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Breivik defends Pam "Atlas Shrugs" Geller in Manifesto
Patriotboy ^ | 7/24/11 | Gen. JC Christian, Patriot

Posted on 07/24/2011 9:34:49 PM PDT by Nachum

Jesusopatriot crusader Anders Breivik (aka Andrew Berwick) comes to the defense of Our Lady of the All Caps Screech, Pam Geller and friends in his Manifesto (p. 625):

I have watched, for the better part of a year, a number of decent human beings including, but not limited to, Pamela Geller, Paul Belien, Diana West, the Baron and Dymphna from the Gates of Vienna blog and many others, being at the receiving end of a vicious smear campaign from Charles Johnson and Little Green Footballs which is unlike anything I have seen in my life.

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To: sageb1

I think an erosion in his thoughts can be glimpsed here and there even in the earlier writing of the manifesto. The first glitch I noticed was an enthusiasm for Neitzsche. The second was the growing embrace of ultra Nationalism and his comparing himself to Sitting Bull. Not overly alarming in and of themselves. But it is more logical to progress from the philosophy of Neitssche and the massacre at Little Big Horn to killing 90 innocent people than it is get there from a defense of Western culture.


41 posted on 07/24/2011 11:49:39 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance

“The point being he was right about many things but for whatever reason he failed to grasp that the crimes he committed were the complete antithesis of the philosophy he claimed to believe.

One of the ideals Western culture rests on is the ideal of being a system of laws not of men. His crimes went against that 100%.”

Agree. 100%.


42 posted on 07/24/2011 11:50:24 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: lastchance

Haven’t gotten there yet, but that’s what I’m looking for - the turning point. Thank you.


43 posted on 07/24/2011 11:52:27 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

At first blush, it would seem he believed the leftists were responsible for leaving Norway “defensless,” againt the muslims. Therefore, he struck at them rather than the muslims, themselves.


44 posted on 07/24/2011 11:59:21 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: papertyger

I think you are exactly right, He struck at those he considered responsible. The horrible thing is that he seemed to want to try to destroy the ideology by killing their children.


45 posted on 07/25/2011 12:05:50 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade, There are only two sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

Actually, I think he just wanted to “punish” them more than anything else.

I don’t see any reason to believe he thought his plan was any grander than that....


46 posted on 07/25/2011 12:19:57 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Nachum

I guess we will have to suffer through 1,500 pages of manifesto being parsed for the ‘good parts’ by all our enemies for the next few months.


47 posted on 07/25/2011 1:56:07 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: lastchance

OK, but do Norwegians call anyone in their home country coloured?

Exactly how popular are American websites across the big pond? Would he have picked up expression like MSM? Political correctness?

How many Norwegian exchange students attend Stanford, or any
US University? Rather than select examples of political correctness at US Universities, I would think a European might say, “Watch out America, what you’ve gotten is just the beginning. We’re further along the political correctness path than you” and picked examples in his native country.

Any Europeans out there? Does this look like something written by a native son to you?


48 posted on 07/25/2011 2:18:32 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: RegulatorCountry

Given that Breivik was well educated in a country which has a high standard of English education, and may have spent substantial time in the US, I’m not surprised by his standard of English.

...at least, not after I take into account the large sections Breivik plagiarized from native English speakers. Document.no has a post up comparing the 2083 Manifesto to the Unibomber’s Manifesto: http://www.document.no/2011/07/behring-breivik-kopierte-una-bomberen/ It looks like he did a search/replace of Leftist/Cultural Marxist and Left/multicultural.

Nachum said that some was copied from Fjordman, and I think we should expect to find that other sections were copied from Geller, Malkin, Limbaugh, Buchanan and others.


49 posted on 07/25/2011 2:45:11 AM PDT by vaswa5uy
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To: Nachum; All

Can this guy even speak English let alone read and write it.
I think there’s some clever hacking going on
check out
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2753128/posts


50 posted on 07/25/2011 2:59:36 AM PDT by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: vaswa5uy

Your “standard of English” is a clear indication that you’re not a native speaker. To the very knowledgeable, peculiar syntax can indicate one’s actual native language. The impulse to transliterate is a strong one.

Where is there any indication that this man may have spent substantial time in the United States? Please provide a source for this contention.


51 posted on 07/25/2011 3:43:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: lastchance

I enjoyed reading your analysis.

