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The Coming Wars
MarkAmerica ^ | 08/21/2011 | Mark America

Posted on 08/21/2011 2:00:18 PM PDT by MarkAmerica

For my conservative and Tea Party brethren, there must now be an acknowledgment that the immediate future looks quite grim. We have a country in some stage of collapse, though I contend that like a free-falling elevator, the rate at which it's falling may not be entirely apparent to its occupants until it hits the ground. As this situation worsens, we must consider what's ahead, how we'll stop it if we can, and salvage it if we're able. For the country to be restored, we'll be compelled to adopt a more proactive stance, because it's probably going to get messy. We face the greater war for our culture and our country, but before we can wage that one to a successful conclusion, we will need to win the opening skirmish.

The Presidential nomination cannot be allowed to go to a useless, tepid, weak candidate who will not pursue the restoration of the country with full vigor. We should consider this primary like an instructive field training exercise, whereby we will polish our skills and extend our endurance, because the other engagements will demand it. As I detailed yesterday, there can really be one candidate among all those under consideration who is able to take on this difficult duty and hope to prevail.

One of the problems in this political season is with us. We've largely failed to understand the larger trends and the clear signals of impending danger those trends are transmitting. People have compared this coming season to 1980, noting its significance is greater than all the election years from them until now. This is an error. A few have even remarked, myself one or twice, that his is more like 1932, but this is also wrong. It's much more substantial than that, and I need your undivided attention in considering it fully. The coming election year is most like 1860, and we're facing a different sort of war to stop a different sort of slavery, and to restore the freedom that had prevailed in most of the years since. I am going to say it more bluntly, because it needs to be said: We are near the tipping point into some sort of civil war.

You may now pause, and wish to ask if I might have blown a gasket, but ladies and gentlemen, we must admit what is true. We now have a government that issues more money to citizens(and some non-citizens) in some form of direct payment than it annually collects in revenues. Those same people are dissatisfied with the amount, and demand still more. Roughly 65% of the Federal government's expenditures go to some sort of redistributive or entitlement program. That includes agricultural subsidies, and most corporate welfare, but does not include the amount we've handed out in bail-outs on a one-time basis due to some supposed crisis or other. At the same time, we know that government is borrowing roughly 40% of what it spends. This means only 60% of its expenditures are covered by revenues. Let me ask once more: Do you not see a problem with this? Again, you are confronted with a stark reality: We now expend more on entitlements to individuals than we now collect. These same beneficiaries now scream that it isn't enough, and are beginning to threaten civil unrest in thinly veiled words.

Whether violence erupts before or after the elections, there will be at least some domestic strife. Leftist groups now openly agitate for "Days of Rage." Consider what message this is meant to deliver. You don't pay enough, they argue , and whether through threats or violence, they intend to have whatever they want and demand. Need I clarify this further? You say, "but Mark, surely they can see you can't squeeze blood from a turnip." I'm telling you that they're willing to settle for turnip soup. You can try to rationalize it in any manner you wish, and try to comfort yourself with the notion that these people wouldn't eat the goose that lays the golden egg. I'm telling you flatly that they'll happily pluck and roast the engine of capitalism because they have been convinced that they're entitled to do so. Who convinced them? You did.

You convinced them because in every previous challenge, in the name of "getting along," or "being compassionate," you have wavered and relented in the face of their demands. With the creation of each additional program over the last century or so, you've said to them that their unlimited wishes will be met. Has it never bothered you that people who claim to seek help due to a desperate need now make their requests in the form of a demand? Finally, and perhaps a bit too late, you're onto them. That's what the Tea Party really is: It's born of the recognition that it's time to begin saying "No." Your problem is that they're no longer accustomed to being told "No." Why would they be otherwise? You have acceded to all previous demands. We have arrived fully in the age of moral cannibalism, and what now threatens our future is the real thing in all its terrifying forms.

