continental united States, it will be legal tender for all debts, public and private, and the limited liability is that you cannot be sued for not paying your debts. So now they have said, “We’re going to help you out, and you can just discharge your debts instead of paying your debts.” When we use this -colorable’ money to discharge our debts, we cannot use a Common Law court. We can only use a “colorable” court. We are completely under the jurisdiction of the Uniform Commercial Code—we are using non-redeemable negotiable instruments and we are discharging debt rather than paying debt.
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:43 AM
maybe some more maybe not.. do some homework
Posted by: Argon | 02/15/2008 at 10:52 AM

oh just some more definitions:
Corpus Juris Secundom: the moment you hire an attorney you admit and give yourself as a ward of the court.
Ward of the court: an infant, or a person of unsound mind who is in-capable of handling his own legal affairs.
driving: is a regulated occupation for hire.
Posted by: argon | 02/15/2008 at 11:16 AM

http://remblogs.typepad.com/sovcit/2004/09/become_a_sovere.html

And then there is this article. It has every link to every statue necessary.

http://www.sedm.org/Forms/Tax/Withholding/W-8BEN/AboutIRSFormW-8BEN.htm


31 posted on 06/14/2011 5:21:53 AM PDT by phockthis
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To: Jonty30
"The real problem will be, whether or not, those in the country will even be able to provide for themselves adequately in a worldwide collapse, much less have to provide for those who aren’t family or friends."

Yup. That is the issue, it won't be 'peaches & cream' out in the country either. I'm 67, my stash of supplies contain enough and a large variety of things that I hope to be able to influence (feed) younger people for their support.

Some of us older guys are already referring to ourselves as 'the council of elders.' (Nervously joking at the moment though)

32 posted on 06/14/2011 5:27:55 AM PDT by blam
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To: marsh2
Dry shampoos work well. A corn starch/corn meal mixture rubbed well into the scalp, then combed through takes the sebum off the roots (making the hair look cleaner and 'perkier') while distributing the oils evenly over the length of the hair (making it softer, shinier, and more manageable).

If corn meal isn't available, saw dust is said to work well . (I've never tried it.) Others have tried something called a 'Mexican shampoo' : Take a coarse terrycloth wash rag or small towel (NOT a fine terry cloth or one that has been laundered with fabric softener ) and use it to 'pull' the sebum off the scalp and down the length of the hair , one section at a time.

I don't recommend the dry shampoos in a can :I find they always leave a white talc-y residue on the hair. But a corn meal rub/comb, followed by a plain water rinse works well.

I still use store shampoo, but only 2 or 3 times a week, and only if it's paraben/SLS/petroleum free. Since I started this regime , my hair looks thicker and healthier. When I used ordinary shampoo every day, it would look good for maybe a few hours, then it would look very greasy and lank, because I had strpped out the sebum, causing the glands to work overtime to put the sebum BACK on my scalp, the glands would over do it,causing my hair to look very thin and lank, making me feel I HAD to shampoo it daily to give it any body at all, stripping the oils and out and-well, you get the idea. Now I run water through it daily when I shower, use the cornmeal/corn starch rub when needed, a baking soda mix maybe once a month (it's harsh) , and using the organic shampoo maybe 1-3 times a week. My hair will never be luxuriant (it's fine textured, and not overly thick) but it LOOKS thicker than it ever did when I was shampooing it daily, and it has way more body and 'lift' at the scalp, instead or just lying limp and flat.

Not everyone agrees with the idea that SLS/Paraban/petroleum shampoos are bad or that using them daily is counter productive, and that's fine : I just thought my experience with dry shampoos and shampoo substitutes might be helpful for dire/apocalyptic circumstances when store bought shampoos might not be available. (Asssuming under such circumstances we'll even *care* about how our hair looks-! :-D )

33 posted on 06/14/2011 7:22:05 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital! This has been a spelling PSA. PS Secede not succeed)
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To: esoxmagnum
Outsiders in either case will probably be recognized, and dealt with swiftly. One can always recognize those of their own ilk, and are very suspicious of those who don’t/can’t fit in.

