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The next 72hs: What last minute preps to take?
The Modern Survivalist ^ | 7/31/11 | FerFAL

Posted on 07/31/2011 9:23:53 PM PDT by Kartographer

What you would be looking at would be civil unrest in most mayor US cities and thousands of minor ones as well. Once the images of people looting and getting away with it hit the TV you’re looking at thousands of bums thinking of doing the same thing and rushing out the door to the nearest store. That gets bad pretty fast. You’re talking about looting, fires, closed stores, destruction of vehicles and private property, and given US context some gang related activity taking advantage of the lawless situation as well to settle scores. While invasion of residential properties wont be as common as the looting of commercial property, it can happen in several cases.

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I haven't heard and fat lady sing and I don't think this thing is over.
1 posted on 07/31/2011 9:23:57 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!


2 posted on 07/31/2011 9:25:54 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Costco has 50lbs rice for $17 and 50lbs bread flour for $16.
That’s 2000 calories a day for 82 days for $33.
Easy backup or starting point.
No-brainer for first step or easy extension.


3 posted on 07/31/2011 9:30:40 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kartographer

I think the fat lady is still backstage.


4 posted on 07/31/2011 9:30:40 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: Kartographer

What happened in Dec of 2001?


5 posted on 07/31/2011 9:36:37 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Kartographer

For those of you who would want an idea of what an economic collapse looks like I suggest you watch an excellent documentary available on YouTube Part One is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs

As a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population I expect that our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many a small business wiped out by looting, think Katrina/L.A. all rolled into one.

I also see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t a ‘0bamamite yute’ or one of ‘Holder’s People’ it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.

I hate to add this, but I don’t like what I am seeing trending with LEO’s lately in the news. I am not sure if it’s stress or what, but there seems to be a growing disfuction in the area of ‘To protect and Serve’ among LEO’s. In a SHFT situation calling on LEO’s for help I think will end in not only not getting help you need, but actually end up with you very sorry you called.

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”


6 posted on 07/31/2011 9:39:18 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Terry Mross

Argentina’s economic collapse. An excellent documentary is available on YouTube Part One is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs


7 posted on 07/31/2011 9:40:50 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Almost picked up one of those Chinese SKS’s this weekend.

But I got tons of .223 and would rather get something else that can shoot it...

Maybe an AR15 or another Mini...


8 posted on 07/31/2011 9:46:13 PM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: Kartographer
"The next 72hs: What last minute preps to take?"

I'd be one of those rural people, who continues life as usual (rural people being "weird," according to some suburban folks).


9 posted on 07/31/2011 9:48:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: Kartographer

Ammo, and lots of it.


10 posted on 07/31/2011 9:54:00 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: familyop

Yup, I am rural AND mega Prepped as well. I will live life as usual, until tshtf here, then I am ready.


11 posted on 07/31/2011 9:55:23 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Kartographer

Keep it simple - and cheap. Don’t try to stock up planning on big, fancy dinner parties. Depends on what your current living situation is as to what you need to stock. For instance, we have a well with prep for manual use, so we didn’t need to store up a lot of drinking water. Think it out and do what is right for you; and don’t stress. Make a start a step or two at a time, and keep on a day at a time.


12 posted on 07/31/2011 10:01:41 PM PDT by Twinkie (It's the STUPID SPENDING, Stupid!)
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To: djf

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport (A brand new AR-15 for $640?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2753925/posts


13 posted on 07/31/2011 10:12:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: Kartographer
The next 72hs: What last minute preps to take?

Step One: Load the Garands

14 posted on 07/31/2011 10:16:48 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (H-O-L-D F-A-S-T)
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To: Twinkie
I have huge amounts of ammo (I usually buy range ammo in lots of 500 to 1000 rounds at gun shows)and lots of components to load more.

I also have enough firearms to arm my neighborhood and extended family.

I live in the unincorporated part of a county, have a steam through my back yard for water and my neighbor across the steam has livestock in his pasture.

