(Vanity) Thoughts on Perry

grey_whiskers | Aug. 16, 2011 | grey_whiskers

[TBP]

http://www.rlc.org/2011/08/12/texas-rlc-sends-out-warning-on-rick-perry/

[South40]

Rick Perry is a proven RINO: globalist, open-borders, Islamic sycophant, given to totalitarian impulses (enforced vaccinations, Trans-Texas corridor).

Don't forget fraud.

[ansel12]

In 1988, Al Gore was left wing enough to only score 9 in the ACU rating, in 1987 it was 6, in 1986 it was 9.

If in 1988 just as we were on the brink of defeating the Soviet Union, you wanted Al Gore to replace President Reagan, then something was desperately wrong with you.

[jessduntno]

"Those who attack Perry point out that Perry issued an executive order in February 2007 mandating that all Texas girls be vaccinated with Gardasil before admission to the sixth grade." -snip- "
Perry’s defenders counter with two points: first, that the Executive Order was not truly mandatory, as there was an opt-out clause for parents..." --------------- Which was it?

[South40]

If in 1988 just as we were on the brink of defeating the Soviet Union, you wanted Al Gore to replace President Reagan, then something was desperately wrong with you.

Or you are a real conservative who is going to save us from the pro-illegal alien liberals. /s

[wardaddy]

When Palin enters...if she does then use your ammo.

But hear this...should Perry get the nomination...and he could I think.

This forum and Fresno will heartily support him.

So careful...things change here on a dime.

Meanwhile I think Bachmann and even Perry are more to the social right than what I’m used to seeing GOP do at this stage and I am tickled pink...Romeny seems to be working on a collapsed bilge pump

and if Sarah does enter then mo better

we might actually end up with a strong winner all said and done

Romney pulling all these strings is fantasy..he is not doing good...it ain’t complicated...money out the butt and name and establishment power and can’t make headway now that things have cranked up...not good for him.

This race is Perry..Bachmann and Palin should she enter...sounds great.

Folks here who have walked a social conservative wastleand since Lord Magnus should be happy too...we are in decent shape

[BuckeyeTexan]

Those who keep repeating the horsesh*t claims that Perry is soft on Islam, pro-Islam, pro-Sharia should educate themselves on the matter instead of accepting Pamela Geller’s article as the truth. The source for her information was Salon. (SALON as a source for conservatives?!)

Start here: http://www.countercontempt.com/archives/1945

[SoConPubbie]

But all of this seems to me to miss the main point. With all of the furor over Obamacare and mandatory payments, why is it a good thing to order mandatory vaccines for something which is picked up through *voluntary* behaviour? If we are interested in conservatism, and part of conservatism is sexual morality, why was Perry implicitly “throwing in the towel” by ordering a mandatory vaccine for STDs, with only an opt-out? Doesn’t this undermine the moral authority of the parents? This sounds more like a Romney-type stunt than the behaviour of a true conservative!

Grey_Wiskers, you nailed it with the first part of your post!

Bravo!

Let's see what the Perry Apologists have to say about this.

[Lazlo in PA]

Bachmann supported Carter to keep Reagan out. What is your point. At least Perry had an excuse. He was a politician in the south. Remember the Solid South. It can be noted that he switched parties immediately after that. Believe it or not, Algore was the most Conservative Rat running that year. He wasn’t the crazy Communist he is today. Pro Life and do you remember Tippers record labels? 1988 was a long time ago. I just keep going back to this from 2009.

“He walks the walk of a true conservative,” [Sarah] Palin writes. “And he sticks by his guns — and you know how I feel about guns.”

[JustAnotherOne]

“I will no longer vote for a RINO, no matter how much I’m told I’m supposed to like it.

It’s time for you Texans to get in the barrel and swallow.”

Much as others wish this, not going to happen. Y’all aint got the cash. If you personally have the cash, please name your declared candidate. Palin got her marching orders on Monday, August 15th. Anyone extorting cash from you after Monday is a plant.

