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Feds look to regulate food similar to tobacco, with hopes of saving money on health care
Daily Caller ^ | 6/23/2011 | Neil Munro

Posted on 06/22/2011 5:47:22 AM PDT by xtinct

The federal government has a growing interest in the eating habits of Americans for the same reason it has an interest in tobacco consumption, said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services.

The reason is money, because three-quarters of medical-spending is driven by chronic diseases, such as obesity and tobacco-related diseases, she said.

Sebelius’ comments came at the tail-end of Tuesday’s White House press conference where officials showcased nine new photos that must be carried on cigarette packs. Officials used a survey of 18,000 people to find the images that would have the most distressing impact on groups of smokers, including young smokers and mothers of young kids.

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TOPICS: Food; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cigarettewarning; dhs; fda; food; foodnazis; foodpolice; governmentintrusion; highertaxes; kathleensebelius; nannystate; obamacare; pufflist; regulateeating; smoking
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maggot n chief and his minions (all Democrats) need to be sent a message --> Get out of our lives !!
1 posted on 06/22/2011 5:47:26 AM PDT by xtinct
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To: xtinct
What part of Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness don't they understand?
2 posted on 06/22/2011 5:50:54 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire but I swear I didn't see him in the rearview mirror.)
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To: BipolarBob

All of it......


3 posted on 06/22/2011 5:52:22 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: xtinct
The reason is money, because three-quarters of medical-spending is driven by chronic diseases, such as obesity and tobacco-related diseases, she said.

When they figure out that old age is the root cause of medical spending we are all goners

4 posted on 06/22/2011 5:52:29 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Shhhhh!


5 posted on 06/22/2011 5:53:33 AM PDT by Judith Anne ( Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: xtinct
What's next? Ear tags, collars with bells and to learn the proper nuanced pronunciation of “moo”?
6 posted on 06/22/2011 5:54:24 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: xtinct

Yep, they plan to do just that.

In the dying breath of the Lame Duck Session the Congress and Senate passed HR2748/S.510/HR2751 (FDA food takeover bill) in the name of food safety. They sold this to Congress by saying we were under attack by terrorist who wished to poison our food supply. Not doubt they would like to, but this is a horror or a bill hatched in stealth at night. I have posted many times the Congressmen who voted for it.


7 posted on 06/22/2011 5:56:21 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: xtinct
Of course, the free market is the solution. Make people responsible for themselves. Make them pay for their own costs and let them make decisions based on how they want to live and what they want to spend.

The free market stares these government flunkies in the face and their conclusion is: "We need more government control".

Because it's not about health, it's not about cost, it's not about food.

It's about control.

8 posted on 06/22/2011 5:57:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: xtinct

According to the FDA - “There is no ‘deeply rooted’ historical tradition of unfettered access to foods of all kinds,”


9 posted on 06/22/2011 5:57:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: xtinct

So are they going to ban all junk food purchases with food stamps before the next election? ;-)


10 posted on 06/22/2011 5:57:14 AM PDT by almost done by half
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To: almost done by half

Junk food might be banned but they will not ban of premium steaks, lobster, shrimp, cookies, etc.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 5:59:45 AM PDT by Josa
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To: xtinct

This is another disaster in process. Central “planning” NEVER works.

Remember how high cigarette taxes are, now think of what that type of tax and regulation will do to our food supply. THAT is what we are facing.


12 posted on 06/22/2011 5:59:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: almost done by half
So are they going to ban all junk food purchases with food stamps before the next election? ;-)


13 posted on 06/22/2011 6:00:01 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: xtinct

“We are just five days away from fundamentally transforming America”


14 posted on 06/22/2011 6:00:46 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: xtinct

How about this...start with the people already recieving taxpayer paid healthcare.

the ones living off the gubmint are far more likely to be fat and smoke than the rest of us.

And since the largest demographic of the largest people are African-American women, maybe Moose-smell should be havin a chat with her sistahs instead of cramping working-man whiteys style.


15 posted on 06/22/2011 6:01:03 AM PDT by digger48
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To: Voter62vb

Rations and MRE’s.


16 posted on 06/22/2011 6:01:26 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: xtinct
Hooray! MORE oppression by big government!

Prepare for the coming taxes on all the “unhealthy” foods ‘shellie tells us not to eat.

It's for our own GOOD people!

17 posted on 06/22/2011 6:04:25 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: xtinct

So to SAVE MONEY, the government demands that we do as they say and ignore the Constitution. How nice.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 6:04:38 AM PDT by Teacher317 (really?)
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To: xtinct

The left’s ultimate goal has ALWAYS been depopulation and the easiest way to control the masses is to control the distribution of food .

Eventually, we will see regs declaring national standards for caloric intake in order to ‘fight’ obesity.

(of course, many government elitists will be EXEMPT from the standards along with the usual cast of government approved minorities)

I’d imagine that those who will be targeted first with strict caloric intake,regardless of weight, will be those of us that reside in Red States and are members of what Congresswoman Jackson calls the Christian Militants.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 6:06:31 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: xtinct; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”The federal government has a growing interest in the eating habits of Americans for the same reason it has an interest in tobacco consumption, said Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services. The reason is money, because three-quarters of medical-spending is driven by chronic diseases, such as obesity and tobacco-related diseases, she said.