Things could collapse in inner cities until the national guard/army is called out, but I doubt that riots would last more than a couple weeks, before things were brought under control.

15 posted on 07/31/2011 10:18:37 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Twinkie

I also have a well, who did you get to made it also prep for manual...I have been thinking the same thing for my well. For me, when power goes out no water, when the grid went down for 3 weeks a few years back, water was the only thing I needed...used match to start gas stove and kerosene heater for the home. Did you do it yourself...my well is only about 35 foot deep. The pump has been replaced and the pipe and pump were pretty easy to bring up but I had a well man do it....


16 posted on 07/31/2011 10:20:50 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: TonyInOhio
The next 72hs: What last minute preps to take?

Step One: Load the Garands

Haw Haw. See my sig.

17 posted on 07/31/2011 10:21:20 PM PDT by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. and every day...because some day soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lead story on tonite’s evening news in my area, Pittsburgh PA, at least a hundred urban teenagers invaded a McDonalds in East Liberty, rioted and trashed it, then went to Trader Jo’s across the street and then to a newly-opened Target where they trashed the toy aisles in an hour long rampage before police got things under control. One youth was arrested. Witnesses said they were also harassing patrons. There was also a similar youth riot within the past week at a movie complex.


18 posted on 07/31/2011 10:22:57 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz

Same thing just happened in Philly, didn’t it?


19 posted on 07/31/2011 10:24:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks. Gun show again in 2 weeks. I went yesterday but didn’t make it today.

Gun show has tables from companies that have FFL (in which case, if you buy from them, you got the paperwork.)

Also tables for private sales.

But here in Washington, private sales are completely legal, as long as neither party has reason to believe the other party is prohibited from owning guns. So it’s cash on the nail and walk away!

I did buy a gun back about 1981 that I 4473’d for, but never had to since then.

You have to be a member of Washington Arms Collectors to buy at the show in either case.


20 posted on 07/31/2011 10:27:57 PM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: Robert357

Keep posting all about what you have and where you have it so ................the BATFE can come out and confiscate it when TSHTF. Wake up fer crissakes! SHADDUP about what you’ve got!


21 posted on 07/31/2011 10:29:00 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Ciexyz

Teenagers? Well Pittsburgh school system sucks.... I just found out last night my son and his wife will be homeschooling their kids (fianlly) for the remainder of their school years. Kids are very excited. Has been talked about for couple years but the decision was made. I am very happy about this!


22 posted on 07/31/2011 10:32:38 PM PDT by caww
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To: Ciexyz

If this continues across the nation watch the states and cities establish curviews.....the kids are bitting their noses off .....


23 posted on 07/31/2011 10:34:52 PM PDT by caww
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To: eXe
"Yup, I am rural AND mega Prepped as well. I will live life as usual, until tshtf here, then I am ready."

Well said. There are also many ways to make a home unapproachable to some but safe and inviting to real friendlies. In my case, this place is a little far out for anyone who would fill up with, say, fuel that costs $10 per gallon or more during a default/dollar collapse.

The climate is also a no-go for anyone who would try hanging around while trying to case it (way cold for nine months of the year and too hot during summer days--not much atmosphere overhead). And the elevation--oxygen debt really fast for anyone lacking enough red blood platelets (altitude sickness common in visitors who go up too fast).

At the same time, there have been drawbacks and difficulties in building here (too far from electrical power hookups along with the formerly mentioned difficulties and more). I envy those prepared to take the route of launching yachts on the oceans.


24 posted on 07/31/2011 10:35:41 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: caww
"kids are bitting their noses off"

The silver lining.


25 posted on 07/31/2011 10:44:03 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This youth riot in Pittsburgh was the offshot of a church street carnival where the teenagers left the daytime carnival and started to swarm local businesses with the intent of causing trouble. Like a rave. Anybody caught in the path of this raving hoard is in danger of their personal safety.


