Thanks for the memories Vlad!
Posted on 11/06/2011 7:07:21 PM PST by Morgana
Speaking on a Vatican proposal to restructure world finance, a Cardinal declared, "We should not be afraid to propose ideas even if they might destabilize pre-existing balances of power that prevail over the weakest."
And does this include the position enjoyed by the Vatican as well?
Or is this yet another example of the "don't do as I do, do as I say" mentality that prevails among globalist elites?
Before calling for the redistribution of global wealth, shouldn't an institution calling for such divest itself of its ostentatious finery that, despite having a certain beauty, wasn't necessarily part of the founder's original business plan when operating in the field?
Before lecturing the rest of us how we need a goodly portion of what we have taken away in the name of the downtrodden, how about telling the downtrodden to exercise a little control over themselves by refraining from having so many children that they can't afford?
Isn't that the greater act of selfishness, going through with one's own carnal enjoyment despite knowing the that the life of the resultant progeny will be likely destitution?
Shouldn't one of the world's foremost moral authorities instead be calling for more independent creation of wealth rather than the centralized bureaucratic redistribution of such resources?
The Vatican insists such reforms are required in order to make the world economy more responsive to democracy.
So what is going to protect Vatican assets when the enemies of all forms of Christianity vote to confiscate that institution's vast and historically varied holdings?
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Normally I would not ask for a catholic ping, but I really need some help with this topic.
Some out there in ProtestantLand attack me for being Anti Birth control. Then this story about the Vatican breaks out.
Could you all PLEASE help me with both?
Thanks
the vatican is marxist
and anti-capitalist.
When I posted the original story back on Oct. 24th, there were many who corrected me on the source. They said it wasn't from "The Vatican," but from an obscure dept of it named "Justice and Peace."
Nevertheless, here we are, a couple weeks removed. Since the original story broke, no Vatican officials (to my knowledge) have distanced the church from it.
Until then, I'll have to work on the assumption The Vatican accepts it.
Actually the Vatican is opposed to Marxism and embraces responsible free markets.
You wrote:
“Nevertheless, here we are, a couple weeks removed. Since the original story broke, no Vatican officials (to my knowledge) have distanced the church from it.”
Since it isn’t from the Church (i.e. an offical statement of the Church) why would ANYONE have to distance the Church from it?
“Until then, I’ll have to work on the assumption The Vatican accepts it.”
Boy, you have far less than a clue on this.
Pope On Economy: World Needs New Financial Order
NICOLE WINFIELD 07/ 7/09 04:38 PM AP
VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict XVI called Tuesday for a new world financial order guided by ethics and the search for the common good, denouncing the profit-at-all-cost mentality blamed for bringing about the global financial meltdown.
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doesn’t sound very capitalist to me.
Before lecturing the rest of us how we need a goodly portion of what we have taken away in the name of the downtrodden, how about telling the downtrodden to exercise a little control over themselves by refraining from having so many children that they can’t afford?
In other words, if you can’t feed ‘em don’t breed ‘em!
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I want to remind you that the author is not Catholic. Although he is speaking of married couples. He is asking married couples to sin by taking contraception.
One would think that God would provide the husband and wife with everything they need for their baby? This is called “trust and faith” in God? HHHMMM?
Is that department part of the church, or not? If a cabinet official made a controversial announcement and the WH did not respond, you’d be correct in assuming it’s accepted.
Who cares how it sounds to someone sho doesn’t know what he’s talking about?
First of all do you really believe we live in a completely capitalist society? We don’t. We live in a limited free market society (and always have really). Secondly, I don’t think most people would object to “a new world financial order guided by ethics and the search for the common good, denouncing the profit-at-all-cost mentality”. I am all for people making money, but not at that cost of morals. Do you think morals have no place in the market place?
you’re rude.
i shall not read any more replies from you.
Thanks for the memories Vlad!
You wrote:
“Is that department part of the church, or not?”
The office, yes. The statement, no. It’s a white paper. It has no impact upon Church teaching, governance, or the laity. Got that yet?
“If a cabinet official made a controversial announcement and the WH did not respond, you’d be correct in assuming it’s accepted.”
Are you really so out of touch as to think an institution established by Jesus Christ and 2,000 years old is going to function like the White House? That seems to be the number one problem with twits who go after the Vatican for what one department issues as a white paper. Most people are too stupid to actually know what their talking about in this because they have no clue as to how the Vatican works. This thread has already proved that much.
I would much rather be rude than a liar. It is simply a lie to say the Vatican is Marxist.
The Pope and the Vatican need to tend to the pedophiles within its walls and matters of faith. Butt-out of the political and economic issues.
Vlad I posted this because I wanted to know what was going on!!!
PLEASE tell me!!! PLEASE!!!!
The Church doesn’t work that way. Officials can make a comment, but that is far from the Pope stating the same.
Whatever credibility you thought you had on the subject evaporated with that idiotic statement. Anyone with a pedestrian knowledge of religion....any religion....knows The Vatican and other religious institutions have had times when they've functioned like a government bureaucracies.....and worse.
I'm out of touch? Open a history book.
well....19 comments since I posted this thread and still I don’t have answers to my questions.......................................
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