Posted on 11/09/2011 9:24:04 PM PST by lbryce
The Steve Sax of political debaters.
“I’m interested in hearing what the Perry-winkles on this website have to say about his debate gaffe tonight. Will they still defend Rick Perry and try to tell us that he should be the GOP nominee who will have to debate the silver-tongued Obama?”
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Vinca here, what do you want to hear exactly? Isn’t it more that you wish to gloat and poke at a tender spot?
You obviously see it as different sides— they and us—what will THEY do, what will they tell US.
Perry screwed up, if it was his first time...it would fly. It wasn’t and it is obvious media/people can’t resist digging that wound even deeper. So, Perry is most likely done.
Perry being done won’t make it any better for Cain, as a matter of fact, it will get much worse for Cain.
I will also remember this gloating and not forget to gloat when Cain starts his decent and it will happen.
Maybe I will skip acting like the US have because I don’t want to be like that—bad sportsmanship and all.
G’day and enjoy your smugness whilst you can.
I am doing financial analytics on it now. I call it a "BCR" (Bimbos-to-Contributions-Ratio). I am trying to get the matrix that will give me, in the thousands of dollars, per woman allegation, which value each woman has for new campaign contributions to the Herman Cain campaign by the increasingly fired up and angry base.
My current figure is about $202,000 per bimbette. And as always, his poll numbers will continue to stay steady, and with people like Gov. Perry more than likely dropping from the race, we can pick up even more support.
At this rate, the way I figured it, we need about 10 more groping or nasty talk allegations over the next three weeks, to help us rake in over here at Cain Central at little over $2,000,000, which can be allotted in thirds to Iowa ($673,000), New Hampshire ($673,000) and South Carolina ($673,000).
Keep the charges coming!!! It is the greatest thing to happen.
I am doing financial analytics on it now. I call it a "BCR" (Bimbos-to-Contributions-Ratio). I am trying to get the matrix that will give me, in the thousands of dollars, per woman allegation, which value each woman has for new campaign contributions to the Herman Cain campaign by the increasingly fired up and angry base.
My current figure is about $202,000 per bimbette. And as always, his poll numbers will continue to stay steady, and with people like Gov. Perry more than likely dropping from the race, we can pick up even more support.
At this rate, the way I figured it, we need about 10 more groping or nasty talk allegations over the next three weeks, to help us rake in over here at Cain Central at little over $2,000,000, which can be allotted in thirds to Iowa ($673,000), New Hampshire ($673,000) and South Carolina ($673,000).
Keep the charges coming!!! It is the greatest thing to happen.
I actually think it's just a ploy to get enough Conservatives to abandon their support of Cain thinking he's not electable. That's why we get constant negative, and baseless, attacks against him, along with the fact he's not treated like a front runner, and it's often not even mentioned in articles and television coverage of him. They will talk about him at the same time as they talk about a much lower polling candidate, as if they are actually in contention with each other. Liberals, and many establishment Republicans, are just hoping he drops in the polls overnight. I don't think that's going to happen, but if it did happen I think Romney wins the nomination easy, and I don't see someone else rising high enough in the polls to take Romney on if that happens.
I don't see people who lost significant support making a comeback, and I don't see the guys polling extremely low from day one having much more success than they have had. I see Cain as our last Conservative candidate with a real chance to win, and I hope others can accept their candidates losing, and eventually get behind Cain in time to secure a solid win over Romney.
The liberal attacks on Cain have only shown to help him raise money at the moment. They did the same thing to Sarah Palin, and it did make some Conservatives who were huge fans of hers start thinking they couldn't support her if she ran, because they believed she wouldn't be electable in the general election.
It's up to us Conservatives to not allow the liberal media to slowly manipulate our views overtime with constant barrages trying to get us to divide our Conservative support between different candidates. They can never turn Conservatives into liberals, but making Conservatives question whether a candidate is electable or not is something they can brainwash some Conservatives into believing overtime.