This civil war will not be defined so much by geography as by ethical orientation, but in truth, if we examine the last civil war, the lines merely happened to coincide with geography, but it too was about legal and moral considerations. What defined the last war was a notion about the right of states as sovereigns, irrespective the underlying issues, and the object was the ultimate power of the Federal government. Everything that has happened since is an outgrowth of the resolved issue of Federal supremacy over the states, but as was inevitable, once the states were almost fully subdued, all that remained was to then control local governments and ultimately, individuals. Rather than having a tiered system, wherein most citizens seldom deal directly with the federal or even state establishments, we have grown all levels of government in such a thoroughly entangled manner, with power over individual citizens being routinely exercised at all levels that rather than resembling the orderly layered cake our founders conceived, our governments now resemble a stew. It is now nearly impossible to discern the individual parts without some effort to separate them. If we are to repair our country, we'll be forced to begin rebuilding our layer cake, each layer with its own distinctive flavor and function. As it is, we now have federal authorities wishing to impose Commercial Drivers' Licenses on farmers on their own property. We have local officials intervening in other matters, like the right to keep and bear arms, where their authority to restrict rights guaranteed under the federal constitution ought to be negligible. The more you turn this over in your head, and the more thoroughly you grasp what has been done, it becomes clear that whatever layer of government you ought to be engaging in a particular matter, if at all, they are becoming one uniform mass from top to bottom. We are becoming the Soviet Union.

If this all seems a bit too overly dramatic to you, consider the increasingly frequent instances of local governments gone berserk with power, with such things as requiring business licenses of children who wish to set up lemonade stands. There shouldn't be an American alive who doesn't get a sick feeling in the pit of the stomach at the mere thought. That some sort of ridiculously power-hungry government officials who would even think to enforce such a thing should cause you no shortage of concern. No, we mustn't allow our children to experiment in capitalism. No, we mustn't let them experience a capitalism limited only by the extent of their own dedication and imagination. Do you see what this does to our culture, at is simplest, most innocent root? It corrupts it with cynicism about an honest day's work or entrepreneurship and instills submission to the arbitrary demands of government officials, no matter how unreasonable. I now ask you: Isn't this what we have permitted ourselves to become?

I can already imagine the critiques of my leftist counterparts, who will in shrill tones denounce and dismiss what I have said, in the main because they know it to be true. Somehow, like every vanguard of statist "intellectuals" in history, the current crop also believes they will somehow be held harmless and immune, but in truth, once those of us who stand for liberty are displaced, what these self-defrauding useful idiots will discover is that we had been the only thing protecting them, too.

Now, considering this as your actual situation, and armed with this knowledge, what are you to do? Will you flee? Submit? What will be your course? For my part, I will fight. For now, we may expect to fight as we are, in politics, and words, but there may yet come a time when more will be required. To defend this Republic, I will give all if need be. My oath didn't end with my term of service, and I don't know of any statute of limitation upon it. I know most of you feel likewise. Let us work now with extra fervor within the political process in the sincere effort to avert the worst of it.

Part of our problem, nationally, but particularly as conservatives and Republicans, exists in the realm of what we called "enemy identification" when I was in the Army. If you don't know who to fight, it's damned-well difficult to prevail. The simplest answer must be that we must oppose any who wish to further trample our constitution, or otherwise negate its guarantees. We must also demand a stoppage to the inclusion of false guarantees it never contained, but have been increasingly discovered there nonetheless.

We must arise for the task before us, and it is a solemn and difficult chore in the best of times. We must restore our governments, all of them, to their proper limited roles. Some number of our fellow Americans are going to resist a restoration because it means that so much of what they've come to demand by right will no longer be, and this is the first point of conflict, and the threat of that moment will be the probable impetus to a change in the terms of this struggle from the political to the violent. The question is again laid before us: What sort of nation shall we be? What sort of freedom do you seek? What is a right?

We've been building to this for a very long time. The resolution will likely be as sudden in a historical sense as it is likely to be final. Will we continue as a Republic, restoring our liberties, or will we be fundamentally transformed into something even worse than we've already become? Ayn Rand once admonished us through the fictional character of John Galt in the book Atlas Shrugged that no nation could continue indefinitely as half property and half loot. Look around you. What have we become? As we live out the worst of that novel, and seem poised to go to a still more ignominious end, I'm asking you to consider arresting its decline while there's still time. It may be that I'm no different from those in the book who thought it could be saved when it couldn't, but I suspect we've still enough people who know the lessons of history well enough to avoid repeating them.

If that's so, then let us embark on this first campaign, not to wrest control yet from our statist adversaries of the left, but of their complicit collaborators who would claim our friendship on our side. We must settle on a candidate who will be able to bring them back into the fold, without making further compromise to them. Then we can begin to gear ourselves up for the larger struggle. Mark Levin had it right when he titled his book Liberty and Tyranny. Those are now the distinct choices. There has been only one individual of national prominence who has stated this basic thesis consistently, in many contexts and forms for the last three years or more. None have said it more succinctly or plainly. In 2012, we will have Barack Obama on their side of this argument, and we will have Sarah Palin on ours, if we're wise. There turns the conflict. There will be determined the course of our nation. Will we restore our nation, or slide over the precipice into historical insignificance? Will we emerge as a nation aimed back in the direction of liberty, or will we follow the path of tyranny? The choice is yours, and the time to make it is running out.

