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London Burning: Something Wicked This Way Comes?
Grand Rants ^ | 08-09-11 | Gerry Ashley

Posted on 08/09/2011 10:11:15 AM PDT by Stoutcat

London is burning. Following the shooting death (by police) of a young black man suspected of being a gang member, thugs and looters have taken to the streets en masse, baring the ugly side of humanity by employing random violence throughout the Tottenham area in North London. On some streets, not a single business has been left un-looted.

In some ways, it’s not unlike similar riots we have seen here in America: A police action against a minority that is seen as questionable (or, in the eyes of the minority community, racially motivated). And before all the facts are uncovered, a few members in that minority community rush to judgement and take matters into their own hands. The result? Rioting, looting, and unfortunately, casualties.

But there is a difference in London’s rioting; and I fear it may be a harbinger of something far darker. And I fear even more that it may well spread world-wide, including here in America. Call it the perfect storm of societal breakdown. And it crosses all racial, ethnic, and religious lines.

Feeding my fear is that, even as I write this, the rioting is now spreading, not just to other parts of London, but also to other cities in England as reported in the Christian Science Monitor… including Birmingham, Bristol, Nottingham, Liverpool, Oxford and Reading… all cities that have no direct connection with the shooting incident.

That raises the question: At this point, is the rioting just about the shooting? Or has society simply reached a flash point where thugs (regardless of background) are becoming so brazen they are taking the attitude of ‘Let’s just do it! There ain’t enough cops to stop us all”...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Society
KEYWORDS: cameron; england; london; riots
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1 posted on 08/09/2011 10:11:18 AM PDT by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

Coming to America soon....wait already happening here with all the flash mobs and especially after the Wisconsin state fair incident...

Society breaking down fast....


2 posted on 08/09/2011 10:14:36 AM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: Stoutcat

Let us know when the rioters move to city that allows concealed carry.

Somehow I doubt we will see pictures of victims being forced to strip naked while other watch on.


3 posted on 08/09/2011 10:15:59 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Stoutcat

I experienced the 2001 Cincinnati riots. The cause was the same, police shooting of a minority, and the opportunists were out in full force.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Cincinnati_riots

I’m actually surprised we haven’t witnessed more riots in America however I don’t believe we are far off. They’ll swiftly come if Obama is defeated and heavy cuts are made to entitlement programs. Perhaps it’s all the free government cell phones that are keeping the peace?


4 posted on 08/09/2011 10:17:48 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: Stoutcat

It’s hard to believe that the rioting was ever about the shooting. Maybe the shooting was an excuse in the demented minds of these youth gangs.


5 posted on 08/09/2011 10:17:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I truly think that is exactly it.


6 posted on 08/09/2011 10:19:06 AM PDT by Stoutcat (I aim to misbehave)
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To: Stoutcat

“The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our time”.
— Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Grey of Fallodon (1914)

“Beacons of warning are being lit all over Europe. We shall not see them extinguished except by rivers of blood.”
— ClearCase_guy


7 posted on 08/09/2011 10:20:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: thackney
Let us know when the rioters move to city that allows concealed carry.

There won't be enough available semis with refers to haul the bodies away.
8 posted on 08/09/2011 10:20:48 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Stoutcat

The military can’t intervene because that makes citizens the enemy. (Not debating it here: you just don’t go there if you want the nation to stay intact.)

The police can’t intervene because there’re outnumbered and the spark for the event (at least in London). They can’t induce enough casualties to stop it without crossing the line and becoming criminals themselves.

Hence a value of the 2nd Amendment: it’s the locals drawing the line. Stuff stops right quick when neighbors say “no” in unison and stand the line.


9 posted on 08/09/2011 10:23:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Stoutcat

Paint your side and upper door posts with looter’s blood, as a sign for the plague to pass you by.


10 posted on 08/09/2011 10:24:59 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: Stoutcat

Don’t go around tonight,
Well, it’s bound to take your life,
There’s a bad moon on the rise.

Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we’re in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.


11 posted on 08/09/2011 10:26:33 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: TSgt

These riots just don’t make sense to me.

Okay, we’re saying that the minority community is angry, feels racism and all that. Okay, can someone explain how looting a store is what you should do because of this perceived racism? How does this help your cause? Did the store owner of the store you burned down have anything to do with the police action in the first place? Is he/she racist at all? Yet he/she has their lives ruined because of this action.

Most of the news stories haven’t mentioned the racial or ethnic background of the rioters, or how this all started.

Consider the rioting in so many cities after Martin Luther King was killed. How does that violence somehow honor a man who was committed to non-violence? And how does stealing and burning down buildings somehow get even for the perceived discrimination???

It sure seems that rioting sets back race relations, and, sets back redevelopment and urban renewal in our cities. Some sections of Washington, DC, still looked bombed out years after the riots of ‘68. A few days of rage can set things back decades. I’ve heard that some parts of Detroit never recovered after the riots of ‘67 there.


12 posted on 08/09/2011 10:27:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: ctdonath2
"The military can’t intervene because that makes citizens the enemy."

The NG was called out in Detroit in '67.

13 posted on 08/09/2011 10:27:23 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"I’ve heard that some parts of Detroit never recovered after the riots of ‘67 there."
14 posted on 08/09/2011 10:29:36 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ctdonath2

Spot-on!

“The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon,” Home Secretary Theresa May told Sky News. “The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.”
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UK-cop-says-plastic-bullets-apf-1064590163.html?x=0

Um, might want to reconsider the water cannons...


15 posted on 08/09/2011 10:30:51 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our time”.

My absolute favorite quote from "The Guns of August". Sadly, I agree that is what we are witnessing.

16 posted on 08/09/2011 10:42:38 AM PDT by caper gal 1 (Rubio/Ryan Ryan/Rubio 2012)
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To: Paladin2

In ‘67 in Detroit we had something similar. National Guard called in, they ran over a few cars with tanks, shot a few people and it was over.

Detroit was already in decline in the ‘60’s.

Britain will not even use water cannons. They are just lost.


17 posted on 08/09/2011 10:46:27 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Paladin2

Funny how soundbites are expected to address all historical nuances.

Yeah, there might be a few cases where it turned out OK. General rules akin to “don’t go there - you might not come back” are not proven wrong when one comes back.


18 posted on 08/09/2011 10:49:30 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2

Although I’m not in agreement with your first two points, I agree with your conclusion completely.

2nd Amendment rights — together with a well-armed citizenry — is far better than any other alternative way of handling this situation.


19 posted on 08/09/2011 10:50:45 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: TSgt

“Stop! or I’ll say ‘Stop!’ again!”


20 posted on 08/09/2011 10:51:19 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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