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ABC News probes gay 'cure' claims about Bachmann clinic
The Politico ^ | July 11, 2011 | Maggie Haberman

Posted on 07/11/2011 7:49:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The questions about Michele Bachmann's husband's crisis clinic - and reports its services including helping to "cure" homosexuals - went mainstream tonight, with an ABC News story featuring undercover video shot of one of the center's counselors saying it's "possible" to be "totally free" of such feelings.

The "World News" report included an interview with a former patient at the clinic, who told the ABC reporter that he'd been sent there when he was 17 years old to try to "change" him.

"[One counselor's] path for my therapy would be to read the Bible, pray to God that I would no longer be gay," Ramirez, who went to Bachmann & Associates in 2004, "And God would forgive me if I were straight."

The reports - denied repeatedly by the Bachmanns - have been circulating for years. But the ABC News story included undercover video of a counselor shot by a member of the advocacy group "Truth Wins Out."

The counselor, in the video, is seen telling the patient - who, according to the report, said he was a gay man who wanted to be "cured" of homosexuality - that "God has designed our eyes (for you) to you be attracted to (a) woman's body."

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; exgays; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; michelebachmann; psychology; redemption; truthwinsout
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To: Prokopton
The Newsweek article was purely about magazine sales and access.

Give them a month and they will be back to their typically nasty self.

21 posted on 07/11/2011 8:13:02 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were caught being Christians. There’s probably enough evidence to convict.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 8:14:56 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: 9YearLurker
You think? Here's a few Bachmann will get, and Palin will no doubt get:

How old is the Earth?

Is homosexuality a sin?

Is Evolution a lie made up by scientists to deny God?

Are all people that haven't been Saved going to eternal damnation in Hell?

Then we'll talk palatable to the middle.
23 posted on 07/11/2011 8:15:23 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Prokopton

Part of the fact is that the media like Newsweek needs money and Sarah sells, i bet their advertisement on the page of the Sarah article shot up dramatically

But the most important thing is that Sarah plays hardball with the media - those who are fair gets exclusives with her like Scott Conroy of RealClearPolitics; those who are not fair gets shutout, some of the liberal media now understands that she is the biggest bulb in politics today and she isn’t going away and that she sells and they can either be on the sidelines like the NYT or be in on the action just by posting fair articles or reports.


24 posted on 07/11/2011 8:17:35 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lesssee...how much time did ABC give to Rev “God Damn America” Wright whom Obama sat in front of weekly for 20 years?!


25 posted on 07/11/2011 8:19:12 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Exactly. Everyone knows that prayer works, when done sincerely and you believe that God can heal you. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.


26 posted on 07/11/2011 8:20:24 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Bigtigermike
Well said sir.
27 posted on 07/11/2011 8:21:45 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: Bigtigermike
Well said sir.
28 posted on 07/11/2011 8:21:59 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: mo

To be fair Brian Ross of ABC was the one that broke the Rev Wright story open as far as the network television and newspapers goes....Hannity and a few conservatives were on it much earlier. Having said that we know that many journalists were reluctant to push the Rev Wright issue further


29 posted on 07/11/2011 8:24:08 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: magritte
Q. How old is the Earth?

A. 6,000 to 12,000 years old

Q. Is homosexuality a sin?

A. No. The sexual acts associated with, actually defining homosexuality, is the sin. A “celibate homosexual”, (oxymoron), would not be sinning.

Q. Is Evolution a lie made up by scientists to deny God?

A. Yes, The theory of evolution is an unproved theory. What scientist do when trying to find the answers to questions of origin, is to absolutely exclude God as an answer. It would be like trying to solve the equation 2 + 2 = ?, and not considering or allowing “4” to be the answer.

Q. Are all people that haven't been Saved going to eternal damnation in Hell?

A. In a word, Yes.

Is that it?, Those were too easy.

30 posted on 07/11/2011 8:35:21 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Bigtigermike

“.. all of that was debunked as lies made up by the liberal left and media..”

And Gov. Palin never said she could see Russia from her house, that was Tina Fey in an SNL skit! (also known as as “the truth” to the doofusses on the Left)


31 posted on 07/11/2011 8:40:33 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, the Bible is obsolete, doncha know? The Bible lied where it said that God does not change.


32 posted on 07/11/2011 8:47:40 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: faucetman

You get an A+!


33 posted on 07/11/2011 8:50:32 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: magritte

Palin had the highest gubernatorial approval ratings in Gallup’s history up in the least religious and most libertarian state in the country. Her focus in government has always been on pragmatic economic and anti-corruption issues.

Palin is unapologetically prolife, but she is not hateful to those who disagree with her and she is very respectful of gays, though not in favor of gay marriage. She’s a far cry from Bachmann’s social extremism in her political, personal and business life.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 9:02:42 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is 100% predictable. The MSM helps to build up MB to “tweak” SP (or so they think). Once MB gets a lot more visibility and rising poll numbers to the top...BOOM, they knock her down. I predict that MB will drop out of the race because of what the MSM will do to her and family now that she has arrived at/near the top of the GOP polls. I predict that Perry will also NOT run out of fear for what they will dig up on him. That will leave the door wide open for SP, who will ultimately answer the call and RUN. Yes, she’ll run Zer0bama right into the ground.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 9:07:26 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: magritte

Oh, and whatever gave you the idea Palin doesn’t believe in evolution?


36 posted on 07/11/2011 9:08:24 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: faucetman
Is that it?, Those were too easy.

Congratulations. You score 25% of the vote. Rating F-

37 posted on 07/11/2011 9:16:00 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Did they pray for this guy? Photobucket
38 posted on 07/11/2011 9:26:02 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: the invisib1e hand
...."don’t worry, you can trust ABC when it probes things."....

Did it involve an exploding gas tank or tainted food?

39 posted on 07/11/2011 9:27:30 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

There is the rub, what part is Bachman denying?

The: No feelings at all
The: Free from sin
The: God Will forgive you
or The: “Just read the Bible”

And which one is the lie?

Wow, we can’t find out why Mrs Obama had her law license revoked but we need undercover at a counseling office.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 9:28:32 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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