26 posted on 07/31/2011 10:47:03 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: goat granny
"For me, when power goes out no water,..."

You would need a backup power system comprised of a transfer switch (to separate the grid power circuit from your backup circuit), an inlet (like an outlet, but with prongs instead of socket holes), an outdoor safety switch, generator and cable to connect the generator to the inlet. ...to the best of my memory offhand, as I use that kind of system with no power grid hookup near here (and don't need the transfer switch, myself, but you would). ...needs proper wiring, including ground wire between all boxes not already connected to each other by metal conduit, and the well casing.

BTW, you could build a manual pump system for a well that shallow instead of what I explained. Mine's a deep well, so a manual pump system would be as expensive as what I installed here.

Hope that helps. I remember some good agricultural advice from you a while back and am still thankful.


27 posted on 07/31/2011 10:50:32 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: familyop
"difficulties in building here"

You can say that again. I'm finishing our retreat. To get there you have to go to the middle of nowhere, then 20 miles down the dirt road to the other dirt road and take that another 5 miles.


28 posted on 07/31/2011 10:50:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: B4Ranch
"Keep posting all about what you have and where you have it so ................the BATFE can come out and confiscate it when TSHTF. Wake up fer crissakes! SHADDUP about what you’ve got!"

Very wise advise that should be followed by all...

29 posted on 07/31/2011 11:00:34 PM PDT by Raven6 (What we need: More people that can shoot like Tennesseans and fight like Texans!)
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To: Ciexyz

“Anybody caught in the path of this raving hoard is in danger of their personal safety.”

How many do you think you’d have to shoot before the others ran?


30 posted on 07/31/2011 11:00:58 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Kartographer

How long will the water last in those plastic jugs you get at the grocery store?

Sorry to ask such a rudimentary question.


31 posted on 07/31/2011 11:04:41 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Kartographer

FerFAL lives in Argentina and has an excellent survival blog:

blogspot.ferfal.com

He is very knowledgeable about self-defense and weaponry. He has a great sense of humor too, and is politically a libertarian (hates the Kirschners, Peronistas, etc.). I hope he finds a way to get to the US.


32 posted on 07/31/2011 11:13:35 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: I see my hands

That location reminds me of the mountain log cabin the family had in my hometown. The last mile you were pretty much on a road with grass growing between the tire ruts. Nothing else out there but our cabin. And before that you traveled from a secondary road to many branches off that to a couple dirt roads and then the main drive to the cabin itself. But what a great place it was!


33 posted on 07/31/2011 11:22:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: dsc

“How long will the water last in those plastic jugs you get at the grocery store?”

They can start leaking after 6 months.

Many people transfer water into washed-out cola bottles, which last far longer than in the jugs. You have to add a small amount of pure bleach to disinfect, but I can’t remember how much. Google around for instructions.


34 posted on 07/31/2011 11:46:24 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: PastorBooks

6-8 drops Clorox per gallon. You should smell it. Let sit 24 hours. Rinse cap with it at first but wait 1 day to put it back on. Stay safe, diarrhea degrades your aim.


35 posted on 08/01/2011 12:17:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: I see my hands
"You can say that again. I'm finishing our retreat. To get there you have to go to the middle of nowhere, then 20 miles down the dirt road to the other dirt road and take that another 5 miles."

That description leads me to believe that it's probably a very peaceful place. Nice!


36 posted on 08/01/2011 1:56:56 AM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: dsc

Only one or two. The down side: once one or two of their homies gets popped, the next flash-mob, and all other flash-mobs in. th e future, will liky be armed.

Imagine a flash-mob of 100 armed with guns.


37 posted on 08/01/2011 2:28:40 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Kartographer
Poor America.

You know, I would have kinda' thought this was fringe, nutcake stuff long ago.