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To: wtc911
I was born in 1963. I'm sorry, but you're flat out wrong. In those previous times things were much different:

---We didn't have a housing crisis.

---We didn't have 20 million bold and self-entitled illegals occupying our country.

---We hadn't shipped almost our entire manufacturing base overseas.

---We weren't $14 trillion in debt.

---We didn't have a two party system that consisted of a leftist party (R) and a straight-up Marxist one(D).

51 posted on 08/21/2011 3:47:36 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: wtc911
I assume that you were not around as an integrated adult during the race/right/war/anti-everything civil violence of the fifties, sixties and early seventies...We have been through much worse. We will get through this.

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that those tumultuous times never really ended; they were not something that happened and that we recovered from. In fact, those movements and events occurred during our long slide downhill, and we're pretty close to hitting the bottom now. Those anti-everything hippies weren't defeated; they now run the US government and most of the lower governments. Restoring our country and culture is going to require much more decisive action than just waiting it out.
52 posted on 08/21/2011 3:48:35 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: MarkAmerica

I think the difference is that many leftist politicians in the past thought their policies would make this a greater country. They were mistaken. Today’s leftist politicians hate this country and want a Cloward-Piven Strategy to destroy it. Looking at their policies, they are right on target. I think we are in for a big fight no matter who wins the next presidential election. What Atlas Shrugged omitted was the leftists killing tens of millions who did not want to be slaves. So many times that the total killed by their own leftist governments in the last century exceeds 100 million. The current regime of Mao lovers is pretty transparent for those paying attention.

53 posted on 08/21/2011 3:48:35 PM PDT by MtnClimber (A government powerful enough to tell you what to eat can tell you when you can breathe.)
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To: Travis McGee

I’m holding down Corner #4...I am well motivated, well educated, well trained, well “prepped”, well armed and turn ammo into skill at least once a week.

Sometimes though I fell like I’m holding down my “corner” by myself...then I log onto FR and realized there really is an extended FReeper family of like-minded souls who will cover my back.

I thin we’re all going to need each other in the very near future.

54 posted on 08/21/2011 3:49:07 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (There are only two classes of people left in the U.S. - Producers and Parasites.)
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To: MarkAmerica
These same beneficiaries now scream that it isn't enough, and are beginning to threaten civil unrest in thinly veiled words.

I'll see your "thinly veiled words"..........

and raise you with hard, pointed, high velocity lead.

If there is civil unrest, I'll do my level best to make sure it's very violent, one sided and short lived.

Go ahead....jump.

55 posted on 08/21/2011 3:50:47 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: glock rocks

so right.

and the masses of the left have been empowered by entitlements.

56 posted on 08/21/2011 3:51:18 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (where is the Great Santini when we need him??)
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To: steveo
"Even if our side was in power (if you could call them allies) I believe we’d still be heading down the same path. SO my wife and I have made our plans to get out while we still can. In three years one way or the other we will leave. I love my country and those here that still believe like me but my self-preservation instincts have kicked in. I see strife in the near future and plan to be half a world away before it comes to a head."

If Obama gets a second term, by whatever means, I expect there will be stringent capital controls to prevent transfers out of the country and various punitive measures to make leaving a real pain in the @#$$%! I also expect that retirement accounts like 401ks will be subject to some form of government control and levy that will be disguised as protecting the people from reduced value, but will really give the government the power to drawn the balances and replace them with worthless promises. I guess what I am saying is that individuals who are planning on relocating need to be moving assets now as much as possible.

57 posted on 08/21/2011 3:51:54 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: MarkAmerica

Yeah. We’re FUBAR.

1) A large percentage of Americans have never held a real job, much less aspired to a realistic career. Young people (and too many middle aged people) mark themselves with tattoos that make them virtually unemployable in a respectable business.

2) The corporations continue to take money out of the economy as Americans (and the government) borrow to pay the bills. Prices go up, but no one that takes home a paycheck is making more money. They tell the worker to remain loyal and then lay him off as soon as they can find a cheaper replacement. They rob our retirement accounts and give us a 401k and then Wall St computers ensure that the value never increases through a series of ups and downs that allows the big investors to profit, but screws the mutual fund holders.

