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1 posted on 10/31/2011 10:50:26 AM PDT by martosko
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I bet this is a combination of Obuggery and Myth Remulak.


2 posted on 10/31/2011 10:51:43 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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Mitt and the vichey. They’re going to Clarence Thomas him. It’s not whether it’s true, it’s the seriousness of the charge. Mitt and the old guard are Anita Hill.


3 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:01 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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but then again this is politics. Isn’t it?”

RINOS are territorial Herman. Just keep your eyes sharp and remember that RINOs aren't very bright and you'll be fine.
4 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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This is going around the Blaze, Facebook, and other sites right now. It seems a staffer in an opponents camp magically knew this was coming a few days before it hit and, shock, tweeted about it.

http://www.twitter.com/#!/slmbolick/status/129770632018788352


5 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:12 AM PDT by mnehring
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Why bring up a Republican rival?

Is he trying to imply something?


6 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:18 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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7 posted on 10/31/2011 10:53:53 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Someone needs to dig into Politico and find out.

It could be Romney. It could be the RINO Establishment. It could be any of Cain’s other opponents. And it could be Gang Obama.

Obama might do it if their internal polling shows that Cain would wipe the floor with him in the general election.


10 posted on 10/31/2011 10:55:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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I suspect the Rovebot GOP Establishment is behind this. They have been doing everything they can to derail Cain. This sort of sleazy tactics is right up their ally.


13 posted on 10/31/2011 10:56:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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As I read it, this issue is basically summed up as follows:

On one side (Politico) you have this:


We have a report where we know nothing about the accusers and the specifics of the accusations from a dozen years ago.

They, at this point, are simply reported very vaguely by Politico: “episodes that left the women upset and offended” and “physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable," and that, "they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”

We have allegation of payoff in the five figure range, but again, nothing specific. IMHO, until the accusers come up with something much more specific, like names, dates and places, it is going to continue to be nothing more than an attemted smear campaign from my perspecitve.

Maybe Politico has more...time will tell, but at this point, it's not out there.


...and then, on the other side (Herman Cain's) you have this:
Ron Magruder, Denise Marie Fugo and Joseph Fassler, the chair, vice chair and immediate past chairman of the National Restaurant Association board of directors through the entire time of Cain’s position at the Restruant Association, said they hadn’t heard about any complaints regarding Cain making unwanted advances.

“I have never heard that. It would be news to me,” said Fugo, who runs a Cleveland, Ohio, catering company, adding such behavior would be totally out of character for the Cain she knew. “He’s very gracious.”

Fassler, who helped bring Cain on board as CEO of the restaurant association, said that any inappropriate behavior was not brought to his attention and that he would be upset to learn it had gone on and he was not made aware of it.

“That’s a shock to me,” Fassler said. “As an officer during all of Herman’s years there as a paid executive… none of that stuff ever surfaced to me. Nobody ever called me, complained about this, nor did I ever hear that from Peter Kilgore, nor did I ever hear that from Herman Cain.”

Fassler — who ran a Phoenix food-service company and finished his term as chairman the month before Cain’s June 1999 departure but remained on the board’s executive committee — described Cain as treating men and women identically and asserted it was “not within his character” to make unwanted advances. “It’s not what I know of him,” Fassler said.

Much like Fassler, almost all board members remember Cain fondly and say he left on good terms.

Cain was “extremely professional” and “fair” to female staffers at the restaurant association, recalled Lee Ellen Hayes, who said she “worked fairly closely with” Cain in the late 1990s, when she was an executive at the National Restaurant Association Education Fund, a Chicago-based offshoot of the group.

Cain’s treatment of women was “the same as his treatment of men. Herman treated everyone great,” said Mary Ann Cricchio, who was elected to the board of the restaurant group in 1998. She said Cain left such a good impression on the organization that when he spoke at a group event in January of this year, as he was considering a presidential bid, “he had unanimous support in the room.”


Very specific denials and testinomies to Cain's professionalism and behavior from very specific people over very specific time frames which would have covered the events in question.

So, at this pont, who you gonna believe?

And, at this point I do not believe it was the DNC that did this. Too soon. They would have held it for the general. I believe some RINOs, afraid of what Cain represents and his climb in the polls, are taking shots at him.

But, they will have to be a LOT more spoecific than this, and Cain's responses today have been forthright in denial. He said the accusations were flat out false, and everyone who knows the man and has worked with him indicates such accusations are not believable.

15 posted on 10/31/2011 10:57:45 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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This is exactly how Mitt Romney’s political aides work.


31 posted on 10/31/2011 11:07:54 AM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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This guy needs to wake up and smell the petunias. If this were a rival, they would have waited until AFTER the primaries and convention. If Cain won, THEN you dump it out.


32 posted on 10/31/2011 11:09:51 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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Hard to believe? Really?
DC establishment red/blue, don’t matter, they’ll try to keep out anyone that might not play ball.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 11:19:25 AM PDT by moehoward
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Romney would do it in a heartbeat if he had the information.
45 posted on 10/31/2011 11:25:36 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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Whether a Republican rival leaked the story or not really doesn't matter. Politicol has already written the story with its allegation from a “reliable source” and will release it when they feel its the perfect time to drop the other shoe. They won't be able to prove it but the damage will be done to two candidates anyway.
52 posted on 10/31/2011 11:32:45 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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I was involved in a crowded Republican primary for Congress. Most of the opposition research wasn’t used, but all the candidates and their campagns had a fair idea of what was out there on everybody else.

That’s basic prep. Don’t be caught off guard.

Silly and bad message discipline for a Perry op to hint at what’s to come, but that doesn’t mean that the Perry camp is behind the story. At this point, the accusation of republican fratricide is as serious as the story itself, and shouldn’t be made lightly or without evidence.

We should deal in facts. They’ll come out.


53 posted on 10/31/2011 11:33:30 AM PDT by ziravan (You don't have to be a rocket scientist to be President. . . but it helps!)
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I really hope Cain doesn’t do days of denails on this story. He gave one and that is enough unless something else surfaces that contradicts him.

I really like Cain even though I am not committed to him as a candidate, but I know a slime job when I see one. This is despicable stuff.


54 posted on 10/31/2011 11:34:51 AM PDT by Chandalier (You say Obama, I say O-blame-o!)
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I think this is the old and dying media establishment still thinking they can do the dirty work for the Dems.

Go Herman.

56 posted on 10/31/2011 11:37:52 AM PDT by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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The story published by Politico on Sunday neither named any sources nor identified the two women who the news outlet said “complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain” while he was CEO of the National Restaurant Association.

So, could Politico be making it up?

We should assume they are until they out their sources. Then we can fairly evaluate the sources ...

57 posted on 10/31/2011 11:38:28 AM PDT by cynwoody
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Some of Cain’s trailer-park-trash supporters are accusing Christian gentleman, Rick Perry. No doubt the same ones who reacted with excitable fervor over Cain’s remarks/’joke’ about electrocuting Mexicans.


64 posted on 10/31/2011 11:49:35 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin, Palin, Blackwell & Sowell do.)
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73 posted on 10/31/2011 12:12:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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