But not that much anymore these days. Looking at other countries. Seeing Hollywood Blvd. the other night in LA. Knowing the power of Twitter to assemble large, anarchic entitled, pissed off Obamanastic crowds and illegales in a matter of minutes at one location...past US riots.....on and a on an on on and on...the beat dont stop till the break of dawn.....

At least to be prepared is to live in a better state of peace of mind, I will say that much.

Love your family, and protect them (and yourself), and have a plan folks. Then just live life, but you will know in the back of your mind you have some modicum of control over events.

38 posted on 08/01/2011 2:40:41 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Obama is reelected some how, in your heart of hearts, then, WHAT does that say about "America"?)
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To: ctdonath2

At least someone who is thinking.

I get a kick outta these who buy into the food storage thing when you can go down and buy pasta, canned goods, rice etc and put them on the shelf. If one persists, they can get a shrink wrap machine and simply do the very thing the food storage people do. Or a food dehydrator.


39 posted on 08/01/2011 2:47:30 AM PDT by crz
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To: Kartographer

I hate to see some of you come December 21st, 2012. =.=


40 posted on 08/01/2011 3:17:53 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Terry Mross
The same thing that was supposed to happen with 5/5/2000: nothing. =.=
41 posted on 08/01/2011 3:18:47 AM PDT by cranked
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To: ctdonath2
"Costco has 50lbs rice for $17 and 50lbs bread flour for $16."

Remember, buy WHITE rice - almost as nutricious as brown rice but stores a LOT longer.

42 posted on 08/01/2011 4:35:57 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: dsc

Out of the light they last a very long time, purified water kept out of light in general last a very long time the most that usually happens is it goes flat as the air goes out of it, but shake it up a bit or pour back and forth from container to container and it will be just fine. The problem with those ‘Milk Type’ jugs is that they almost always develope leaks over time.


43 posted on 08/01/2011 5:11:09 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: caww
"If this continues across the nation watch the states and cities establish curviews"

Oh yeah a curfew would work, that would just scare the 'bejesus' out of such punks.
44 posted on 08/01/2011 5:17:42 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: cranked

And what was suppose to happen on 5/5/2000?

Because the event that FerFal talks about happening in Dec. of 2001 did happen.


45 posted on 08/01/2011 5:23:28 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Ciexyz
Wow.

I just went on a family vacation with another family who was pretty clueless about the state we are in. My husband showed the father some youtubes of these "flash mobs" to which he promptly said, "this isn't happening in our city". We laughed and said, it's spreading like wildfire. Anywhere with large populations of Holder's people is going to see this kind of thing. Sorry but it's true.

46 posted on 08/01/2011 5:27:01 AM PDT by riri
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To: crz

I get a kick outta these people who use terms like ‘shrink wrap machine’ and yet think they know what ‘preppers’ do.


47 posted on 08/01/2011 5:59:56 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
In a SHFT situation calling on LEO’s for help I think will end in not only not getting help you need, but actually end up with you very sorry you called.

Hubby is ex-LE and I used to work in conjunction with them but agree they're the last ones you want to call. The ones here can't so much as do a check on noise in the neighborhood much less anything worse. They screw up cases and destroy innocent people's lives to the point of suicide. No, the further away LE stays, the better even in the best of times. I'd manage without but would be a happy camper for a 15 minute warning before the electricity shuts down. Just enough time to top off the water supply the easy way. The moochers, have been making their way through my bottled water all summer ($%%#@!) so that's first on the list when they're outta here in a couple weeks. Just hold this crisis off a few more days and I'm good.

48 posted on 08/01/2011 7:09:26 AM PDT by bgill
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To: familyop

Same here. Sometimes it’s weeks between trips into town and the grocery store. It’s been months since I was in the big city.


49 posted on 08/01/2011 7:14:08 AM PDT by bgill
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To: goat granny
I can tie a small container (styrofoam cup) to a string and lower it down the well pipe to scoop up water. It's a pain but it works in an emergency.
50 posted on 08/01/2011 7:20:04 AM PDT by bgill
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