3) The working class is beginning to see the futility of even trying to get ahead. Work is fast becoming something that only suckers do. Everyone else steals, scams, begs, and/or sticks a hand out for their money.

4) Morality is a joke that society uses to snicker at people they deem old-fashioned for working, staying married, respecting others, etc. Religion that means anything is laughed at, but any denomiation that is “tolerant” is hailed as the “next great path to heaven”.

5) All of our societal “systems” are broken. Education, justice, law enforcement, consumer protections, environmental protection are all designed to take money from the taxpayer and fund bloated bureaucracies that promise everything and deliver nothing. We even fight our wars so that the military-industrial complex can profit, while our men and women die for wars that the leaders have no intention of letting them win.

So, yes, we’re FUBAR. It will require a full reboot with a lot of pain and suffering to set things right again. It is something I do not want to see happen.

58 posted on 08/21/2011 3:55:38 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: LasVegasMac
If there is civil unrest, I'll do my level best to make sure it's very violent, one sided and short lived.

Amen to that. I'm not looking to find a better place to live overseas. I'm not looking to find an out-of-the-way place to hide from the coming troubles. I'm just waiting for go time, and then I'm going to wade in neck deep.
59 posted on 08/21/2011 3:58:23 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Travis McGee

A collapsing Federal Govt. doesn’t mean that the sates have disappeared. The next civil war will be like last one, a few states taking a chance on secession rather than going down with the ship.

60 posted on 08/21/2011 4:03:45 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Chode

Where did you hear that?

61 posted on 08/21/2011 4:05:09 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: MarkAmerica

Will the news media that is celebrating the rebels taking Libya today be as supportive of future patriots in this country who are forced to fight for freedom against our oppressive government, as the Declaration of Independence calls us to do? We all know the answer to that question.

62 posted on 08/21/2011 4:09:47 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Truth29

So in effect you are saying the left and Obama in particular see next year lose the election, they want to bring us down just like Hitler and the Nazi’s brought Germany down. They liberal want their own Gotterdamerung!

63 posted on 08/21/2011 4:15:05 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: wtc911; MarkAmerica
I remember the riots of the 60’s and violence of the 70’s. The great inflation of Nixon/Carter years. It ain't over yet, and it is too early to throw in the towel.

There are still more of us than there are of them. True that some of the kids today don't realize what they are missing. All the more reason to do it now before that memory fades into history.

The new congress critters are a start. Take over the Republican party from within, starting at the precinct level. Kick out the GOP Establishment. Take over the party and take back the country, but it will take longer than 8 years.

Then do the same thing with the democratic party. There are plenty of Reagan Democrats - get them working within their party to take it over and kick out the radical commies.

In America, when we don't like what's happening, we typically vote for the other party. Hence, we need the conservative people to nail down both parties.

I have another story to point to. Phyllis Schafly almost single handedly derailed the equal rights amendment, because she saw it as an attack on the family.

She had 3 presidents and most of Congress Critters against her. Certainly the News media also portrayed her as some sort of wild eyed freak. She won. So can we.

64 posted on 08/21/2011 4:29:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: justa-hairyape; Travis McGee
It would appear there are two versions of "the cube" out there.

Configuration Management is your friend. ;-)

65 posted on 08/21/2011 4:34:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: buccaneer81
All of the items on your list are significant problems that can easily be addressed and solved using past solutions to those same problems.

The battle is for the soul of America and to that end, President Barak obama has been a gift.

No one else has shown us the future in a way we cannot ignore. And since it scares us so badly, he now has our relatively undivided attention.

And, the majority of those paying attention don't like what they see. The fruits of progressivism/liberalism are exactly what we were warned they would be.

Even those who haven't been paying attention are feeling it and will take their displeasure out on the appropriately guilty if they have it 'splained to them.

And, that will take a good, plain spoken, common sense conservative who can keep people listening.

There's only one and it ain't Perry.

66 posted on 08/21/2011 4:36:12 PM PDT by GBA
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To: buccaneer81

“-—We didn’t have a two party system that consisted of a leftist party (R) and a straight-up Marxist one(D). “

Right On Target, with that one!!!!!

Got a great write-up on that topic right at the top of my site; pity the natives here forbid URLs...

67 posted on 08/21/2011 4:40:13 PM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: greeneyes

I don’t remember all of those events, but I do remember the aftermath somewhat. Like you, I’m not so willing to surrender, and like a few others, I’m not willing to walk away so easily, either.