You DO NOT want to be the one that showed up when the trouble started.

34 posted on 06/14/2011 9:22:37 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 874 of our national holiday from reality. - Obama really isn't one of us)
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To: chuckles

We can get out of this in five years if we open up currently public lands to energy, mining, and forestry.

I believe that. The jobs are there, there’s cheap money to loan, and there are unions available to teach skills like welding. I know that last sentence sounds funny, but I remember a day when they used to train their folks quite well.

We need a leader willing to stand up and say, “Here’s where we are at, and here’s what we are going to do.”

The first environmentalist that says something out of key should be bound, gagged, and deported to New Zealand. They can colonize out there, and if they can generate enough GDP, then they can make war on the rest of us here in the US who decided to dig their way out of the hole they dug.

We aren’t dead yet. In fact, resources-wise, we are fixed pretty well. We have a moat, one border that’s mostly desert to defend, and we’ve just had record floods, which means we have water and silt covered farmlands.

Seriously, any environmentalist that can’t propose an alternative economic plan that can work in the next 90 days will be told to stuff it.

Cut the EPA back to nothing in terms of enforcement, and let the economy run hog wild for three years - pulling back in year four to make sure we haven’t legitimately destroyed some ecosystem somewhere, and then keep going.

The barriers to our recovery are ARTIFICIAL. They aren’t REAL. We didn’t run out of ANYTHING HERE.

China’s sold off 97% of it’s US debt, so telling them we won’t be needing 40% of their exports isn’t going to be the problem it used to be.

They are about to have a world of their own nightmares about to begin.


35 posted on 06/14/2011 9:42:49 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Nailbiter
The way I see it it will either make or break the USA.

I see us as already broken and headed on a self-destructive path. The only hope IS the coming chaos and perhaps, out of the ashes, will rise a country based on the Constitution - as written. It's our only hope.
36 posted on 06/14/2011 10:02:52 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: RinaseaofDs

Those are absolutely reasonable observations.

I think that yes, we are on the brink of revolution, but not in the form that the hand-wringers suggest. I don’t think it will be a bolshevik type revolution, I think it will be a revolution of common sense, as you have indicated.

Sure, there will be looting. I wouldn’t want to be a liquor store owner or manager of Best Buy in an urban area when that starts, but after a few days of burning cities, the thugs will be put down.

People will have had enough, and then the tarring and feathering of politicians will take place. When people can’t eat, all of this green nonsense will go bye bye, and those who were involved are sure to flee the country like despots. Al Gore will be living in South America or somewhere abouts, and all of those who ruined this country in the name of the environment will most likely be run out of town as well.

Union leaders and other antagonists will be targets as well. Eventually, folks will see that those who spend their life dividing and orchestrating strife are the real cause of their problems, not other Americans.

The left is working hard to ensure that that our Armed Forces deteriorate, because as it stands, they will stand with the American People. They will not turn their guns on citizens, because they are patriots. This is why DADT and the destruction of Christianity in the military is so important to the left. They know they could not rely on our boys to jack its own citizens (yet).

I think many police departments (not all) are a different story, and they would begin opening fire on anyone they perceive to be a threat to local politicians. Folks serve our country out of love for our country, while many become cops for the power trip and pension (at least here in Chicago).

Currently, I think if revolution were to occur, the environmentalists, the media types, union agitators, politicians, the very poor in the inner city, and banker types would be the most endangered species. Very much what happened to Germany, except the environmentalists weren’t targets, they were actually part of the peoples movement. They will be on the wrong side of the fence in this one.

I see a few months of rioting (almost assuredly in the summer time), then folks will start electing conservative pro-American types, not UN appeasers and poverty pimps. Americans will demand trials for those who cause the bloodshed, and that is when those who sold the country down the tubes will flee or be locked away.

At that time, principles be damned, as many of these politicians will change sides, and all the sudden turn on each other in an effort to save their skin. Watch for the Obama and Mitt types, the slimy snake oil salesmen to all the sudden see the error of their ways and start calling for congressional investigations into those who “duped them” and “destroyed America”, Folks like me and others who are educated, like those here, aren’t going to be falling for that, I can assure.


