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1 posted on 07/17/2011 2:49:25 PM PDT by blam
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"Don't you call my bluff!"


2 posted on 07/17/2011 2:51:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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So when seniors default on credit payments, get thrown out of their house/apartment/trailer guess who will be blamed.


3 posted on 07/17/2011 2:56:51 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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These political maggots can pay out hundreds of BILLIONS per year in direct and indirect costs to educate, feed, medicate and otherwise support ILLEGAL ALIENS but they feel they must cut Social Security to real citizens....we know what the game here is. Pure filthy politics — the politics of fright and intimidation.

What goes around, will come around.


4 posted on 07/17/2011 2:57:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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If the U. S. defaults on debt obligations (bonds), then there is no longer any moral obligation for taxpayers to pay taxes.


5 posted on 07/17/2011 3:01:15 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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Awww, They shouldn’t worry.

Politicians of all stripes and levels have no doubt been closely watching the example of Prichard, Alabama. They officially ran out of money two years ago and stopped paying pensions. We have John Stossel’s latest to show that Prichard somehow still manages to pay everybody else.

The city’s retirees just suck it up, struggle on somehow, or suffer and die in silence with some desultory protesting.

So far the Mayor and town council have not been impeached, voted out of office or even assassinated.

Go figure, I’m sure, after due consideration, our solons are not so afraid of having a few elder mobs beating on their limos with placards for a while.


6 posted on 07/17/2011 3:01:59 PM PDT by sinanju
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The SS trust fund has been looted and replaced with special treasury bonds (special IOUs in that honoring them does not take priority over repaying standard T-bills).
But the SSTF is still full of such IOUs and if that isn't a debt,than my mortgage isn't either,
But if it comes to paying seniors’ retirement or continuing to finance Plan Parenthood abortions there is no telling what the Marxist will do.
7 posted on 07/17/2011 3:05:02 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Sans Sarah-Bachmann's The One.")
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But interestingly, we’re not just hearing that from Congressional Republicans: Obama has raised that spectre as well.

Stopped right there. The author is clearly clueless.

10 posted on 07/17/2011 3:07:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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The deepest cuts should be in the extremely bloated welfare system.

But that would make too much sense.

11 posted on 07/17/2011 3:08:35 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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Basically...Federal Gov’mt as currently operated, is a liability to the States and We the People.


12 posted on 07/17/2011 3:10:11 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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14 posted on 07/17/2011 3:11:56 PM PDT by Errant
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Why aren't the Republicans shouting from the rooftops the mantra of the DIMocrats for the last 15 years? Why aren't they shouting the DIMocrats promised for the last 15 years?

The funds to pay Social Security have been put in a lock box and are all available for many years to come!!!

15 posted on 07/17/2011 3:12:11 PM PDT by ProudFossil
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BIG REASONS

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.”
It gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request

• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request

• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request

• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
• Lebanon: $74 million

• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

•Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations
peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.
And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
PDF Version:
http://www.atr.org/files/files/090310pr-jan2011taxes.pdf
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list.pdf

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17 posted on 07/17/2011 3:16:47 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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So...

We take away the Social Security from those who,
for the most part, have contributed to it
all their working lives

But we keep open the utterly parasitic:

Dept. of Education
Internal Revenue Service (Fair Tax)
Separate Health plans for Federal Workers, and
Aggressive retirement plans for federal workers
Unionized Federal Workers
Most of National Institute of Health
Grants to other Countries
Pet projects of Congress Critters
ATF

Dare I say, If necessary, much of Military

But No, they have to pull the rug out from the elderly
From a plan they have, for the most part,
have individually paid into in the past

Despicable


18 posted on 07/17/2011 3:17:31 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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SS is the last thing that should be shut off. It actually has its' own account.

How dare he threaten us!! Don't pay Congress for a while makes much more sense!! And those Congressmens' expense accounts?? Forget paying them for a while.

If you don't create jobs and get rid of stupid programs like Head Start etc...there will NEVER be enough money.

19 posted on 07/17/2011 3:19:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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But interestingly, we’re not just hearing that from Congressional Republicans: Obama has raised that spectre as well

What Congressional Republican has been talking about this? Obama is the one that brought it up.

21 posted on 07/17/2011 3:21:20 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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This is because the government long ago “restructured” Social Security, taking the accumulated and current savings and spending it on the usual guns-and-butter, leaving the Social Security Trust

Guns & Butter?
LBJ raided the SS trust fund to pay for his "war on poverty" and if they can't even cover that, who will believe in ObamaCare?

22 posted on 07/17/2011 3:24:25 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They're socialists don't call them liberals)
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This whole thing is BS as Mark Levin has been saying. Without touching the debt ceiling at all the country will take in 200B in August of which something like 30B is interest on debt. They could pay debt interest, SS, medicare, medicaid even, and all military costs and then worry about what else to pay for but pain is the name of the game here and putting SS in jeopardy is pure politics. Bork Obunga has a basic and severe problem with priorities.


23 posted on 07/17/2011 3:24:55 PM PDT by varmintman
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Why dont We the People take charge of this?

We need to TELL the Government where and where not - to make cuts!

It is OUR money!

I say, give grandma her check and cut off foreign aid. Give grandpa his check and quit supporting illegals!

Where does it say that WE THE PEOPLE don’t have a say in these matters?


27 posted on 07/17/2011 3:36:23 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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Every elected official from the President on down should take a pass on their salaries until SS, the military, and the VA checks are written. If that is not enough money, throw in the judicial branch and all the czars, and all the bureaucrats.


38 posted on 07/17/2011 4:12:49 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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The Real Reason Hitting The Debt Limit May Mean Social Security Checks Stop

The real reason is that the executive branch controls Treasury, Obama controls the executive branch, and someone controls Obama. That someone wants a. to use the money that would normally go to Social Security for funding something else, and b. to use this diversion of funds to blame the Republican for not letting Barry have his way and spending even more money that would do the very same thing even more quickly.

Today I was talking to someone (who was probably an Obama voter) who said that we weren't meant to drink cold drinks because in our stomach the cold drink just gels. I told her the stomach had so much hydrochloric acid in it that it wasn't possible for a gel to form. She asked me how to deal with acid in the stomach. I told her I take ranitidine. She asked what that was. I said it was something that reduced acid production. She said she takes vinegar. I said that when she took vinegar she was adding acid (albeit a very small amount of very weak acid) to her stomach. Someone else there told her that she was talking to a scientist. She said that scientists just believe whatever they read in books but she believes what people experience and tell her. With folks like this in the world, there is NO hoping they'll see through the Obama scam.
51 posted on 07/17/2011 4:52:39 PM PDT by aruanan
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