I think that leaves me here for the fight, whatever it winds up looking like. Thanks!

68 posted on 08/21/2011 4:45:46 PM PDT by MarkAmerica (I support Sarah Palin because she supports me.)
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To: MarkAmerica

Movie detailing how the communist agenda has infiltrated and influenced our government, the enviromental movement, education, the universities etc for decades, and how it all comes together with 0bomba and his pals.

Very educational and informative and not the slightest bit wingnut. I take issue only with two details the historical research is excellent.

Personally I think it’s too late to fix anything without mayhem or violence. Why do I think this? Because the lefitsts are driven to violence, they insist on it, they want it, and they will have it. They refuse any other way.

69 posted on 08/21/2011 5:03:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: MarkAmerica
We need to remember we didn't get to this state overnight. Being born in the early 1950s, I remember life as it was then, and how much it's changed just in my lifetime. Think back to 50 years ago, when we stood on the threshold of manned space flight, and we were ALL proud to be Americans.

The mid and late 60s were disastrous to our social fabric in so many ways, we ended up throwing the baby out with the bathwater where American traditions and exceptionalism were concerned. And it's true that the anarchists of that time have wormed their way into all aspects of our life, still bent of reshaping our country into a bizarro world our founders wouldn't recognize. Worse still, these neo-leftists consider themselves smarter, better, and more clever than those of us who still honor hard work, education, ethics, religion, and patriotism. And they feel entitled to anything and everything they can grab for their ilk, being the "elite" among us, never once pausing to reflect upon the source of all wealth in this country - hard work from the private sector.

We won't change course overnight. All we can do to restore our country to what our founders had in mind is to stay involved, call 'em as we see 'em, and not be afraid of what we're being told by the MSM. They're on their deathbeds, and they know it, but they've already thrown in with the lawless, rogue government that currently is in occupied DC. So all they can do is hope that, somehow, the corrupt and amoral will somehow pull a rabbit out of the hat and prevail. They won't.

Why? Because America is more than just another country. It's also an ideal, not just to us, but to those who still live under oppression all over the globe. If it comes down to a domestic conflict between the productive and the parasitic, you know who has the motivation and the hardware to prevail. And it's not those who know nothing more than getting 2 checks each month while engaging in nothing but sloth and avarice.

And don't be surprised if our efforts are supported by the freedom loving from all corners of the globe. If America fails, we will have allowed the last, best hope of the rest of the world to be extinguished. And very few of us will simply stand by and watch it happen. Sure, some of us will turn tail and run off to a better life somewhere else. However, I don't think I could look in mirror knowing that I abandoned like minded patriots who all refused to be cowed by the corrupt into leaving their home.

A government that has abused the sacred trust of the people forfeits the consent of the governed. But they still depend on our respect of the law and desire for peace to keep us in line. And we'll continue to correct our nation's course through peaceful means, exercising our vote and networking whenever we can.

But they've seriously underestimated our anger, our motivation, and our willingness to confront evil when necessary. Because, after all, they're so much "smarter" than we are.

And that, is a very, very dangerous assumption.

70 posted on 08/21/2011 5:06:36 PM PDT by Tigerized
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To: Travis McGee
thx will do... i'll have to take it home then as i read it during lunch time at work
71 posted on 08/21/2011 5:09:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: going hot
it was a personal note to Travis as to where i am at in his new book Castigo Cay...
72 posted on 08/21/2011 5:12:17 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m reading the Whitaker Chambers book, The Witness, about his journey from the communist underground to a witness against it.

Chambers said that conservatives cannot adequately fight against communism because communists are waging war against democracy and freedom and all conservatives want to do is conserve the freedoms that we have.

73 posted on 08/21/2011 5:12:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: going hot
p.s. i highly recommend it as well as the EFAD trilogy
74 posted on 08/21/2011 5:15:08 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Eva

I really should read that book. Meant to, got it from library, gave it back, just pure laziness.

Communists don’t mind and in fact delight in using the dirtiest of dirty tactics. People using tournament rules fighting with dirty street fighters will always lose.

75 posted on 08/21/2011 5:18:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Chambers says that the end always justifies the means for communists.

I came across an interesting paragraph about something Bork said in his book, Slouching Toward Gomorrah, that I think pertains to what we are seeing right now, with the riots, the shootings at the football game, and last night, we had 4 people shot at our NW WA state fair.