Is this even a logical argument? If you wanted to save money wouldnt you just cut tht money spent ? ie Obama-care and medicare and allow different levels of insurance coverage per risk?

If you are successful forcing people to be healthy and they live longer then dont they just get similar medical problems at a later age which will cost more in the long run through entitlements.

Watch closely when these people in DC talk about saving money. Most people just believe arguments like this without question.

20 posted on 06/22/2011 6:07:14 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Teacher317

When you’re getting an allowance from Daddy, you abide by his rules.

I’d rather not have a government that assumes the roles of Mommy and Daddy. It should be optional.


21 posted on 06/22/2011 6:07:38 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: xtinct

Why not put special ‘food dispensers’ into every household. When you want food, you get on a scale that decides how much will be dispensed to you. It will also keep track of what you’ve eaten that day and adjust the type and portion of food accordingly. It could also be configured to estimate the amount of carbon dioxide you will produce metabolizing the amount of food you’ve been given, and send the information to the government so that they can determine how much extra carbon tax you should be assessed.


22 posted on 06/22/2011 6:08:25 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: xtinct
Kids weren't obese until the government started to feed them everyday. THEY'RE OVER-EATING!! And it's cr** food.

Give them cereal and WHOLE milk for breakfast and soup and sandwich for lunch...PERIOD.

No pizza, no chicken fingers....

The gov knock all the fast food places and then serves the same thing in school. Dumb...just dumb...

23 posted on 06/22/2011 6:11:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: xtinct

“Feds look to regulate food similar to tobacco, with hopes of saving money on health care”

This was totally forseeable and would only be shocking if it did not happen.

Idiots wanted gooberment involved in financing health care. Gooberment begins funding health care with our hard earned tax dollars, finds that costs explode, looks for ways to contain costs, finds that smokers cost more money, and then begins to regulate what would otherwise be an individual choice.

Next will be regulating behavior that leads to obesity.

Gooberment never grows smaller or becomes less intrusive without a revolution of some sort.

We need a private health care system, with no gooberment involvement, but I don’t see the sheeple going along with that.


24 posted on 06/22/2011 6:12:35 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: xtinct

If they didn’t insist on trying to pay for it..they could leave it alone. These creatures are insane.

Way past the time for the states to leave the feds....the 50 should secede..from DC!!!


25 posted on 06/22/2011 6:13:46 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Why not put special ‘food dispensers’ into every household...

I'd recommend not giving them any ideas, but this has probably already been considered in some form.

26 posted on 06/22/2011 6:16:26 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: xtinct
I'm listerning to Dr. Oz....He wants to take away all our sugar....

Says it was thought salt was the baddie.

Changing the channel...These people are in reality....selling something.....like poison substitutes

27 posted on 06/22/2011 6:19:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mike Darancette
When they figure out that old age is the root cause of medical spending we are all goners

You mean like killing people before they have a chance to become a "burden on society?" Too late, the dems have been preaching that for years with ABORTION ON DEMAND!
28 posted on 06/22/2011 6:22:05 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: sickoflibs; xtinct; Grampa Dave; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; thouworm; ...
Kathleen Sebelius, HHS Secretary. "The federal government has a growing interest in the eating habits of Americans for the same reason it has an interest in tobacco consumption............."

More memorable quotes in the aftermath of O/Care.

From Vladimir Lenin: "Medicine is the keystone of the arch of the socialist state." W/ govt in control of medical care, all the defining, controlling features of socialist govt can be introduced.....one by one.

O/CARE will transfer massive authority to the Obama Admin over the lives of Americans, and their businesses. E-v-e-r-y-thing Americans do is related to health.

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FROM O/CARE LAW: Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual’s bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.

NOTE: Socialized health care is impossible without seizing private medical records----BUT the 4th Amendment prohibits seizure without warrants. The Obama govt will do it anyway.

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From NEIL MCLAUGHLIN in Modern Healthcare "When Congress passed healthcare reform, reporters joked that the package amounted to a Full Employment Act for health journalists. There were so many provisions and questions about implementing it that it would require weeks and months to sort through it all."

29 posted on 06/22/2011 6:24:51 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: xtinct

30 posted on 06/22/2011 6:27:17 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Give them cereal and WHOLE milk for breakfast and soup and sandwich for lunch...PERIOD.

Most of us growing up got the EXACT same breakfast and lunch everyday! The only difference was the type of cereal and the flavor of jelly! We were so poor, beans and cornbread was a common staple for dinner on many a night, but our low levels of melanin did not allow us to get government assistance in the early-to-mid-70's!

SO cereal and PB&J was an everyday existence!

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR SUGGESTION!
31 posted on 06/22/2011 6:32:04 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: xtinct
I remember back when all the good little Republicans agreed with all the caring and health loving Democrats that smoking was a bad, bad thing and there should be a law that stops anyone smoking in public places like restaurants. It’s a public health issue they said. We don’t believe in total government control but this is different.

