Posted on 08/10/2011 8:14:17 PM PDT by publius321
I was watching Hannity tonight. After the nauseating promo to garner sympathy for Mitt Romney, as though we should follow the narrative that we should support Romney just because the liberals are attacking him- there was a lady on his panel that was rightly asserting that the violence in Europe is a symptom of immorality.
They were pointing out the fact that liberal policies are cultivating the entitlement mentality that foments this violence when the giveaways are taken away. When Hannity brought up the Great Depression and how violent crime actually went DOWN then – as opposed to what’s happening now, his guest pointed out immorality as the difference between the two time periods. That reminded me of this vid I made back in2007 before the mortgage meltdown when I made that point...
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I’m not sure if liberalism create immorality, or if it’s the other way around. Sometimes I think blaming liberalism for idiots is letting them off the hook as victims. Maybe they are just immoral idiots, and they spawn liberalism, not the other way around. Just a thought.
The end of prohibition may have made a lot of organized crime go down, but there were a lot of notable robbers during the time.
I’m always skeptical about these comparisons. Sure, there is a lot of creepy stuff going on now. But there was creepy stuff back then, too. And there are vituous people now, too.
I think folks throw these comparisons around too easily.
It’s the morality of ethnicity, stupid. Not aimed at you but that’s your answer. Some ethnicities have morality, most don’t.
There were also anarchists, commies, nazis, etc. etc.
Kinda like now, in fact.
Maybe worse back then in many respects.
I don’t know, I wasn’t there. Just read about it. :-)
I think it's largely the fact that where the consequences of violent crime are mild and uncertain, even nonexistent, then criminals will run rampant. That would have happened here too, but we have never totally castrated our police as the brits have.
Our test is coming however, these flash mobs and racial thug attacks are the harbingers, and I hope our police forces are ready to deal decisively. We know from watching London that puny half-measures will never do.
None of those characters would have been able to pull off five bank jobs in this century. Banks until 1970 were low-hanging fruit and law enforcement was primitive until about the same era.
Liberalism IS immorality.
Liberalism is about anything goes, don’t judge me, all I care about is me. Whatever I want to do, I have a RIGHT to do and EFF you if you don’t like it. Ends justify the means.
All of the above is immoral. Liberalism IS the philosophy that is based on and embodies (ie has a foundation of) immorality.
I was talking about the society as a whole, as I referred to Jim Cramer’s -advice- as an honorable financial strategy to walk away from our covenents. He had no compunction about telling people to just walk away from their mortgages simply because the market stopped going up.
The people obviously took his “advice” and we are living out the ramifications. The nation as a whole had more integrity back then. The nation as a whole does not reflect the values it once held. If we cannot see that, we are in big trouble
Immorality is destroying this country, not capitalism. All this nation seems to care about is Dancing with the Stars/American Idol, porn and entitlements. Adams said “this constitution was made only for a moral and religious people & it is inadequate for the government of any other.” The same is true with capitalism which is democracy’s corollary.
It doesn’t take a sage to see the morality of this nation is what is behind our implosion. Yes, there are and always have been “high profile” criminals. I’m not talking about Al Capone or Babay Face Nelson like some here point out. The few cases of notorious criminals will ALWAYS exist. What is destroying us are not the notorious few. It is the immoral many. Instead of learning from our wrong doing, we are compounding it as a nation.
The financial situation of this country and the rat demagoguery remind me of four tumultous periods: 1789 - 1794, 1917-1989, 1959-2011, and 1978-2011. The rats want to lead us into tyranny and class uprising.
Our test is coming however, these flash mobs and racial thug attacks are the harbingers, and I hope our police forces are ready to deal decisively. We know from watching London that puny half-measures will never do.
I agree with all of that.
Yawn. Rose-colored glasses about the past is SO boring.
Substitute Amos & Andy for Dancing with the Stars and all of the above was pretty much true of the 1930s.
Also the violent crime rate in the US has been steadily dropping, and especially rapidly in the last couple years.
So I’m not really certain what your point is even about.
Of course, I’m sure you think a few anecdotes about scary stuff you see on the news is more valid evidence than carefully compiled nationwide statistics.
If liberals were not involved in heavy social engineering, I would agree with you. But they are involved in cleansing the native cultures of their political and economic targets.
For example, America used to have a melting pot National culture and everyone was exposed to American ideology, life and values in schools through history and civics. Our ideology was based in the original intent of constitution with the addition of being inclusive of women and minorities as amended. The ideology of American freedom was what united us. Our lives and values were to live independently, morally and lawfully as people need to do to survive and thrive in a constitutional Republic with individual rights and devoid of a police state.
Liberals replaced it with foreign and racial tribalism. They replaced the constitutional ideology delivered in civics and history with racist diversity in social studies which delivers the ideology of racial scapegoating, race based economic jealously and socialism - which is unconstitutional.
Liberals are responsible for the societial breakdown of the West that we are seeing.
In a way, blaming liberals for the behavior of individuals is like blaming "predatory lenders" for people making bad loans. But, maybe I am wrong.
It's true that kids are impressionable, and are spoon fed a bunch of rot. Then again, their parents allow it to happen.
I don't know. I think there is truth in what you say. I just don't like letting people off the hook for their own personal choices. I mean, I grant everyone the eternal peace and mercy I want for myself. But in the meantime, people need to man up and own their own decisions.
I agree with you all the way.
Wrong. There is NO ethnicity that is more 'moral' than any other. Some individuals are more moral, but just because someone is Anglo, or Latino, or Slavic, etc. doesn't, in itself, make them any more or less moral than any other person. We are ALL each capable of great morality, or great sinfulness.
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