37 posted on 06/14/2011 12:07:11 PM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Kartographer

Dittos. It will only get worse before it gets better...

Thanks for the tip. Ping me with any posts related to preparedness please.


38 posted on 06/14/2011 2:29:29 PM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: hope_dies_last

Done


39 posted on 06/14/2011 3:11:42 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: marsh2

Vinegar works too.

The cleanest and shiniest my hair has ever been was when I would scrub my scalp with baking soda, then rinse with lemon juice. I stopped doing it because it got to be a hassle, I’d forget to grab those bottles until I was already in the shower.

Also, if you grate some lye soap and mix it with a little milk or water, it makes a decent shampoo.


40 posted on 06/14/2011 3:40:26 PM PDT by Ellendra (Remember the Battle of Athens, Tennessee: Aug. 2, 1946)
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To: Ellendra

sounds like great tips. thanks.


41 posted on 06/14/2011 4:28:19 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: RinaseaofDs

China’s sold off 97% of it’s US debt,
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i believe they only sold off their short term debt.
and i small part of their long term.
but, they still have plenty for now.

rest of your post is very interesting.


42 posted on 06/14/2011 4:31:52 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: esoxmagnum

Now, I’m sure every survivalist here could probably take on 30-40 armed thugs, just ask them. Heck, they all have enough water, and they don’t need to sleep. How one gets to the barn, and takes care of crops is another thing, we wont’ worry about that.
...
Either place was bloody as heck, but those in rural areas who think they are Charles Bronson are going to be in for a rude awakening.
/// lots of great posts here. but you make a key point here. getting overconfident, can get you, and those who depend on you, killed.
can’t predict anything. but you can prepare the best you can, be cautious, and team up with people you can trust.


43 posted on 06/14/2011 4:48:01 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Kartographer

Been stocking up and prepping for years now.. bring on the doom already.. quite frankly I am ready and if others are not.. oh well they didnt listen.


44 posted on 06/14/2011 6:05:15 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Elendur

Sorry my limit is only 29 to 39 armed thugs. :-(


45 posted on 06/14/2011 6:35:02 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Elendur

You’re welcome :)

Our names are so similar, and we keep winding up on the same threads. Pretty soon somebody’s going to get us mixed up :p


46 posted on 06/14/2011 7:56:30 PM PDT by Ellendra (Remember the Battle of Athens, Tennessee: Aug. 2, 1946)
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To: chuckles
A sane person must look at the cold facts and admit just how much these numbers represent. $14 trillion in debt? $1.5 trillion in deficit for as long as we can see? $200-$500 billion just in interest on the debt?

Tip of the iceberg. Add up all the entitlements, state and local included and you reach close to 140 TRILLION. Not gonna get paid, no how, no way.
47 posted on 06/14/2011 8:31:13 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: There You Go Again

Did you see bolden from NASA warning everyone to prepare for
Collapse?


48 posted on 06/14/2011 8:35:29 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: chuckles
All that needs to be done..is to do a Warren Harding...cut Fed Gov’mt by 50%...every agency budget and number of employees. Shutter the Unconstitutional agencies...in 5-7 years the economy will be on full afterburner.
49 posted on 06/14/2011 8:51:55 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: Kozak
Well the figure I heard was $60-$65 trillion in future liabilities. $140 trillion seems a little steep, IMHO, but hey, what do I know when you get to that many zero's.

The way that works in the Obama world is to set up a panel to decide who gets treatment and who doesn't and the ones who don't get treatment go to a place that plays pretty music while they grind you up into Soilent Green. Ergo, we save trillions on future payments. Chuckles Jr, by that time, will be paying so much in taxes that he will bring me to the factory himself. Course, he will collect the bounty Obama set up to turn in everyone that mentions they may need a hip replacement.

50 posted on 06/14/2011 10:39:28 PM PDT by chuckles
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