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Posted on 11/11/2011 8:03:06 AM PST by pwatson

Ok, I have to rant. There are some Freepers who seem to really, really hate certain candidates. A majority of their post are saying sometimes nasty and mean things about that candidate. This is so typical of what’s wrong with Republicans and Conservatives in general. We will eat our own candidates and pull defeat from the jaws of victory. I see the same thing in Religion, which explains why there are dozens of Christian churches within miles of my house each claiming to be the "correct" way to God. I am in Texas. I like Perry but he has made some bad decisions, border, Gardasil, trans-corridor. Still he is generally a good guy and governor. In the debates he proved he is an Aggie. Gingrich, he was great in 1994 with the contract with America, but let the glee of his victory get the best of him and over reached his mandate and lost to the Democrats. Sill he is a smart guy and has good ideas. Cain, I like a lot, good personality, executive skills, but not perfect. Bachmann, great ideas but jumped the gun to many times and eventually showed she needed to what she says a little better. Santorum, great guy and ideas but just lacks charisma and can’t make the sale enough to gain traction. Paul is our Texas crazy Uncle, love him and his ideas on money but does not know how to be a little less anti Israel and not so open borders on foreign affairs. Yes he is right we spend way too much as the military for the world, but come on Islamic nuts with Nukes not a good idea. Romney, a smart guy, typical East Coast liberal Country Club Republican, not a Conservative or Libertarian by any measures. He is more of a wonk than a leader and not my choice. Huntsman, wow that guy sure looks like my Gay uncle Harley, his ideas seem, well not Republican, Conservative or Libertarian. So back to my point. All of these Candidates have flaws and some good points the top appears to be firming up to be Cain and Newt vs. Romney.


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1 posted on 11/11/2011 8:03:07 AM PST by pwatson
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To: pwatson

Simple rule of thumb for Freepers should be.

Don’t just spend your time trash talking the other candidates, make a case FOR your candidate.

If you throw punches around, people are going to punch back.


2 posted on 11/11/2011 8:06:37 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: pwatson

Oh, waaa waaa. The primaries are where the fight is fought, after that support goes to the victor.
My experience is when people write a blurb like this they are a rino supporter, it may not be in your case at all, that’s just my experience.


3 posted on 11/11/2011 8:07:37 AM PST by svcw
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To: pwatson
There are some Freepers who seem to really, really hate certain candidates. A majority of their post are saying sometimes nasty and mean things about that candidate. This is so typical of what’s wrong with Republicans and Conservatives in general.

It's called the primaries. It's ALWAYS been this way......for both sides.

4 posted on 11/11/2011 8:07:42 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: pwatson

There is no civil discourse even if you agree on core issues which I do: Abortion, Second Amendment. If you voice your opinion lately, it gets quite nasty.


5 posted on 11/11/2011 8:07:47 AM PST by seoul62
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To: pwatson

“Mitt Romney”


6 posted on 11/11/2011 8:08:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: pwatson

True, they seem to be forgetting Reagan’s “11th” commandment.

“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican” ~ President Ronald Reagan

The following can be said of the recent slew of GOP debates: informative, tense, entertaining, captivating, and at times combative. Post-debate comments have ranged from “these two have a personal dislike for one another,” to “they are all ganging up on one guy,” to “whatever happened to Reagan’s 11th commandment?”


7 posted on 11/11/2011 8:08:14 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: pwatson

DOWN WITH PWATSON!

NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE! NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!

HELL NO! WE WON’T GO! HELL NO! WE WON’T GO!

(I’m sorry, what were you saying?)


8 posted on 11/11/2011 8:08:31 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: pwatson

Word of warning, pwatson... the very thing you complain of is company policy here at FR, with certain issues and especially with certain candidates. If you were hoping for civil discourse I’m afraid you’ll have to start your own forum.


9 posted on 11/11/2011 8:08:53 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: pwatson

Well unlike you I’m disatisfied with all of them.


