Skip to comments.Cain Perry or Palin: Where do Conservatives go?
Posted on 09/26/2011 12:43:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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Cain Perry or Palin: Where do Conservatives go?
Assuming that Romney is rejected by ideological conservatives, except for a last resort stable fall back, conservatives will be making a huge decision and will start solidifying their support behind Cain, Perry or Palin.
This vacuum will be filled soon. Within the next couple of months. The "four more of Obama" fear is opening up the space and despite recent scientific data which challenges Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity, the law of Election Physics will speed up the process. Conservative Republicans know they have Obama (Jimmy Carter II) on the ropes and they are not messing around.
Cain: Cain has momentum coming out of his excellent debate performance, with the multiplier of Perry's meltdown. The key here is that Cain's people will have to adjust quickly and transition to Conservative Front Runner status. They have captured the attention of conservatives and now must parlay that by keeping that attention and building upon it. Galvanizing the grass roots will be the easy part, but they must request that vocally and publicly on a national basis. Garnering conservative's attention will not be enough.
The harder test will be one of Logistics. The Cain Campaign will have to go national, transitioning to organize nationally, while focusing on key states strategic to his winning. His "Business Man Protest" campaign will have to flesh out a staff to handle national organizing, financing and includes garnering local and state level politicians and fundraisers to come out and endorse Herman Cain. He needs Commitment. Kinetically moving from Trending and Momentum to front runner status will not be easy. The businessman will need to take a serious look at his staff and bring in more people. Expect huge gains in the next national Poll later this week.
Perry: Perry is an interesting case. His lackluster debate performances have imploded with a dreadful Florida Debate last week. Normally, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but this is not a normal year. He is losing air fast. He is a victim of his early success, with his bubble taking off with a positive explosion over Establishment candidate Mitt Romney. Now, a few bad debates later, his rhetorical stumbling has conservatives pulling back on strong support. Gov. Perry will need to earn those voters back.
Perry's staff is used to winning elections but should not be complacent. This bubble burst is for real. Conservatives instinctively realize that a poor debate or debate error will give the media the opportunity to run with the "he's not competent" story, they want to tell, in the liberal media's blatant support of Barrack Obama.
Perry will have to slow down the financing efforts and practice debating. It matters. In addition, he needs to do a better job of explaining his "children of illegals" empathy and policy. Most Republicans believe that Perry is making direct subsidies to illegals. He also needs to do a reset on his Border Security policies and come out with a modified "building the fence" initiative. Expect huge losses in the next national Poll later this week, potentially shocking losses of support.
Palin: Palin still has strong currency among base conservatives and Tea Party activists. Don't believe the spin about her negatives and GOP voters not wanting her to run etc. It's way to early to expect acceptance and most people have no idea where she stands on policy issues. Yet, her policies run right in line with the majority of Americans' viewpoint, excepting the liberal media and the uber Liberals.
Palin will have the same obstacles of Logistics that Cain has as stated above. However Gov. Palin has more national support lined up waiting to go and has the ability to take the air out of Cain's momentum at the drop of her announcement. It's all about the announcement or no announcement for Sarah Palin. Interestingly, just a few months ago pundits were saying it was too late for her now. Currently, pundits are advising that she can wait even longer. I would posit that those who want her to wait past the Florida deadline for registering for the Primary, are either miscalculating or don't have Palin's interest at heart. Expect Palin to get in the race the last week of October or expect her to not run.
Clue to clueless: It ain’t the Governors’ responsibility.
You twit. Jan Brewer is a Governor and has done more for her state than Perry could dream about. Go take your Radical Perry support somewhere else. It is not impressing me one bit.
I can support any of the three but what I care about is which one can dethrone Obama. That must be Priority One.
Booooo! Hooooo! I so wanted to impress you!
AZ problems are different than Texas...apples to oranges.
What is it that is so hard for you to admit it is the feds place...Not Brewer's or Perry's!
The feds are so helpful they're suing AZ & Brewer.
Boo Hoo back. He has been Governor for 10 years and only two with Obama. He didn’t hear him complaining about President Bush......doesn’t that make you question his motives??????? YES IT DOES. You better explain this one big time because you are on the short end of the stick of my proof.
Very astute observation bordering on clairvoyance ;-)
Cain is the only reasonable choice.
Perry shot himself in the foot last week and lost a lot of support and I will be very shocked if Palin runs at all (I don’t see it happening).
Your right, let's just show pics!
Go read up on who protects the borders!
He is now in the spotlight, and thats a credit to his ability to live and speak his basic principles, and his ability to articulate them (hmmm...hes starting to remind me of Reagan).
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I thought the same thing. Give him a chance and he will blow you away!
I wouldn’t count out Perry just yet, but he damaged himself and will need to work harder to regain voters’ trust.
If Palin does not enter, Cain, if his staff is ready, could shock the world.
My current thoughts on the Primary pecking order:
1. Palin - The most like Reagan.
2. Paul - To send an important message about the importance of the Constitution to whoever else does win the Primary.
(If Ron Paul actually does win, I don’t think he’ll succeed in decimating the military or bringing all the troops home, or ignoring our borders. He would, however, bring a seriously needed Constitutional shakeup to Washington.)
3. Cain - Too weak on the Fed, his Sales Tax is regressive, he may not be quite ready for the cesspool that is DC, but he’s more conservative than Perry.
4. Perry - Better than Romney
5. Most of the others - Still better than Romney.
Welcome to the club. I've believed that she's going to be the 45th president since the end of the 2008 election.
Palin's approval rating among Independents shot up over the last month. It was posted on lots of threads here in the last week.
Rick Perry has had ten long years to demand that our legislature get an effective anti-illegal immigration bill to his desk, but he hasn't.
In the 2010 midterms, Texans sent enough Republican freshmen to the state house, that they now hold the majority in both houses. So, what happened in this year's legislative session on illegal immigration? Several good anti-illegal immigration bills were purposely killed through legislative sleight of hand.
What did Rick Perry have to say about this? I don't know, because he never stood in front of the TV cameras lambasting the legislature for failing the citizens of Texas yet AGAIN.
In the meantime, other states have managed to do what Perry apologists claim is impossible - they pushed through the sort of bills that their citizens need and want. Their Governors and their representatives were RESPONSIVE to them.
Unfortunately, this just cannot be accomplished in Texas, and Rick Perry is completely blameless for this dismal failure.
>> Perhaps you might want to reconsider you emotion based attachment to Perry rather then objecting to the truth being spoken.<<
One only needs look at Perrys involvement in the TTC (Trans Texas Corridor) and how it fits into the North American Union to understand we dont need him.
Another video discussing the once proposed Texas trans corridor:
Perry proposing the corridor:
Interview with activist against the corridor:
Part one of the documentary discussed with the activist Terri Hall called Truth Be Tolled:
Perry and especially President Fox of Mexico comments are particular striking.
CAIN nails it....filled the vacuum like I said..
I like and respect Palin but why waste time analyzind such a scenerio instead of how we can beat Obama with who we have in case Palin doesn’t run. We don’t want these candidates to lose legitimacy visa- vis Obama. It would be a bitter irony.
The candidates will win or lose based on their own credentials and how they manage their campaigns.
The analysis is just an objective view of where I see things going. Personally, I’m not convinced Palin will run, but we will know by Oct 31, which is the filing deadline for Florida.
That is a month from now...as the Zogby Poll shows, a lot can change in a month. I personally believe Cain is going to solidify support...but Palin is a factor until she is out.
I believe Palin may get behind Cain btw.
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