Slouching Toward Gomorrah sounds like a book that I should read.

According to Mr. Bork, the enemy within that brings about this corrosion is modern liberalism, of which the defining characteristics are radical egalitarianism (”the equality of outcomes rather than of opportunities”) and radical individualism (”the drastic reduction of limits to personal gratification”). Modern liberalism differs from classical liberalism. Classic liberalism—the liberalism of Locke, Montesquieu, Smith, and Jefferson, for instance—has the twin thrusts of liberty and equality. But because liberalism has no corrective within itself, all it can do is endorse more liberty and demand more rights. This unqualified enthusiasm for liberty has trumped the need for order. In decades and centuries past, order took care of itself because liberty and equality were tempered by restraining forces in American culture—family, church, school, neighborhood, and inherited morality. Today the authority of those institutions has been eroded. As such, the concepts of liberty and equality have changed since their enshrinement in the Declaration of Independence. Liberty has become “moral anarchy.” Equality has become “despotic egalitarianism.” Rot and devastation follow. Such is modern liberalism.

76 posted on 08/21/2011 5:34:33 PM PDT by Eva
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To: ctdonath2
One of the main lessons (and easiest to understand and to explain) is the concept of inherently dangerous terrain during a civil conflict. Places that might be idyllic during normal times can become the worst hell-holes then.

Think of building towers in the Balkans, during prolonged mortar and sniper fire. No elevators, electricity, water or sewage. How many otherwise smart professionals live today in trendy condos that are “real convenient to downtown.”

Do they ever consider how their lives would be transformed if their building was cut off form services and was under prolonged harassing sniper fire, or worse?

(Incidentally, many of these brainiacs who live in these towers are the same ones who have helped engineer our financial demise, which they didn't see coming either.)

77 posted on 08/21/2011 6:39:16 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: central_va

That could very well come to pass.

78 posted on 08/21/2011 6:41:21 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: DuncanWaring

Yeah, I didn’t make the graphic, somebody made it from my scanned pencil drawing on graph paper. Then it got corrected part way, but both are still out there. No matter, the cube idea is much less complicated than that graphic appears.

79 posted on 08/21/2011 6:43:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: crazydad

I can’t type today....

80 posted on 08/21/2011 7:07:14 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: wtc911

much worse? no way on God’s green earth has it been worse than this, I’m sorry, but that’s not even something I’d call a stretch, just a blatant disregard for current events.

81 posted on 08/21/2011 7:27:31 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Travis McGee

Matt - on the list of the cube’s sides, it appears that urban and rural are transposed. Or, maybe I’m missing something with regard to the “near” and “far” designations.

82 posted on 08/21/2011 7:50:35 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

I know, I know. I didn’t create those sylish graphics, I had just scanned a sketch on graph paper and somebody else did the layout. Then there was a revised version made, but both still float around. But it’s not as complicated as that fully drawn cube implies. It can be grasped intuitively in the mind once the main corners are understood.

83 posted on 08/21/2011 7:56:48 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: MarkAmerica

Good essay. You’re doing a fine job. Thanks!

84 posted on 08/21/2011 7:58:02 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for the link.

85 posted on 08/21/2011 7:58:25 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: Charles Martel

Actually, the cube drawing is just the opening to this essay I wrote. It’w worth reading, I think.

86 posted on 08/21/2011 7:58:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (
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To: MarkAmerica

Demography is destiny. Ultimately, we’re screwed.

87 posted on 08/21/2011 8:02:07 PM PDT by 38special (For real...)
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To: MarkAmerica
Amen MarkAmerica...

I've been looking at this situation for over 25 years now... More than half my life. It's been like being the kid sitting on the last seat in the back of the bus, watching as we approach a high cliff at full speed. I've been yelling at the top of my lungs trying to get the attention of those around me and that of the bus driver (our governments at all levels), but still no one acknowledges or applies the brakes. So I, like you, am waiting for the crash to happen... I won't stop trying to get the attention of the other passengers or the driver, but the stopping distance of that bus is probably longer than the distance to the edge of the cliff at this point.

This whole circumstance hit me heavily around Memorial Day this past spring... I had been out to the check on my dad's marker and flag. I looked around and saw all of the flags in that cemetary and how disappointed those men and women would be to see us now....



The Gift They Gave Us

They fought and struggled to deliver it.
Some fell along the way.
Some silently recall their journey.
Some lay in silent graves.