10 posted on 11/11/2011 8:09:16 AM PST by bkepley
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To: Puppage
It's called the primaries. It's ALWAYS been this way......for both sides.

Exactly! Its how you separate the wheat from the chaff.

11 posted on 11/11/2011 8:09:37 AM PST by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: pwatson
Bachmann, great ideas but jumped the gun to many times and eventually showed she needed to what she says a little better.

Care to re-write that sentence? I can't figure it out.

12 posted on 11/11/2011 8:10:06 AM PST by Rio
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To: pwatson
You feel that RINOs are some of your "own"?

Smells like Mitt.

13 posted on 11/11/2011 8:10:36 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: pwatson

Jim Thompson (hehe) said FR WILL NOT be used to support Romney.


14 posted on 11/11/2011 8:10:46 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: pwatson
Immature people who are incapable of disagreeing without fighting. I understand spirited debate, but the fighting is stupid. Luckily, I think most freepers do not fit that description, but there are a few who do, and of course, those are the ones who stick out the most and are most noticable.

Don't let the 5% ruin it for the 95%.

15 posted on 11/11/2011 8:10:53 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: pwatson

“Gay uncle Harley”

LOL


16 posted on 11/11/2011 8:11:35 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: pwatson

And we cant spell iether...


17 posted on 11/11/2011 8:11:35 AM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: pwatson
Romney, a smart guy, typical East Coast liberal Country Club Republican, not a Conservative or Libertarian by any measures. He is more of a wonk than a leader and not my choice.

Just an FYI, I agree with your synopsis on the previous candidates. I like Cain and Newt, and could hold my nose for Perry if he gets the nomination. That said, FR is officially anti-Romney, and with damn good reason. He is indeed a fifth columnist within the GOP and there is no room on FR for progressive socialist-lite Romney-bots.

18 posted on 11/11/2011 8:11:51 AM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: svcw

Ouch.

I may write a blurb just for fun and get your take.

LOL


19 posted on 11/11/2011 8:12:28 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: real saxophonist

Or use paragraphs.


20 posted on 11/11/2011 8:12:41 AM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: pwatson

Don’t let it get your knickers in a twist. Just ignore it.


21 posted on 11/11/2011 8:12:51 AM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: pwatson
You need to “American Up”.

Most of the debates and discussion on FR are civil and fraught with ideas, facts and logical opinions. Many disagree. And there is nothing wrong with a bunch of like minded individuals debating the details of a larger ideological belief.

The more aggressive discussions usually stem from some ignorantly stated positions and a subsequent failure to provide some logical support for it. Ron Paul supporters are famous for this (not always). The Huntsman supporters get tarred and feathered around here simply because Chris Mathews gets all Wee Weed up over the “ultra conservative” John Huntsman.

So, I unapologigetically disagree with your opinion based on the above.

22 posted on 11/11/2011 8:14:45 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: seoul62

You need to first define what is conservatism then you can use that as a yardstick to measure candidates by.


23 posted on 11/11/2011 8:15:19 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: pwatson

Would pointing out that you spelled THEIR wrong in your headline be considered mean?


24 posted on 11/11/2011 8:15:57 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: seoul62
If you voice your opinion lately, it gets quite nasty.

Let's examine that for a moment. What is your opinion, Turdbreath?

(kidding of course)

25 posted on 11/11/2011 8:17:07 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: pwatson

Excellent post.


26 posted on 11/11/2011 8:17:09 AM PST by MplsSteve (Amy Klobuchar is no moderate. She's Al Franken with a nicer smile.)
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To: Oberon
Well I like a good debate and discussion, however I get tired of “this guy sucks” or “he will never get elected” or attacks not with some facts or ideas. I also hate loosing to Liberals, I hate it when we dont come together as a team and win. Defeating Liberalism and Socialism restoring limited constitutional republican government is our prime directive. I also understand that FR is where we who care come to debate and that's healthy.
27 posted on 11/11/2011 8:18:03 AM PST by pwatson
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To: pwatson

A great case for perfect being the enemy of good!