[SoConPubbie]

I also think this belief that there is a conspiracy by the elites to install this guy falls apart when you note that the Bushes and Rove hate Perry. They are the elites after all.

Lazlo, you're late to the party. The Bushes and Perry have made-up.

[South40]

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit stating that he or she objected to the vaccine for religious or philosophical reasons.

Even with such provisions, however, conservative groups say mandates take away parents' rights to be the primary medical decision maker for their children.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8N1PVG80&show_article=1

[CitizenUSA]

You won't get flamed by me. Frankly, I don't know what to believe about Governor Perry at this point. Certain posters started pushing him awhile back. At the time, I wondered where the support was coming from, especially since many Texas FReepers were dead set against reelecting him in the governor campaign. Don't forget. This guy was challenged in the primary from the right.

Governor Perry comes across as a competent guy. That's actually a compliment coming from someone who believes most politicians are detestable socialists. On the other hand, I don't think there's any evidence he bucked his party or the system in a serious attempt to cut government. Reducing government's role in our daily lives would be pretty revolutionary in an era of big government, but it's what I expect from “conservative” leaders.

His fans will no doubt provide a plethora of facts proving Perry (slightly) cut government spending, once one adjusts for inflation and population growth and excludes federal mandates. They have an explanation for virtually everything. Perry coddled illegal immigrants? No. He wants a secure border (or a Mexico so robust no one wants to cross an unprotected border). The problem isn't so much that there's an answer for every question. The problem is there's so many questions!

Perry supporters give me the funny feeling I'm talking to used car salesmen. Truth be told, I don't need to be sold on a candidate. Consider Michelle Bachmann or Herman Cain. I'm entirely comfortable with either one as I sense they're ideological bedfellows. Sarah Palin gives me the same sense. She's one of us, a conservative.

I don't doubt Governor Perry would make a far better president than Obama. Any of the Republicans would be better, including Romney. It would be hard to do worse! I just don't think Perry is the conservative I'm looking for.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I didn’t lie about a damn thing. You’re not a Texan. WTF would you know about Texas politics in 1988? Obviously not a damn thing since you asked such an uninformed question. Texas was controlled by Democrats then not Republicans. Perry was a Democrat. He supported the most conservative Democratic candidate. Reagan has nothing to do with the equation.

[DRey]

Excellent post, Lazlo. Thank you.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

Perry’s history of the Texas Dream Act, and the TTC with possible “North American Union” connections, are definite concerns. I don’t know if he would try to foist amnesty on us. If he did succeed at that he would not be much better than Obama.

The muslim charge seems to be a smear job. I don’t think he is associating with jihadists.

The Gardasil episode is a definite negative, and I think it is antithetical to Perry’s “image” as a pro-freedom, small government fighter.

Rasmusses does not include Palin in the poll because she hasn’t declared. Wait to see if other polls coming out are in line with Rasmussen.

[SoConPubbie]

I didn’t lie about a damn thing. You’re not a Texan. WTF would you know about Texas politics in 1988? Obviously not a damn thing since you asked such an uninformed question. Texas was controlled by Democrats then not Republicans. Perry was a Democrat. He supported the most conservative Democratic candidate. Reagan has nothing to do with the equation.

So the most conservative Democrat had an ACU rating of 8%?

Do you know that Senator Feinstein of California had an ACU Rating of 9% last year?

[dragonblustar]

I’m not a fan of Perry. At this point though, I figure who ever is going to be the next president after Obama is going to have one hell of a time. They will not only have to clear up the mess left by Dumbo but also the MSM will act like demonic bastards because their guy failed and they will never allow a republican to recover Americas down fall and look good in the public eye for doing that.

Im going to support my guy first but if Perry makes it in the end, he’s going to have his work cut out for him and we will have to fight for the truth because the MSM go crazy trying to bring him down.

[LibFreeUSA]

The RHINESTONE RINO!

[DRey]

Wow. I did not know that about the $380. That makes even more sense. THANK YOU for explaining that!