We live our lives concerned with time,
Or what we have or haven’t got.
We’ve left their gift to wither away,
Since their hardships we forgot.

But I see the fields of stones and flags,
And a tear comes to my eye.
I hear their voice, they call to me.
They ask the question “Why?”

My son holds my hand and asks me,
“Daddy why are you so sad?”
I swallow hard and say “I’m okay”,
While I straighten the flag for my dad.

I stand up and realize,
The gift, it must be passed on.
I know I must restore it, though,
Before I leave it to my son.

I hear my dad – his voice is loud.
He says “You know what must be done!
Step up and make me proud my boy,
Give FREEDOM to your son!”

In memory of William S. Sanders, Sr., EM1, USN, WWII

Raven6 © 2011

88 posted on 08/21/2011 8:26:07 PM PDT by Raven6 (What we need: More people that can shoot like Tennesseans and fight like Texans!)
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To: MarkAmerica
Somehow, like every vanguard of statist "intellectuals" in history, the current crop also believes they will somehow be held harmless and immune...

They'll discover that nothing could be further from the truth. Think about who and what we're dealing with today: on the one hand there are those who seek to profit from trade with those who are clearly our enemies. They think that the rules of cause and effect, of consequences - unintended and otherwise - simply don't apply to them, and that their money and their influence can shield them from the outcomes of their choices. There are those who hate this country and everything it used to stand for. They hate, fear and despise the very concept of freedom and free will. The latter are the ones who silently cheered on 09/11 and later made smug pronouncements that we obviously deserved what we got. We must also remember that, at the very top and also behind the throne, so to speak, we are dealing with killers without conscience.

These people are not merely traitors to our own country – they are traitors to humanity itself. The cold hard truth is that given the current state of decay of the balance of powers that once held them in check, we're simply not going to be able to vote, talk, negotiate, beg, plead, apologize or debate our way out of what's coming our way this time around. Who's got the courage and intellectual honesty to think this though and call the road we're traveling and its ultimate destination by their proper names? As Victor Davis Hanson said in his 2004 National Review article, The 1930s, Again: A hard rain is going to fall:

The truth is that there is a great storm on the horizon, one that will pass — or bring upon us a hard rain the likes of which we have not seen in 60 years. Either we shall say "no more," deal with Iraq, and prepare for a long and hard war against murderers and terrorists — or we will have more and more of what happened on 9/11. History teaches us that certain nations, certain peoples, and certain religions at peculiar periods in their history take a momentary, but deadly leave of their senses...

That same theme, that of the descent into madness and mass murder by nations, peoples and political movements was echoed in the work of Norman Cohn, author of Warrant for Genocide, where he wrote:

"There exists a subterranean world, where pathological fantasies disguised as ideas are churned out by crooks and half-educated fanatics for the benefit of the ignorant and superstitious. There are times when that under-world emerges from the depths and suddenly fascinates, captures, and dominates multitudes of usually sane and responsible people. And it occasionally happens that this subterranean world becomes a political power and changes the course of history."

So it was with what Jean-François Revel characterized in his Last Exit to Utopia as, “the two most criminal regimes ever inflicted on the human race - the pinnacles of evil and imbecility achieved in a space of less than thirty years." That is, the monstrous evils of communism and National Socialism. And now we see it again today, this time, it's starting with the brown shirt-style thuggery of Marxist union goons.

Some might ask, “How could this have happened?“ The more thoughtful among us might ask instead, “How could this have happened over and over again – repeatedly throughout our modern history? “ The answer is this: men act on their ideas, and those ideas come from somewhere. Most of our fundamental ideas - the notions and the beliefs we have concerning morality, knowledge, reality - are originated by our philosophers and academicians. Most of us simply and gradually absorb the ideas available from our culture. It is in this manner that most people get their life-shaping ideas: indirectly - from the philosophers whose ideas ‘trickle down’ to popular culture, our educational institutions, the media, the arts, music and literature.

Yes, as VDH has said, there is indeed a storm on the way - and it's a terrible one, if we read the signs with an unflinching understanding of history and human nature. That persistent knocking on our front doors is that of history telling us that everything, literally everything can change in a heartbeat. From the transformation of beautiful Sarajevo to a flame-shot hell of ruin and slaughter to the collapse of the old Soviet Empire, from the democide of the Khmer Rouge regime to the cultural genocide of the Taliban and the true believers of Islam, from the murderous midnight raids of BATF and FBI jack-booted killers to the impact of the airliners on the Pentagon and the WTC - genocide, murder, the destruction of your life and your family and your home and livelihood is just a matter of whim and caprice now under the lawless regime of the 0bamunists.