I've already seen a supposed Cain supporter who said he was worried about the general election now if Cain won the primary. I have my doubts that he really supported Cain to begin with, but any Conservative that lets the liberal media influence which Conservative candidates they support are very ignorant. That's their strategy, and it also gives you a hint at who they really fear in the general election.
Cain and Perry aren't even close in the polls, and the only thing Perry is doing now is helping Romney's campaign. He doesn't have the political views, or debating skills, to change things. His illegal immigration policy is horrible, and he can't defend it in anyway to pick up the Conservatives he lost, and he doesn't have the ability to communicate good enough to pick up any new supporters. People need to start choosing either Romney or Cain, and that goes for the other candidates as well.
You’re right, he was perfectly good all during the debate
except for that senior moment. But the common wisdom that he’s not a good debater preceded him, and will dog him in the future. When he sees the steady drop in his poll numbers both his enthusiasm and his donor dollars will start to dry up.
He channels his inner Howard Dean.
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Never. I will go Gingrich.
If not Gingrich, then Bachmann, Santorum, big maybe even Ron Paul but never Cain or Romney.
Never.
I agree...he is a very good man.
However, some people don’t debate well, and some people don’t test well.
Bless his heart...he doesn’t have either gift.
I’m sorry for your pain and I’m sorry that it took you so long to realize that Perry is done. Most people realized it after the first Debate. Those of us who have had to live with him in Texas, all these years, realized it decades ago. But, just for the record: All my eggs are NOT in the Cain basket. I like Newt equally as well as I like Cain. I like Santorum and I like Bachmann (even though she is somewhat of a light-weight herself). This thing isn’t over. Regardless of how it goes, I won’t have to be put on suicide watch. So, go ahead and remember my “gloating”; no skin off my nose. I have options. And, it’s not gloating; it’s relief. I’m relieved that people are waking up and realizing that this guy would have been a disaster as a nominee and given Obama 4 more years.
It’s not that Perry is a great candidate but compared to the other conservatives, and Romney is not a conservative, Perry is the best.
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Perry is the best??? God help us and please hurry. Unbelievable!!!
Looks like a lot of people don’t have a problem with obummer getting another 4yrs to finish what he started, destroying the country.
I would actually vote for those you mentioned if they were to win the Republican nomination, but I don’t see it happening at this point. Gingrich is the only one who’s moved in the polls, but I would like him a lot better if he took a much stronger stance on illegal immigration than he does.
I wouldn’t vote for Romney the same as you, but I don’t understand why you wouldn’t support Herman Cain if he won the nomination. It’s easy to understand not supporting Romney(I also wouldn’t vote for Perry based on his pro-illegal immigration history, but he’s irrelevant at this point) in the general election, but what is it that would make you not vote for Herman Cain in the general election?
I like that’s Cain’s an outsider who has a history of taking illegal immigration serious unlike most people we have had this close to the White House. I also think he can fix the economy, and create jobs. Illegal immigration is one of the major issues that’s ignored by most politicians. I see it as important as getting our economy back on track, and creating jobs. Those are things that must be solved for the survival of our nation.
But like I said before I feel it’s down to Romney and Cain which is why I said I believe people need to choose soon. Gingrich has had a little movement, but the others aren’t really in the race whatsoever in my opinion. I don’t think Gingrich will win either, but he’s moved up some, so I do put him in a different category than the others.
I can see you supporting someone other than Cain until we have a Republican nominee, but I don’t see what the Conservative Herman Cain has that would make you never support him in the general election, while it’s obvious what the problem is with the liberal Romney.
http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues
“Oops.”
Train wreck.
Good riddance to Dubya Part II big govt for Jesus garbage.
I don't think he ever really wanted to run - he was talked into it. Maybe it's that reluctance that comes through in debates.
In his press conference the other day Cain stated firmly that he was running for his children and grandchildren: he feels he has a duty to try to avert the coming American train wreck. That faith may see him through the sleazy attacks. Meanwhile, after this, Cain and Gingrich will split what little support Perry has left.
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