Many of us warned them back then. All I can say now is quitcherbitchen or do something about it. Sit on your arses and think it’s someone else their after again this time but they will get you sooner or later. Probably sooner. Total control of you lives by government is only a few short months away.

32 posted on 06/22/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: pieceofthepuzzle; sickoflibs
special ‘food dispensers’ into every household...

that wont work until we are 'chipped'...

all gubmint, all control, all the time...

33 posted on 06/22/2011 6:42:18 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: xtinct

Soon we will all be REQUIRED to eat only government approved meals

Then we will all eat Soylent Green.


34 posted on 06/22/2011 6:45:30 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: xtinct

Some one then needs to tell moochelle how fat she is.


35 posted on 06/22/2011 6:48:44 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS or RINOS in 2012!)
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To: xtinct

This is why the non-smokers should have opposed smoking bans.

Instead, they welcomed it as progress, because it was something they didn’t like. Now the precedent has been set to regulate behavior in the interest of health.

So, those same people who applauded government regulation of behavior will now have to suffer it themselves.

I’d be glad that the chickens came home to roost if it didn’t affect me also.


36 posted on 06/22/2011 6:50:58 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: Texas Fossil
think of what that type of tax and regulation will do to our food supply. THAT is what we are facing.

Too true! Look at gasoline and electricity prices as a hint of what's to come. We have turned our government and all its power over to our future Masters.

37 posted on 06/22/2011 6:59:44 AM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: xtinct

“Medical spending” and “the environment” allow them to control virtually every single area of your life.


38 posted on 06/22/2011 7:12:30 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: subterfuge; All
You might have a point.

They'll claim taxes on "unhealthy" foods will subsidize what they decide are "healthy" foods all while driving up the cost of food people want to eat. The poor will be even worse off and most of that revenue will be shifted into the general fund to be used on wasteful "progressive" schemes.

The idea of what's become called a "Twinkie tax" goes back to at least the early 1940s.

When MObama unveiled her "My Plate" sham, the site included a 7 day sample menu of healthy eating. I calculated what it would cost me to feed one person those meals on two of those days (Days 4 & 6). In one case, $44.42, in the other $49.95.

How many individuals are spending $18K on food per year?

In bizarre contrast, the FDA "food plans" (where they claim what food costs) top out at $4,200 per year for an adult male.

There is a mammoth chasm of a disconnect between their abstract cost claims and what they actually recommend as individual meals.

They are fundamentally unserious about providing cost effective, detailed guidance to those who need it the most.

Poor people are fat because fattier foods are less expensive. The solution is not subsidies! The solution is an economy that isn't anti-job.

Are they going to subsidize 95% lean ground beef, used in the Day 4 sample menu? That costs $7.30/lbs where I am. How do you produce enough ground beef that lean to meet all needs without driving up costs for cattle ranchers who need to worry about pollution regulations from dust clouds if there's a stampede?

These people are dumb as a box of rocks. They work against their own stated goals without know it thus ensuring perpetual failure.

39 posted on 06/22/2011 8:25:06 AM PDT by newzjunkey (a Pigovian tax is a tax intended to shape market outcomes—appropriately named.)
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To: xtinct

LOL! Once again, Rush was right. He was warning about this over 10 years ago.


40 posted on 06/22/2011 8:31:19 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: xtinct
Most junk food is consumed in front of the TV.

Maybe they should ban TV :)

41 posted on 06/22/2011 8:33:28 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: xtinct

First they came for our lightbulbs, now they want our twinkies....when will it end?


42 posted on 06/22/2011 8:41:49 AM PDT by tioga (2012 - the year Obama gets slapped down....coming soon.)
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To: xtinct

Overeating is a disgusting, filthy habit that should be taxed, regulated, or banned outright.

;-)


43 posted on 06/22/2011 8:55:12 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: newzjunkey

Good post. But I happen to believe the so-calle “poor” make bad choices about food and their lifestyles and that is what causes their obesity. I see them in the grocery store all the time and with their EBT cards they are spending WAY more than I do on food/necessities. If they have enough government credits to buy a 8 boxes of twinkies and 40 lbs. of frying chicken, they have enough to buy some vegetables and fruit. I just don’t see them doing it.


44 posted on 06/22/2011 12:55:27 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: sickoflibs

Your asking to much from this crowd regarding attempts at being “logical”. Not that they really would want to go down that route.


45 posted on 06/22/2011 1:33:29 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

A lot of us non-smokers in AZ opposed the bans. We knew exactly what was coming next. No one listened.


46 posted on 06/22/2011 5:04:50 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs.


47 posted on 06/22/2011 5:06:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: xtinct; Eric Blair 2084; tutstar; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...

Nanny State PING!


48 posted on 06/23/2011 6:14:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (July 23, 2017 - This is Ellis Wyatt. I am on strike.)
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To: xtinct; SheLion

We warned you and a lot of Freepers did not listen.


49 posted on 06/23/2011 6:21:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: xtinct

Burn them all to the ground! These people are all demons.


50 posted on 06/23/2011 6:27:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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