Now think about what it might take to turn this around - those considerations make a mockery of what you see on the lamestream media outlets, doesn't it? It makes a mockery of what you hear coming from the mouths of our so-called 'leaders', doesn't it?

What it should make you realize is that, in the end, it all comes down to you and your willingness to fight for what you hold dear. To confront evil and call it by its proper name and destroy it.P> Don't look to your politicians for help. They're not listening and they don't care.

Don't look to the churches - most of them have become nothing more than the abode of the clergy of oppression; demons dance on their empty altars as they preach 'social justice', cowardice and what amounts to human sacrifice.

Don't look to the schools and the institutes of higher learning - they've become founts of ignorance, lies and hatred of the truth; they teach sheepery and passivity to our children.

All that's left is... you.

89 posted on 08/21/2011 9:23:02 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Chode; Travis McGee

Already had CC. Just bought the EFAD trilogy for my kindle last week.

Now if the world would just calm down long enough to read’em....

90 posted on 08/21/2011 9:52:18 PM PDT by papertyger
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping. Few understand there is only one government now. It is going to be that much more difficult.

91 posted on 08/22/2011 12:20:40 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping. What a depressing way to start the week.

92 posted on 08/22/2011 4:38:10 AM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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To: MarkAmerica
I don't think it's too late...yet....but it is getting very close to "too late".

We need to do WHATEVER WE CAN to defeat Obama. No one can refuse to vote in the next election, no matter who gets the nomination. We.Need.Every.Vote.

From the "White House Insider" series, a direct quote:

That’s how big – that’s how important this election coming up is. Even the people who pay attention to this stuff…they don’t realize how big this is. How important to the country. We are truly at a fork in the road here. This administration is going to attempt whatever necessary to remain in power. Race. Intimidation. Media attacks. Division – divide and f****** conquer. You notice how divisive the Republican primary campaigns have already started to become? You think that’s all occurring on its own? Hell no. Tens of millions of dollars are already being spent getting conservatives, Republicans, Independents, whatever – get them to attack each other. Get them frustrated and lower their desire to vote for the eventual nominee. You know, Republicans used to be the party that would unite behind the nominee when they were chosen – it frustrated the hell out of us Democrats who were always bitching over this or that right up until the election. That’s not the case anymore, and your Republicans are much weaker because of it. I’ll say this, if Republicans don’t get their shit together and vote for whoever is the nominee – and I mean WHOEVER is the nominee, then it will be another four years of Barack Obama running this country into the f******* dirt and that’s what we deserve. If we are too stupid as a country to fix this mess…then so be it. It’s over. The America we know, the America we knew – it’s over. Done. And we will only have ourselves to blame.

Read more:

Some don't give any credence to this series but what this guys says only makes sense. We've already seen it, in spades, here. All this bickering and infighting and attacking every. single. candidate.

Obviously the primary process will go forward and we certainly don't have to converge around one person right now. But when our nominee is eventually determined WE MUST SUPPORT HIM/HER. No one will be worse than Zero. No one.

93 posted on 08/22/2011 4:53:24 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: papertyger
i heard that...
94 posted on 08/22/2011 5:05:35 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: MarkAmerica
Too late. It has been "too late" for at least twenty years now...

And no, it won't get any easier the longer we wait.

95 posted on 08/22/2011 5:51:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: bamahead; rabscuttle385; SunkenCiv


96 posted on 08/22/2011 12:38:27 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us:
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To: MarkAmerica

“It is almost a law of history that the same wealth that generates a civilization announces its decay. For wealth produce ease as well as art; it softens a people to the ways of luxury and peace and invites invasion from stronger arms and hungrier mouths.”

- Will DuRant

97 posted on 08/22/2011 12:42:38 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: MarkAmerica
Where will you go(approximately) Steveo?

West of Guam, where my wife is from. The family owns rice fields.

98 posted on 08/22/2011 9:09:15 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Travis McGee

Great column! Thanks for pointing it out.

99 posted on 08/23/2011 4:12:32 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: wtc911

Before my brother died, he used to say

“Nah, thats not gonna happen”

You sound like my brother.

This is not 1968,

This is 1938.

We will get through this, but not without violence.

Violence will come to us.

Be a Boy Scout, be prepared.

100 posted on 08/23/2011 4:38:22 AM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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