28 posted on 11/11/2011 8:18:29 AM PST by Chandalier (You say Obama, I say O-blame-o!)
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To: pwatson
I also hate loosing to Liberals,

I hate it when people misspell "losing."

29 posted on 11/11/2011 8:19:10 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: pwatson

This could be vey series.


30 posted on 11/11/2011 8:20:22 AM PST by jpl (What do the White House and Zuccotti Park have in common? They're both full of B.O.)
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To: pwatson
Well I like a good debate and discussion, however I get tired of “this guy sucks” or “he will never get elected” or attacks not with some facts or ideas.

I can appreciate that, but if you want anything to change you'll have to take it up with management.

31 posted on 11/11/2011 8:20:27 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: pwatson
I see the same thing in Religion, which explains why there are dozens of Christian churches within miles of my house each claiming to be the "correct" way to God.

If you've read the bible and understand what is written, you won't be confused as to who is a Christian. Mormons are not Christians.

32 posted on 11/11/2011 8:21:13 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Netizen
Exactly! Its how you separate the wheat from the chaff.

Yup. And when it's all done, we'll be told we MUST vote for the chaff, since that is our candidate in the general election.

33 posted on 11/11/2011 8:21:43 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: pwatson

Ok I am sorry for all those things I said about that slimy A__hole Willard Mitt Romney the frugal socialist.


34 posted on 11/11/2011 8:21:49 AM PST by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: pwatson
This is so typical of what’s wrong with Republicans and Conservatives in general. We will eat our own candidates...

No, we're not the only ones: Study the 2008 Democrat primary. Plenty o' ugliness there.

35 posted on 11/11/2011 8:21:51 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Paladin2

I wouldn’t say I hate Romney. I just really dislike him for president.


36 posted on 11/11/2011 8:22:10 AM PST by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: Rio
Bachmann, great ideas but jumped the gun to many times and eventually showed she needed to what she says a little better.
Care to re-write that sentence? I can't figure it out.

Yes that was bad English and typing.

She let the lady who claimed her daughter had become mentally damaged by the vaccine get her to say that and get attacked by the press. (I happen to believe that mom by the way) and there were a few other areas where she said some things that she should likely have waited before she jumped to conclusions. By the way I absolutely love Bachmann and think she is a great patriot. I am just saying politically she goofed enough times to hurt her traction.

37 posted on 11/11/2011 8:22:38 AM PST by pwatson
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To: Tenacious 1

I will put it in another way: the conversation gets extremely wicked. Ooops, I voiced my opinion, I expect a tar and feather by the Conservative Truth Squad.


38 posted on 11/11/2011 8:23:01 AM PST by seoul62
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To: pwatson

Welcome to primary season at Free Republic. You act as though you haven’t been through one.

Anywho, from the way I’ve seen it, what you describe are really one or two loudmouths for each of the major candidates.. most folks here aren’t that way.

Personally, I like them all except Romney and Paul. (not counting Huntsman and Johnson, they are static). Heck, even the Rent is Too Damn High guy would be an improvement over Obama.


39 posted on 11/11/2011 8:23:07 AM PST by mnehring
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To: pwatson
Reagan was a damned liberal.

Goldwater was a socialist.

40 posted on 11/11/2011 8:23:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (Eat your neighbors, because no Federal help is coming.)
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To: pwatson
You bring up two controversial subjects in your post, politics and religion, then wonder why there's discord? Come on, now.....that's been the case for ages. I know you're not that naive.

Imagine what the meetings of the 1st and 2nd Continental Congress must have been like.

41 posted on 11/11/2011 8:24:16 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: pwatson

I agree. A little more civility is in order. The name calling often make us look like a bunch of immature 3rd graders on the playground.


42 posted on 11/11/2011 8:24:18 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Diogenesis
You feel that RINOs are some of your “own”?
Smells like Mitt.

