[Future Useless Eater]

Could anyone discern who was the supposed mother of Bari Malik Shabazz? I read the article, but didn't see it mentioned. I assume from the story, that it must have been some neighborhood woman, who lived ONE BLOCK away from Malcolm, and NOT the woman that Malcolm was married to and living with.

It might be interesting to see BMS's birth records, school records, school yearbooks, drivers license photo, girlfriends recollections and photos of him, etc...

And especially, did the biological birth mother of BMS happen to die in 1970? (...in 1982 when Virginia Geoldner and her husband and children visited the Dunhams, Madelyn told the Goeldners that the boy they had been looking after, who was now on the mainland at college, had been living with them SINCE HIS MOTHER DIED IN 1970. - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=128#128

There are quite a lot of details in this new story about BMS that don't jive with what few realities we thought we already knew about BHO II, but then I'm not sure we really know ANYTHING about him.

I'd have to see a few more dots connected before I start swallowing this BMS = BHO II story.

...hmm, while I'm on this subject, if this picture on the left, apparently taken in Indonesia in late 1970 (since Maya was born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia) is legitimate, then how could Barry have been in the 3rd grade Hawaii in 1969 with Scott Inoue in 1969? And does he really look TWO years younger in the photo on the right?

Also, could SAD just be the 'nanny' in that photo, who took over (assuming Maya's mother died during childbirth) in 1970? That could help explain why BHO needed new foster parents in 1971 and ended up with SAD's mom in Hawaii. And that would still keep Virginia Geoldner's story intact.

Fred Nerks, has anyone seen the tax returns of SAD prior to 1971? Or better yet, prior to 1970?

[Fred Nerks]

Link to the original article:

“Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”

http://www.nlrtimes.com/articles/2008/11/14/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt

[Fred Nerks]

...There are quite a lot of details in this new story about BMS that don't jive with what few realities we thought we already knew about BHO II, but then I'm not sure we really know ANYTHING about him...

The article contains the following:

From the Social Security Death Index database:

SHABAZZ, B M

28 Oct 1959

Aug 1994 (V) 34 (PE)

(none specified) New York 084-54-5926

I take that to mean date of birth 28 October 1959, date of (unverified)'death' August 1994.

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But if we go back to a previous article BY THE SAME AUTHOR - we find this:

A photo in Muhammad Speaks places Stanley Ann Dunham and Baby Barack at Malcolm X’s Nation Of Islam Annual Rally in Chicago, Illinois. Allegedly taken on 23 February 1962, the date is coincident with Stanley Ann’s alleged enrollment at The University Of Washington in Seattle.

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So I see a major disconnect - he can't have been born in 1959 and be a few months of age in the image FROM AN EVENT IN FEBRUARY - that appeared in 'Muhammad Speaks' in APRIL 1962.

As for the date is coincident with Stanley Ann’s alleged enrollment at The University Of Washington in Seattle the transcript we have seen commences September 1961, iirc.

[SunkenCiv]

thanks Future Useless Eater.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2801934/posts?page=21#21

[Plummz]

Alternate scenario:

There was a Bari Shabazz born in 1959. For several years as a child he lived in Hawaii and went to Noelani school under the identity BARACK OBAMA II. The documents were available because Our Barry was in Indonesia at the madrassa at the time under the name Soetoro. Stanley Armour Dunahm was a hardcore Commie agent and he would have gladly made the identity available for beg, barter, or trade through the Commie networks.

When Our Barry returned from Indonesia to Hawaii, he attended Punahou as BARACK OBAMA II and Bari X was given another name and possibly moved elsewhere.

Bari X, whoever he became, may very well have been killed in either 1982 or 1994 as the path was paved for Our Barry.

[TigersEye]

And does he really look TWO years younger in the photo on the right?

Actually he looks a year or two younger in the photo on the left.

[LucyT]

Catching up with a few comments that might have been missed.

Check out # 21 , # 32 , and # 69 .

Then, # 76 , and # 77 .

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[Thanks for all the pings.]