Today, I believe he is a madman, and we will never understand his logic and motivations. Even if we got a sociopath to question him and uncover the answers, we would not understand those answers.

If he slowly descended into madness, his early writing would not be connected to his current work.

He seems to have lost respect for all Human life. He identified a group as the root cause to current problems???? He then sets out to erase that group????

The medium to long term question is > how do innocents protect themselves? The Police needed 90 minutes to respond??


52 posted on 07/25/2011 4:36:01 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Steven Tyler
Somebody else just posted a section from one of this guy's ravings. This is a particularly noteworthy sentence:

The entity [one of Breivik's "knight" organizations] should demand that the alleged Justiciar Knight in question surgically remove his penis and testicles and/or execute a fixed number of civilian children.

This was to prove loyalty to the cause.

He was a psychopath. We joke about people who think they are Napoleon, but they're only funny when they're safely locked in a secure ward somewhere. Breivik is like a somebody who thinks himself a combination of Napoleon and Hannibal Lecter.

53 posted on 07/25/2011 4:59:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: Steven Tyler

“The medium to long term question is > how do innocents protect themselves? The Police needed 90 minutes to respond??”

In much of Europe that question is never even asked anymore. The assumption is that the power of protection is one of State sovereignity and not one left in the hands of the individual.

I am Christian so that thought leads to the ever present question of how do Christians confront evil? Not just the evil we can prepare to meet and defend against whether by personal means or societal or even military means. But evil such as what arose in this horror?

Sometimes we can’t. But even so we know that this evil and all evil was confronted and is confronted by the Cross. I know and believe fully that Christ is the Victor. That all the wounds inflicted. All the battles that are seemingly lost. All the evil given reign by dark souled men. All of that well be swept away before the coming storm of Christ’s triumphant return.

I know too that evil can never wipe out what and who is good in this world. That for every very loud, very public act of monstrosity there are small acts of love, courage, faith, hope, goodness, mercy, caring, trust, compassion and beauty. These acts public and private would not be possible without the Grace of Christ, the Breath of the Holy Spirit and the Great Love and Mercy of God present amongst us.

Evil is a reality that reflects a falsehood. Christians believe in a reality that reflects and declares the Truth. The Cross of Christ is not a defeat. It is a victory.


54 posted on 07/25/2011 10:17:33 AM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: lastchance
Maybe he is like a latter day Michael Douglas in the movie "Falling Down," where something just snapped when you combine what is going on in the world and maybe something in his personal life.

I was listening to Glenn Beck this morning and he made the point that there will be some nasty war or confrontation in the future "if we don't get off the current highway we are on and we keep missing to take the exits." I'd like to take one of the exits to defuse this thing but between radical Islam and the left, which the latter is the bigger problem, I don't see it happening I'm afraid so we might have to fight in the future for the survival to Western Civilization. The bad thing in war is that almost all rules go out the window and survival with the intent to win becomes the rule so we might have to be forced to choose sides. If it came down to that, maybe I'm become more "mercenary" as I get older, but when it comes down to the survival of my family, friends, country, way of life and myself, I'll do what I think is best to achieve that.

I know Europe is a bit different from us politically but as being a part of Western Civilization, we are joined to them since we originated from them.

What this guy did was wrong and even though what he wrote about is almost correct (from what I have read so far) and what the possible outcomes will be if we do not change course, because of his actions, it makes these concerns look bad in the yes of some. Even so, it does not take away from the problems we face now and in the future.
55 posted on 07/25/2011 10:34:04 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: sageb1

I’m on page 704. Tough slog as his writing style gets a bit redundant.

Content is pretty spot on so far. I haven’t checked any of his source links though. Interesting that he provided them in the first place.


56 posted on 07/25/2011 10:41:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Children? Do you have more, accurate, info on the ages of those attending? Everyone is spouting the "children" line here, but all of the quotes from those that were there are identified as being well into their 20's.

This wasn't 8 and 9 year olds. These were young adults being groomed to take positions in the Labour Party's Communist workings.

Viewed that way, this was more a massacre of Nazi Youth before taking their places in the SS.

Not my opinion. I'm gleaning this from his manifesto and from news reports.

57 posted on 07/25/2011 10:50:56 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: vaswa5uy

I have this suspicion that he also saw himself aligned with the anonymous group who promised that this was start of the first phase of their plan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_9T1SPJXRI


58 posted on 07/25/2011 11:25:37 AM PDT by CJ Wolf (I like it that FR still spell checks "obama")
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