No I like Cain best right now among the group. Mitt is a RINO and liberal east coast country club republican.

43 posted on 11/11/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by pwatson
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To: pwatson
I also hate loosing to Liberals

I hate supporting Rinos who promise one thing, then when the time comes to take a stand, they stab us in the back and side with the liberals.

44 posted on 11/11/2011 8:25:18 AM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Simple rule of thumb for Freepers should be. Don’t just spend your time trash talking the other candidates, make a case FOR your candidate. If you throw punches around, people are going to punch back.

Agree 100%. I actually told two ladies the same thing on FR a little over a month ago - that they should focus on saying why their preferred candidate was the prudent choice, focus on his policies and how they would help the nation, and concentrate on showing his pertinent attributes when it comes to the presidency.

I also told them to stop attacking other candidates because doing so was only alienating FReepers. One of those ladies even referred to another FReeper's support of another candidate as that of a love struck teenage girl, while in many of the threads early last month they plain insulted several FReepers.

I told those two ladies they were making a mistake, that there would be a backlash (you cannot get support from people by alluding that they are foolish for not supporting your candidate), and at one point I wrote a long post wondering aloud if they REALLY supported their candidate since the tactics they were using were actually harming Perr - I mean, their candidate - on FR.

They did not listen.

A month later and only Romney is disliked more by a large part of FR than their candidate. I wish they had listened, but in their myopia they turned a section of the forum against their prefered candidate (who at one time was polling at the top but has since then plummeted). Moral of the story? What you said -- throw enough darts around and sooner or later people will start throwing them back. Although, to be honest, I believe that one of those two ladies (who has not posted in quite some time - don't know what happened to her) was an anti-Per --I mean, an anti-candidate X -- plant, because the insulting way she was engaging other FReepers was just stupid! Absolutely insane. To the extent that in one of the posts to her I copied Shield (who is a supporter of the candidate that has stuck to logic and common sense advocacy rather than questioning the intellence of others). I am almost certain that particular lady was a plant because she simply was not makng sense. As for the other lady - she seems genuinely in love withthe candidate, and probably just got a little carried away from the beginning. She still posts a lot about him, but she doesn't say anything crazy apart from maybe being a tad bit too optimistic about his chances. However, a different posting style one month ago and that candidates perception might be different on FR. My 2 cents

45 posted on 11/11/2011 8:25:42 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: pwatson
Primary time is a competition. In America today, nobody is supposed to compete, and when you play the game, there are no losers and nobody gets the booby prize. You mean like that?
46 posted on 11/11/2011 8:26:02 AM PST by dforest
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To: pwatson

I would hope most conservatives, and otherwise, right leaning folks, could think for themselve. If someone trashing a candidate (especially over nonsensical issues) would sway someone then that person is lost to begin with.
not to mention you start to see a pattern with certain poster and either ignore them or recognise they are full of crap.
Not to mention probably half the idiots who repeat basically the same crapola are probably coming from plants and people with whatever whacky agenda other than forwarding conservative ideas or electing conservatives.
It all goes back to ‘thinking for yourself’ Which is what serperates us all from the big government marxist/fascististic group think morons on the hard left.


47 posted on 11/11/2011 8:26:18 AM PST by Leep
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To: pwatson
She let the lady who claimed her daughter had become mentally damaged by the vaccine get her to say that and get attacked by the press.

Holy disfunctional sentence structure, Batman!!!!

48 posted on 11/11/2011 8:26:35 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals vote like clowns walking thru a minefield, oblivious to the consequences.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I don’t know about you, but I prefer to eat my FReepers with Chianti. :-)


49 posted on 11/11/2011 8:27:17 AM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: MestaMachine

Would pointing out that you spelled THEIR wrong in your headline be considered mean?

No that would be pointing out what a dumb ass mistake I made!


50 posted on 11/11/2011 8:27:30 AM PST by pwatson
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